mosc: Ok, I get that this thing is weather proofed, has modern high ISO performance, as good a shutter as you're going to get, and an AF system that's best in class for tracking motion. All that said, it's an $1,800 APS-C camera! Who has that kind of budget and can't afford a FF camera that for not much more money can match most of the 7Dm2's features with about double the sensor area? The Sony A99 is only 10% more money.
I get the "It's pro" stuff, I just don't get who is pro AND APS-C. If you're pro, don't you have enough glass where a few hundred dollars difference in body doesn't mean that much? If so, what are you doing using expensive glass with a smaller sensor? I don't get it.
Then again, if I'm a canon EF glass aficionado already and I really don't want a non-weatherproofed body or one that doesn't naively take EF glass, what choice do I have? I think that's all that this needed. A tougher 70D indeed but seems like needless expense if that was the only goal.
None so blind as those who just don't want to see, as doing so would undercut their replies.
aekn: These Canon reviews with real world comparisons are great validation for those with "aging" technology like that of the Nikon D7000.
I guess investing in a new D7000 for $525 right now isn't such a bad move, from an image quality standpoint.
"from an image quality standpoint" especially if you want to photograph trees in the shade. Otherwise, not so much really.
AngryCorgi: As usual, Canon puts out another camera that get's spanked by a 4-year-old Nikon in the IQ department. When will they think about either (a) purchasing Sony's sensors or (b) partnering with Sony in some way to improve their sensors to be competitive with what Sony has been producing for more than half a decade??
Oh, did Sony introduce dual pixel AF sensors now? And why would Canon want to lower their high ISO IQ to the Sony sensor's, on an action / sports camera that is going to be photographing high-ISO action, not trees, flowers and ducks?
RyanBoston: So the 70D is in a lower class and still scored higher and got a gold award. I guess that's great news for 70D owners who don't need the insane focus system for half the price. Great job on the review! I'm sure it was tough to get it out as early as you guys did.
Tell us about Pentax focus tracking (cough cough). Hello 1998.
CameraLabTester: I have all sympathy for DPR reviewers.
They have to dig deep and wrack their brains to find compelling reasons to prop up the model they are reviewing up on a pedestal.
This 7D Mark2 is so last year.
No, sorry... last two years.
Oops! Three years!
He didn't miss those parts, he got more than excited over them as proof of Sony's superiority I think.
TrollFree: is this going to be any good for landscapes and seascapes?
Always entertaining to see the Sony fanboys come out to exercise what's left of their wits.
Never stick your tongue out between your teeth when riding a bull!
bartender1981: some jpg....not so good
There are many many shots on that page. Which do you consider 'not so good'?
Giclee1: This is tough! First camera purchase in a looong time. 7DII or 70d? Coming from an incredibly awesome 1dsMkII (an antique according to some on this forum), those two cameras would be a nice change in weight. Go full frame or APS? I would like to hear if anyone has shot both, what they feel like.
My absolute must haves (coming from the 1ds) 1) Dead on AF; 2) excellent RAW images; 3) Fast AF; 4) excellent metering.
I am not a pixel peeper, I shoot, crop, color correct, and publish, I don't dick around with looking for differences in shadow detail, otherwise I wouldn't be able to process almost 18,000 images last year...Thanks!
The pros spend a lot less time worrying about DxO numbers than do the gear fiddlers.
fakuryu: Camera Store TV already did a review. Excellent AF but when it came to IQ, it has horrible DR and they found the video too soft. Compared to even the entry level Nikon D3300, they found that the entry level camera has better IQ overall.
Excellent camera overall but if DR is important to your work, better look for something else.
"Horrible DR"... Is that their poor choice of words or yours?
Richard Butler: We have only updated two of the roundups so far - which is why this article is still dated 2013 and doesn't represent the latest cameras.
It will be updated in the coming weeks.
Also 7D2's weather proofing is massively upgraded throughout; the AF equals or beats Canon's best in any camera they sell now; dual Digic 6 image processors exceed the processing power of any of their other cameras; shutter upgraded to estimated life of 200,000 cycles; and the burst and buffer specs leave the others behind.
How do you include cameras in a 'ranking' when they've not been completely tested yet?
Yes indeed - turning from a baby to a boy.
Thanks Joel. It's very common to see these guys praying before an event. Billy Robinson is one of the oldest guys still riding bulls at the top level, 34 years old.
Imagine, two people felt like this photo was only worth 1/2 star and 1 star. Nobody can tell me that they don't play games to try and win these challenges. Even if this isn't someone's favorite photo, such low marks are completely inappropriate.
The clown face and 'ballons' on the ride itself really set off the kids' faces. Congrats to the winner.
Tom Caldwell: Yes that is a good shot, you should be proud of that one.Tom
Never noticed your comment before today. Thanks Tom.
Luuger: What was needed for the 7D mII:- 4K Video- Full frame- Wifi- Flexible screen- Touch screen- Resolution increase- Great AF- Better quality Sensor
What Canon brought was able to deliver:- Great AF
IMHO the responsible product developer should be fired immediately unless he had orders from above. Canon is not only harming its own brand, but the category of DSLR as itself.
May I repeat: full frame?Some of the rest of your list is also worth a giggle.
chlamchowder: I'm a Nikon user, and this camera looks awesome, even for the rather high price. It has everything a daylight action shooter/birder could ask for - an excellent AF system, a high burst rate without having to crop, and a deep buffer. This thing would be awesome for shooting soccer/football, or pretty much any outdoor sport where a large field is involved. I wish it had a Nikon mount.
And for those of you complaining that it doesn't have FF ISO performance - the best FF for action you can get at that price is the D610. It doesn't shoot at 10 fps, and doesn't have the 7D II's pixel density for telephoto reach.
Hey! You are SUPPOSED to be complaining that it's not enough and the sensor is old! What is WRONG with you!
whyamihere: Dear Canon,
Cute camera. If this were Photokina 2012, I'm sure everyone would have been excited. Today, it's just the Canon 70D, Spray & Pray Edition.
I'm sure you'll sell tons, anyway, because: Canon.
because: Nikon has nothing to compare to it.
InTheMist: This Nikon shooter is jealous.
How many times did I read that 'Nikon is just waiting for Canon to bring out the 7D II before they introduce their D400'? Many times. Oh well, buy what works for you and if the D400 or the 7D or 7D II or anything else does work, it doesn't matter what other camera makers or users have.