J Alan Paul: How are they getting that kind of quality out of the ISO 8000 images? I swear my A7ii with the old and new firmware doesn't look that good at ISO 1000. I've pushed a few files up to 3200 and 4000, but all I get are smeared details and ugly noise patterns.
I'm shooting in raw, processing in Lightroom CC2015 and Photoshop CC2015.
Am I missing something?
My D600's files hold up much better at 6400 than my A7ii does at 3200. I love this camera but I've learned that I can't shoot it that high. I'm trying to justify leaving nikon for Sony, but I consistently get better images out of my Nikon. It's a bummer because of how much I enjoy having the Sony with me at all times and not my bulky Nikons.
It doesn't make sense to see those night city images at an ISO that high looking that detailed. Is there something wrong with my camera?
I'm using an la-ea4 with a Minolta 24-50, 28-135, and 70-210. Also have adapted a few of my Nikon lenses to it as well, including my 85 1.8, and Tokina 16-28 2.8.
Mr. J Alan Paul,
Please post your results here when you are done, thanks.
Thuravi Kumaaran: OMG! Nowadays buyers are so intelligent that they will not relay on this type of pull & push business.
Nikon D3300 with 18-55mm Lens (Black) - You Pay: $446.95http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1023353-REG/nikon_1532_d3300_dslr_camera_with.html
Sony a6000 with 16-50mm Lens (Black) - You Pay: $628.00http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1029860-REG/sony_ilce6000l_b_alpha_a6000_mirrorless_digital.html
Nikon D5500 with 18-55mm Lens (Black) - You Pay: $796.95http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?N=11111431&InitialSearch=yes&sts=pi
“So about that grand sweeping statement regarding the D5500 being what I personally consider to be the best indoor sports camera for under $1000” – http ://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-d5500/nikon-d5500-field-test-part-ii.htm
Congratulations, DPR for closing the eyes on a noon sunny day and says it is midnight and too dark / closing the eyes and drinking the milk like a cat.
Slowly this site becomes a Sony fan association & promotor?
@ThuraviDoesn't seem a sensible thing to do when you've got food. Another cat could come and steal it. Cats aren't dumb. I'm sticking with my answer. Keeps the slop out of their eyes.
Zvonimir Tosic: I haven't seen a mirrorless camera with a decent size battery. They are all tiny and pathetic; camera close the size of DSLR, but twice smaller battery size. I think that is why DSLR is still a workhorse of imaging industry — the mirror must go up and down, LCD must work, shutter, metering, etc, and manufacturers generally put in a decent size battery.
In a mirrorless design, with EVFs that draw so much energy, why manufacturers do not follow the same logic and install a big battery? Ah, yes — the (A) overall design had to be changed a bit, and a mirrorless would become bigger than DSLR. But to lie about "smaller size of mirrorless solutions", they (B) cripple battery department, (C) redesign lenses to draw less energy, which means, must be made from light & inferior materials too, and (D) avoid tele-centricity.
A, B, C and D is where corners are cut and users cheated. Time for mirrorless game stop being one lie after another. Or, more bigger batteries, less big lies.
@NoMirror99I was just asking a question. What's your point?
I think he's saying he likes the D5500 and they should include it in this list because BH sells it for under $800.
Also, he mentions that cats drink milk with their eyes closed, presumably to keep the milk from splashing in their eyes.
Do they offer similar shooting time to Nikon DSLRs?
I don't see the Befree One on the site, just the Befree. It looks like the BefreeOne is slighlty smaller than the Befree: about 6cm smaller folded, about 14 cm shorter height.
G1Houston: Is "Income" the same as profit? Technically Profit = income - expenditure.
MacroBokeh: This is the Lamborghini of camera. I know regardless of what brand any car can get you to from point A to point B but this is Lamborghini. Got that? it's L-a-m-b-o
More like the DeLorean
marcio_napoli: I already know I will get tons of don't feed the troll replies. I can't help it, my fingers are already typing it.
Yes, this Leica has a bit lower performance here and there compared to Sony sensors. Whatever. I really mean it, whatever
At this level of IQ, it's already possible to produce world class images. To be honest, it'd be possible to produce world class images with cameras 10 years older than this one.
So I call this obssession with comparing sensor A vs B a bit an@l. All of then are good enough.
