cgarrard: Might be nice to see a few budget primes for this lineup too, get people into the system with less outlay.
An aggressive announcement regardless, and showing strength for the FE system.
I agree. They are sorely missing an affordable (I.E. $100-$300) 50mm prime.
Joerg V: These images have been made under less than optimal conditions with a less than optimal camera for a wide angle lens and with no lens profile correction going on. A 24mm lens will have CA in the corners. Some of this CA will be LCA, some will be TCA (that can be corrected). But still, thanks to DPR for these shots!Let's wait for images taken on a D810 with a proper lens profile.
@PhotoKhan exactly. Even under less than ideal conditions this lens is delivering excellent results. Imagine what it will do on a tripod, with good lighting, and mounted to a camera like a D810 or Canon 5DS/5DS R, I'm betting this is going to blow every other 24mm prime out of the water except maybe for some Ziess offerings that are the price of a pretty good used car.
Wait, so is this just an iteration of the same thing they were talking about in 2010? So as their cameras fell farther and farther behind in the sensor department over the last 5 years, this technology demonstration prototype that will probably never make it into a production imaging device, is what they have been wasting there time on? Kind of explains why you have scroll so far down in the rankings to find a Canon sensor on DXO.
nathantw: If they made a 6 cm x 6 cm sensor and offer it to medium format companies I'd jump for joy!
Why stop there? I'm waiting for an 8X10 large format sensor! but dont' worry, I'm not holding my breath lol.
Yxa: Where is the D900?
The next camera in the D8xx series will be called the D820. That's just how Nikon is naming them now. It has nothing to do with how much of an update it was, though the D810 is actually quite a significant upgrade to the D800 once you add up all the little, and not so little such as better AF, things the D810 does over the D800.
Bramdl: I've read that buying off-brand lenses is a risk as there is no guarantee they'll keep working on future bodies. Any thoughts about this?
1 to 2 years away and it will be called the D820 under Nikon's new naming scheme. The D810 hasn't even been out a year yet lol.
Conrad567: I remember when having a Sigma in my bag was humiliating, now I wish I had more of them. Trying to get the money together for a 50mm art and now they do this to me?
Personally prime wise I'd rather have a 100mm or 105mm ART lens than a 135mm or the 85mm others are asking for since it would go with he 24mm and the 50mm better but that's just me.
nowo1978: Here's hoping Sigma will produce a PK mount version of this lens.
It would make a lot of sense for Sigma to try too swoop in and offer high quality FF lenses for the upcoming Pentax FF at a more affordable price. There are going to be a lot of buyers wanting new FF lenses to go with their new Pentax FF camera and if sigma can get their art lenses out in the Pentax mount quick enough they could get in on that action.
If the protocols change older third party lensess might not work with new bodies without a firmware update. But Sigma has a lens dock that lets you do that without having the send the lens in to them so they are actually the third party lens manufacture with the lowest risk as far as future compatibility goes.
Old Cameras: When are more pixels not welcome? Expensive cameras once had 5MP and people tried to say that was all you needed. BS. This is tremendous and the ability to crop unmatched. If the DR is good enough, and forget video on such a camera - who cares - the possibilities are enormous. Btw, I own Nikon equipment. I hope they come out with a 100MP sensor.
The dynamic range is going to be the same as the 5DIII and the actual resolution gain over the D810 is going to be small at best. Plus the noise is on the same level as the 7DII. More mps are great but overall the D810 sensor is better. Plus the new, higher megapixel Sony sensor for the A7RII and probably the D820 is right around the corner so canon is about to lose the small resolution advantage as well.
tocar: To each his own. Canon makes different cameras at different levels for photographers so I don't understand why people are negatively commenting on the 5DS/R! When Nikon came out with their high MP camera Canon users whined about not having one but now that Canon has introduced their own version people are complaining! I just don't understand!
