Just as expected when announced: too expensive, too heavy, lacks multi aspect ratio sensor, lacks phase detect autofocus, very expensive f2.8 lenses. There are just too many much more exciting products right now (NEX-6, new cheap full frame cams, rx1...) GH3 has no buzz factor at all - it should have had at least a global shutter, instead you get a metal body as the "biggest" news after 2 years of development? And now Panasonic must get creative to sell this thing...
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Posted on Feb 16, 2013 at 02:42:26 UTC
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This is simply put a horrible looking mutant design. It's not even funny. The viewfinder housing looks like a screwed-on multipurpose accessory that could fall off anytime. Huge step back from V1, not even mentioning Nex 6/7. 99.9% of DPreview forum members could do better...
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Posted on Oct 26, 2012 at 02:32:24 UTC
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They got right so many things the first time: AF speed, sensor/camera size, build quality, 10 FPS with AF, colors, metering, silent shutter, very little color noise, etc. Unfortunately Nikon representatives need to do some "talk-up" since they lack in many areas: lens choice, lens speed/bokeh, ergonomics (especially V1), hot shoe, 24p, known firmware bugs etc. Nikon does not do this explaining and talk up very often but they definitely feel the heat and pressure. We will have to see if this talk will be followed by rapid actions. At this point this system is just a great start.
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Posted on Feb 2, 2012 at 00:33:04 UTC
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I wish they had increased the bit rate on 720/60p rather than this new HBR mode. HBR has similar jelly effect as their 24p mode - which is quite notable to say the least. 720/60p has practically no such effect, but has mild compression artifects which is much more preferrable. Obviously the sensor can't do 1080/60p.
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Posted on Dec 8, 2011 at 11:39:15 UTC
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Flash on the handgrip?! That is impossible and will no doubt cause a lot of issues. I still remember the Nikon 5000 compact (from 2001) causing end-less issues/complaints with placing the flash between the grip and lens. But this Ricoh is 200% worse. There must be total chaos at Ricoh to let something like this slip through.
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Posted on Nov 15, 2011 at 20:15:26 UTC
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I agree with most of the comments. CMOS sensor with 24p in 2012? And do this with a new digic 5? 24p is not for home use at all. This is casting a long dark shadow on all the cameras to be announced by Canon for the next 2 years. This thing was outdated before the design process started at Canon.
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Posted on Sep 15, 2011 at 21:42:57 UTC
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Yeah, yeah, this is old news, EVERYBODY knows about the 1" mirrorless Nikon system to be announced and even photos of the lens mount have been circulated by Nikon for the last few months and this vehement denial from Nikon's end is just a page taken from Apple's book. And now even DPR is playing the game...
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Posted on Sep 10, 2011 at 19:10:39 UTC
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eadrian75: Panasonic is not sure whether to build products for videographers or photogs. Lenses such as these with motorized zoom and no rotating focus ring are not for "X", pro, enthusiast photographers.
I think you are quite ignorant of the direction this industry is going. For future proof lenses "hybrid" is a must specification. Panasonic will release HYBRID lenses that have traditional "pro" controlls, just go and check specs for the 12-35-200 twins due early 2012. the 14-42 lacks manual rings to achieve a compact size and not because it is a hybrid lens.
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Posted on Aug 27, 2011 at 20:22:50 UTC
It is pretty clear what is going on here. the rear element moves further away from the sensor whenthe lens is turned on so the optics can be more simple, better quality and smaller! From the polarizing comments from big-hand big camera guys you can already see how this will be a trend setting, must have lens for size conscious MFT owners - especially with compact GF cameras. Quality is promised to be better than 14-45 is good news as well. I would like to see this design approach sweep through all their lenses.
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Posted on Aug 27, 2011 at 20:00:40 UTC
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Why would anybody want this versus an XZ1 or s95 is beyond me. This "thing" does not have any market potential at all. To start with, the lenses are not collapsible so they are protruding too much which makes this thing the same size as MFT. Lens mount is too big simply, photos will be too noisy, lens options too limited, the whole thing is way overpriced. I just can't see one single advantage over anything that we have currently already on the market.
