Joe Ogiba: Wow, it looks like the old world DSLR still shooters are getting all bent out of shape of the NX1. It is now 2015 and 4K video is the future but it looks like DPR is filled with PHOTOGRAPHY ONLY fanboys that hate were the world is going to.
I bet the demographics of owners of the Nikon Df is about the same as viewers of Faux News, 60+ white males that want to live in the past.
Wait. Why should "old world" still shooters get bent out of shape about 4K when most of them don't care about video in the first place?
PenPen: I have a question for camera experts like you. I currently have an old Canon 550D since a few years and want to buy a new camera, a bit more pro. I was expecting a lot from 7d Mark II but was disapointed, as it's not a camera for me. I'm more interested in landscapes and street photography than wildlife or sport. And I'm not interested in video or be able to shoot 15 images per second.And so now I'm thinking of leaving Canon and I'm hesitating between Samsung NX1 and Nikon D750. The NX1 seems more interesting in terms of modern features, but in terms of image quality, is it equivalent to D750? Can a very good APS-C mirrorless camera compete with a full frame camera in terms of image quality?Thanks
I swear I too can see the difference between my full fame and crop sensor cameras and its not just the depth of field. It actually took me a while to get it but after a few years of using full frame your mind learns to spot the difference. This discussion reminds me of debates of fine wine aficionados on mid priced and expensive wine.
vesa1tahti: A very good camera, but: We have now the Nikon D7200, there's no APS-C-camera that could beat this Nikon. BTW: I've 10 pieces of (almost) professional DX- lenses, so the D7200 was 'a must' for me, after the D7000.
You actually have a good point. For many pros doing big shoots on a tough deadline, after service support is extremely crucial.
Folsomite: First off, I am so lost at all the ranting. Folks, who is your audience that you must have 4k? I get the idea to be future proof but considering that most people don't have either the TV or a method to view content, shouldn't a camera like this be consider an investment. And most NLEs and computers are just getting up to spend to editing 4k content. You can probably count quality 4k monitors on both hands. Also, I don't understand why people are complaining about the cost. This is meant for professionals with the business to justify. Buy a camera that fits your needs. If you are selling your content for $200 and you produce only 1 a week, then maybe you are striving too hard for quality. For all the Sony fans, go enjoy your camera. What benefit do you have giving feedback to a camera you don't have and aren't interested. Do you think calling people stupid is going to make your purchase any better? You really can't compare a camera that is not out to something off the self.
Big studios and established businesses, which is probably the target market for Canon, won't bat an eyelash when buying these C cameras.
maxnimo: Would this camera be good enough to film a big-budget Hollywood blockbuster?Just curious.
Canon C cameras are different tools from RED cameras. RED are fantastic narrative cameras but you will be hard-pressed to use one in run and gun situations.
Under The Sun: As a person who used Canon's cinema cameras like the C100 and C300 and the F7 extensively I subjectively think Canon has some advantages in the look of its footage like the skin tones but the C300 Mark II with is stratosphere level price will surely sway a lot of budget videographers to the Sony F7. I don't need 4K right now but I for one will definitely buy this camera when Canon drops its price a few years down the line.
My bad I meant FS7. Thanks for the correction.
As a person who used Canon's cinema cameras like the C100 and C300 and the F7 extensively I subjectively think Canon has some advantages in the look of its footage like the skin tones but the C300 Mark II with is stratosphere level price will surely sway a lot of budget videographers to the Sony F7. I don't need 4K right now but I for one will definitely buy this camera when Canon drops its price a few years down the line.
I like the concept but this thing needs at least an APS-C sensor and a lower price tag. Though I'm curious what the footage looks like.
HSway: Samples tell us 24 Art bokeh can be very jittery. I don’t say it lightly, I am not any of the bokeh fanatics or a Sigma basher and I am very happy with 50 Art and 60 Art in this particular respect. The point is that while this is absolutely OK with some, say, (14-) 24/4 lens the purpose of f1.4 lens fills also different roles where this is a consideration. I wish they take it into account with such fast lenses including UWAs and avoid rendition that really can be distracting and limiting for certain uses. (As distanced from the character; most people will agree on the difference - my Touit 32 can have unpleasant jittery bokeh @f1.8, it changes to character I love @f2.2, I could go on). No it is not a disaster but it makes the potential of the lens less versatile.
Not that the standards are not high but thank you for the most interesting article.
Normally I'm nick picker myself but I second Rishi's statement. I have bought and desperately wanted to love my Canon 24L but the bohek characteristics bothered me a lot so I returned it. However the Sigma sample looks much better. Very promising IMHO.
The more I read about Sigma, the more I really like this company.
I'm mainly a Canon shooter but I hope fuji's xline of lenes becomes wildly successful. It is always good to have players who push forward aggressively like Fuji and Sony.
larrytusaz: No thank you. I have an NEX-6 that would just smoke this thing (and via Wi-Fi can still share quickly), and if I needed something really small I could always get an RX100. These sorts of cameras remind me of the junky Polaroid SX-70 candy cameras of yesteryear, I didn't care for those either.
In the beginning I was with Larry with his "real photographers use real cameras" argument but Fotofantom convinced me otherwise.
Michael Ma: Apple users think that there are no benefits of 4K video because everyone still uses 1080p monitors. This in a nutshell is the mentality of die hard Apple users today. They can see things like how 4K looks significantly better on their 1080p monitors, but they try to erase from their minds what they've seen, and never research things like why 4K video significantly looks better on 1080p monitors.
"Apple users think that there are no benefits of 4K video because everyone still uses 1080p monitors." Sweeping generalisation, logical fallacy spotting a mile away. If you want to get a rise out of Apple users, I suggest you try harder.
marc petzold: Virtually, besides the X-M1 vs X-A1, the only difference is, that the A1 is way cheaper, but build into the same package (body) and uses a ordinary Bayer Sensor, not X-Trans...but that comes in handy especially when shooting landscapes and foliage, the X-Trans Sensors don't look too good into that way for my eyes, apart that, they're very fine, indeed.
But i must say that i would mention, the X-A1 and X-M1, both do have also a plasticky feeling like the A3000, and being far away from for instance a X-E1(2) or X100-alike Body, which are made out of alu magalloy, and not plastic.
I agree, I bought my daughter an xa1 as her first serious camera and surprised at its low light and overall image quality. Great bang for the buck and a very good camera for what you pay for.
vscd: Haha, you see the full advantage of mirrorless with a lense 3 times bigger than the body. An the vertical grip compensates this in even more size. Yeah. ;)
As you said., trade offs. I shoot mainly with my 1dx and a 5dm3 as my second body for paid gigs. Even with the relatively tiny 85mm 1.8 both of my canon bodies are still huge and heavy. My Xt1 with 56mm 1.2 is a nice middle ground as it can fit into my small camera bag and tote around anywhere. Not everybody is looking for a camera that will fit in your pocket, many photogs are fine with a small tote bag.
Also is there a mobile phone with an APS-C sensor in the market? Perhaps that Panasonic phone with a m43 sensor. Regardless even at 1.8 the look vs a larger sensor is simply not the same.
Ah you can't escape the laws of physics indeed. Still, the xt1 with its biggest lens is still a tad smaller compared its ff competitors. You want ridiculous? Look at those Sony a7 series users adapting all sorts of huge ff lenses on them.
dgrogers: Videos are long and boring and there are no sample images from this shoot.
I guess you can't please everyone. I found the video very interesting and engaging.
No 2 Boss of Sony: What does the "t" in X-t1 standfor?
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1000 plus comments. For an "inferior" camera, it sure has quite a passionate following.