The 10k pricetag is not because of a sensor. It's because of Leica lenses, and the Leica experience.
To experience something that's truly unique is something very underated in a gear forum, but I think it should be the opposite
You're paying for a different experience, not for a "better" sensor.
Besides, you guys get so defensive about IQ. You should try digital medium format someday.
After you try it, you'll see how pointless is defending FF sensors IQ of any brand, anyway.
I would buy into your premise if the lens was astounding. But I don't see it, at least not in this gallery.
BeaverTerror: Actually, a RR, Jaguar, etc really are better cars than run of the mill Ford family sedans. Better engine performance, more convenience technologies, better finishes, etc. These are quantifiable differences which justify the price. Now, above a certain price, you are getting diminishing returns. Is a 120k luxury sports car really four times better than a 30k Ford Mustang? Maybe not; nevertheless, you're getting real improvement in EVERY area, on top of the brand prestige.
Meanwhile in camera land, the Leica sensor is clearly INFERIOR to its much cheaper competitors. That's a fundamental difference from the car analogy and a hard pill to swallow.
Well said. Maybe a better analogy would be a DeLorean.
Frank C.: definitely worth 10 grand..... to a millionaire that is
Millionaires get a bum rap on this forum.
sunilkumar: stock market, analysts expectations, investors and sheer emotion of market makes corporation to take decisions which may not be good for anyone
Maybe, but not here. Toshiba can't compete, so better to sell its assets to someone who can.
steelhead3: The EU will step in and declare Sony a monopoly, slap a tax on their cameras after fining them because VW is looking into sensor production.
Fines have become a significant source of revenue for governments around the world, but the EU seems to be the leader in fining other countries companies.
Heck, they even fined Russia for banning gay rights parades.
NoMirror99: Pentax, Nikon, and Canon could just rip the mirror out, keep the same body and distance from the sensor, add an EVF. Same lenses work, no more mircro adjustments for lenses, fewer moving parts, less vibration Etc. And offer these new models alongside the standard. May the better camera win.
And pdaf on an slr still beats cdaf or on-sensor (ie small) pdaf even with properly designed lenses.
dynaxx: My impression, right or wrong, is that Sony's constant push for improvement and innovation is not driven by the competing camera sensor manufacturers.
It could be the continuation of the pioneering Minolta corporate culture or just a need to make better cameras to catch up with the big two in sales.
Sony has been in the sensor business way before the aquisition of minolta. They were a major player back in the ccd days as well.
And they have always had a culture of innovation.
Profitability is another story.
Debankur Mukherjee: Sony in coming years will become a major player in the area.............
At 40% market share, I'd say they are a major player. They are, of course, the biggest.
nikon power: "a single block of milled aluminum."Does that mean there's no screw on the camera? If so then I wish I win the lottery to get it.As I recall, many years ago, my Sony F707 lost a tiny screw at the bottom of the long lens. I still don't how it got loose and lost. When I called Sony, the price was $7 for the screw plus shipping. I resorted to using scotch tape to save the money.
$7,450 buys alot of screws, even at $7 a pop plus shipping.
Nuno Souto: Memo to CaNikon:WAKE UP!!!
They woke up, saw this, and went back to sleep.
Dyun27: Holy crap! Image #2 and #3 scare me! It looks like it's the size of a small briefcase! The person in the photos must be about 3 feet tall. In comparison, the D750 just barely weighs less at 840g.
Leica: 147 x 104 x 39mm (5.8 x 4.1 x 1.5 in.) and weighs 847g (1.9 lbs) with battery and memory card
D750: 140.5 x 113 x 78 mm/5.6 x 4.5 x 3.1 in and weighs 840 g/1 lb 13.7 oz with battery and memory card
I think they need to re-shoot those modeling pictures with an average-sized human.
Good catch! The photo makes it look as big as a 645.
Dpreview mention something about that in the article. Or sticky this comment.
expressivecanvas: As usual... another new lens and no Sony e-mount. Sigma already said they were interested in the Sony e/fe market and they already manufacture a few APS-C e-mount lenses. It would be really nice to see some full frame Sigma lenses in e-mount so this is another disappointment.
I agree. How hard could it be? They don't need to change the optics at all, since the sony's flange focal distance is shorter than nikon and canon. They make art lenses for the nex series, whose mount is an identical.