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Posted on Jun 24, 2011 at 01:59:26 UTC
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Just as expected when announced:
too expensive, too heavy, lacks multi aspect ratio sensor, lacks phase detect autofocus, very expensive f2.8 lenses.
There are just too many much more exciting products right now (NEX-6, new cheap full frame cams, rx1...)
GH3 has no buzz factor at all - it should have had at least a global shutter, instead you get a metal body as the "biggest" news after 2 years of development?
And now Panasonic must get creative to sell this thing...
for image quality: nikon d800
for specs: rx100
for portabilty: rx100
overall best compromise: nex-6
Rachotilko: !@#$%, is this section an online herd mentality experiment or what ???
No, it is not a herd mentality. It is just that bad looking of a camera ...
This is simply put a horrible looking mutant design. It's not even funny. The viewfinder housing looks like a screwed-on multipurpose accessory that could fall off anytime. Huge step back from V1, not even mentioning Nex 6/7.
99.9% of DPreview forum members could do better...
I think they should have made the lens collapsable to save space.
I am not getting it... What is the point of releasing this camera without an evf? Size is the same.
They got right so many things the first time: AF speed, sensor/camera size, build quality, 10 FPS with AF, colors, metering, silent shutter, very little color noise, etc.
Unfortunately Nikon representatives need to do some "talk-up" since they lack in many areas: lens choice, lens speed/bokeh, ergonomics (especially V1), hot shoe, 24p, known firmware bugs etc. Nikon does not do this explaining and talk up very often but they definitely feel the heat and pressure.
We will have to see if this talk will be followed by rapid actions. At this point this system is just a great start.
I wish they had increased the bit rate on 720/60p rather than this new HBR mode. HBR has similar jelly effect as their 24p mode - which is quite notable to say the least. 720/60p has practically no such effect, but has mild compression artifects which is much more preferrable. Obviously the sensor can't do 1080/60p.
Flash on the handgrip?! That is impossible and will no doubt cause a lot of issues. I still remember the Nikon 5000 compact (from 2001) causing end-less issues/complaints with placing the flash between the grip and lens. But this Ricoh is 200% worse. There must be total chaos at Ricoh to let something like this slip through.
I agree with most of the comments. CMOS sensor with 24p in 2012? And do this with a new digic 5? 24p is not for home use at all. This is casting a long dark shadow on all the cameras to be announced by Canon for the next 2 years. This thing was outdated before the design process started at Canon.
Yeah, yeah, this is old news, EVERYBODY knows about the 1" mirrorless Nikon system to be announced and even photos of the lens mount have been circulated by Nikon for the last few months and this vehement denial from Nikon's end is just a page taken from Apple's book. And now even DPR is playing the game...
eadrian75: Panasonic is not sure whether to build products for videographers or photogs. Lenses such as these with motorized zoom and no rotating focus ring are not for "X", pro, enthusiast photographers.
I think you are quite ignorant of the direction this industry is going. For future proof lenses "hybrid" is a must specification. Panasonic will release HYBRID lenses that have traditional "pro" controlls, just go and check specs for the 12-35-200 twins due early 2012. the 14-42 lacks manual rings to achieve a compact size and not because it is a hybrid lens.
It is pretty clear what is going on here. the rear element moves further away from the sensor whenthe lens is turned on so the optics can be more simple, better quality and smaller! From the polarizing comments from big-hand big camera guys you can already see how this will be a trend setting, must have lens for size conscious MFT owners - especially with compact GF cameras. Quality is promised to be better than 14-45 is good news as well. I would like to see this design approach sweep through all their lenses.
Why would anybody want this versus an XZ1 or s95 is beyond me. This "thing" does not have any market potential at all. To start with, the lenses are not collapsible so they are protruding too much which makes this thing the same size as MFT. Lens mount is too big simply, photos will be too noisy, lens options too limited, the whole thing is way overpriced. I just can't see one single advantage over anything that we have currently already on the market.