Chuck Westfall himself in the video that was basically supposed be him bragging to DPR (one of if not the largest camera news and review sites) about the camera says it has the same dynamic range as the 5DIII and the same noise performance as the APS-C 7DII. If it was better he would have said so. It would be the head line feature right after the megapixels. But he didn't and even down played it a little and side stepped the question about the max ISO. Very telling if you ask me. He also said the sensor is completely designed and manufactured by Canon in a blog post or something. It's on Canon rumors I think. So it is undoubtedly the same tech that is in all Canon's sensors. Which means except for having a little more resolution the sensor will be behind the one in the D800 and all other modern FF sensors in every other way. The price and video specs have been officially announced by Canon.So while amusing, your comment is wholly without merit.
Well maybe if Canon had a sensor that could actually compete with the one in the D800 and charged a competitive price there would be far less complaints. But all they did was add 50mps to the same out dated sensor tech, neutered the video, and then charged a higher price for it. Not exactly the D800 killer Canon users were hoping for.
jayflp: For the love of pixels, please get some marketing / sales training! We all want Canon to succeed and sell gobs of cameras but it doesn't help when you tell us in a monotone:
-One new model is better than the other cuz one is blurry.-The older 5DIII has better low light performance, higher ISO, better and "more pleasant" video than the new cameras you are promoting.-The 5DS R is aimed at landscape shooters vs. the 5DS which is great for those shooting "architecture and herringbone suits."-Wedding photographers should buy this expensive 50MP camera but dial it down to sRAW so that they don't use all the megapixels.-"Canon feels" and "They tell us"... Don't you work for Canon? Show a united front.
Watch a Steve Jobs video, read a book about giving presentations, instill some excitement in your new products. Gush about the new / improved features, don't repeatedly tell us what it doesn't have & can't do. Tell us about the types of photographers who are going to be excited about 50MP.
He almost sounds like he knows he is letting down every one's hopes when he starts talking about the dynamic range and noise. I mean 50mps with the same high noise, low dynamic range sensor tech from 2008 in an over priced body with unnecessarily neutered video features isn't exactly what people were hoping for from Canon as far as a D810 competitor goes.
Josh152: Wow. When the D810 and A7R successors with the new high res Sony sensor come out this is going to look even more overpriced and silly than it already does lol.
Really? I hadn't heard that. Makes this even more sad for Canon if true. Oh well at least Canon is still trying.
prossi: I remember reading the rumors a couple of days ago but it's nowhere definite I can find...is this 50 MP a sony sensor? If that's the case then _maybe_ otherwise fudgeabouit.
Nope. According to Chuck Westfall it has the same noise performance as the APS-C 7DII and the same dynamic range as the 5DIII so it's almost certain it's a Canon sensor.
armandino: for the "why all these megapixels useless race" people:8K TVs and monitors are around the corner. My 18-21MP cameras struggle already with my 4K TV as soon as I apply a bit of a crop to my images. 5K monitors are out there and they match 18PM on the long side.
mean while in the real world most people and TV stations using "HD" are still only using 720p. 1080p hasn't even taken over yet let alone 4K.
It wont be 5 years lol. More like two max.
munro harrap: Well, what exactly is going on here. THe 5D MkIII is as good because this will not be released until june and you might want one in the meantime? Unless you want BIG, there is no advantage, DR same, noise worse, hmmm. Less to go for in video than a 5D MkII .
Ok guys, listen up.
When I buy ANY camera it is to be able to take ANY picture WELL! My D800 does this. The noise is no worse than a D3 downsampled to 12MP (with MUCH more detail)I can use APS-C mode to get as good as 1D MkIV frame rates (YES!!with better IQ)
It does everything.
The IQ is NOT as good as certain other machines, agreed, but they cannot do everything well (Canon 1Ds MkII, Sony A7R etc).
Nikon do not have this three or four tier system in which DR and resolution, and the buffer, are deliberately crippled to get you to buy a 1Dx (or in their case, D4s)
One camera should be all anyone needs, and it should last a lifetime. If you buy another, it should be because it does everything as well, but you just like it!
If you think these cameras look bad now just wait a year or two until the D820 and/or A7R with similar resolution but much better noise performance, dynamic range and video features come out for less money. Sure Canon's got the pixel count but in every other way their sensor is still way behind every other sensor manufacture. It's kind of sad. So close to being the best but so far away as well.
Wow. When the D810 and A7R successors with the new high res Sony sensor come out this is going to look even more overpriced and silly than it already does lol.