Great now all Nikon needs is the ability to set AF fine tune values for at least 3 different zoom settings and at least 3 different distances for each zoom setting for the same lens.
Jozef M: What is a 'kibosh'? If you write for an international public, dpreview, use general English, please.
Why? In less time than your absolutely silly post took to write you could have googled it and found out what it means. Same goes for any word. You might even manage to learn something new that way.
Josh152: I generally prefer 105mm and have been looking at getting the 105mm f/2.0 DC but this is really tempting me due the the VC, better coatings, and weather resistance.
Maybe lol. I'm also hoping Tamron will release one of theses SP f/1.8s in 20mm.
Yeah my real problem is the lens I really want, A modern f/2.0 or f/1.8 105mm with built in motor, stabilization, weather resistance, and modern coatings, doesn't' exist lol.
Serious Sam: Like many had pointed out the pricing/marketing people in Tamron is on drugs. I will stick with my Nikon 85mm 1.8G (cost me a little bit over us$400).
Well like I said it's a balance. It is heavier because it has a metal barrel instead of plastic like the Nikon. It would be even heavier with the same level of build quality and f/1.4. Going for f/1.8 is probably why the Tamron is able to have the metal construction and still have a reasonable weight not much more than Nikon f/1.4. Just look at how heavy the similarly built sigma 50mm f/1.4 ART is and that is a shorter focal length. The 85mm version will undoubtedly weigh even more.
Well the samples I've seen the 105 dc is more than sharp and contrasty enough for me. Plus I love the way it renders a scene. I have the 105 f/2.5 AI-S which I love. The 105 DC seems like it will be very similar IQ wise and I want something that's faster than the 105mm AI-S and has AF. The thing with 85mm is that it just feels too close to 50mm for me as part of a set of primes. It's more like a slightly longer standard than a telephoto. My tentative plan for primes is to have the 20mm f/1.8g, my 50mm f/1.8g though eventually I might replace it with he Tamron 45mm f/1.8 vc, the 105mm DC and the 180mm f/1.8D. A 135mm lens would be too close to the 180mm but too short to replace it.
Being factually correct is not being a fanboy. I don't even own a Tamron lens. People are confused by the price because Tamron has done something with their new SP f/1.8 primes that a lot of people haven't really understood yet judging by the comments about price.
Unlike Cannon, Nikon, and Sigma they have made high end, pro quality primes in the 35mm-85mm range that are f/1.8 instead of f/1.4. Presumably so they can include all the high end goodies like weather resistance, high end coatings such as fluorine, 9 aperture blades, metal construction, better MF, VC, good bokeh, ect without having lenses that are some combination of being huge, extremely expansive, and heavy as a boat anchor.
This lens and the others in the range are designed to be a better balance of features,size,performance and price than what other manufactures are offering in their high end/pro ranges. The price makes sense when you understand what this lens is trying to be.
Actually the Nikon does not have full weather resistance, only the rear gasket to protect the body. the Tamron has much better weather resistance and much better build quality over all. Plus it has the dock thingy to really dial in the AF, probably better coatings equivalent to Nikon's nano coating, electronic aperture control, and of course the VC which is useful for many situations beyond shooting below 1/100. Such as shooting from an unstable position or while moving or while shooting fast, when you're cold, when you're tired, ect. Basically anytime it's hard or impossible to use perfect technique VC will yield sharper results, even if you are at 1/100. It can also let you use a smaller aperture for DOF in low light situations than you could without it. If the optical quality is as good and the AF is on the same level or better than the other recent Tamron f/1.8 primes, I think the price is fair considering it will be a substantial upgrade over the Nikon in many key areas.
I have no interest in the sigma 85mm Art. It's a safe bet it will be bigger, way heavier, won't have any weather protection not even the rear gasket to protect the body that even the cheapest G series Nikon primes have, and it will lack stabilization.
Basically except for the modern coatings it won't have any of the things the are tempting me to the Tamron 85mm f/1.8 so I might as well just go with the 105mm DC get the focal length I prefer lol. My ideal short telephoto fast prime would be a modern 105mm f/2.0 (or f/1.8 if it didn't add significant weight or size) with modern goodies like a SWM, VR, weather resistance, Nano coating ect. If this Tamron lens was 105mm instead of 85mm I would get it over the 105mm DC without hesitation even if it was more expensive.
I generally prefer 105mm and have been looking at getting the 105mm f/2.0 DC but this is really tempting me due the the VC, better coatings, and weather resistance.
Kodachrome200: the nikon 85mm f1.8g is not just a good lens. it is a superlative lens. i struggle to imagine people will pay this much more for the tamron
The Tamron has way better build quality, VC, looks better, has weather resistance, has better coatings and isn't that much bigger than the Nikon all for a very reasonable price considering what you are getting. If it is optically as good or better than the Nikon and the AF preforms well it will be the one to get and the best value for the money as far as 85s go, unless of course you really want/need the 85mm f/1.4 and can pay for it.
Josh152: So basically Canon finally caught up to the D7100.
Wow too easy lol.
osan: I've just looked through the new Pentax K1 comments and non of the "what, no 4k video" mania is going on there. This is a weird/suspicious state of affairs to say the least.
Its not weird or suspicious. It's because Canon traditionally has been considered the go to brand for DSLR video. They even had a 1DX iteration made specifically for video. So people expected them to be leading the charge into 4K. Whereas Pentax is just barely getting into the FF game. Just finally having a FF camera is a s huge deal for Pentax users and over shadows any missing features.
So basically Canon finally caught up to the D7100.
Photo Pete: Shhh! Don't tell the Full Frame fanboys that their Full Frame is a cropped sensor.
God you m4/3s users like to project your inferiority complex concerning your chosen sensor size on to others. It is really getting old. FF users don't' care at all a bigger format is available. They also know Full Frame is short for the full 35mm frame and as such refers to a very specific sensor size only and is not and never has been meant to convey superiority. They know it was invented to help film SLR users with the transition to digital by using familiar terms like crop and full frame to explain how their lenses would work with the new DSLRs which were APS-C.
But m4/3s users like you seem all butt hurt because you think FF and crop are meant to convey that one is Superior and one is inferior instead. Like you're constantly afraid your camera is being called inferior so you have to prove it's not. Honestly to most FF users posts like yours make m4/3s users seem like a bunch of children that are afraid their sibling got the better toy and are now throwing a tantrum over it.
LFPCPH: They will make it fullframe - maybe ...
Well it's probably a safe bet that the D820 will be a FF version of this body style. Probably it will be slightly bigger, have 42mp, do 6fps in FX 7-8 in crop, but otherwise it will basically be a FF version of the D500. Most likely it will even lack the pop up flash and have the XQD slot instead of CF as well.
scrup: Re tweaking the specs based on the 6300 announcement. Need to remain competitive.
Umm no. That is the most silly thing I have read here. Firstly for what it's designed for the D500 will easily run circles around any mirrorless ever made or that probably will ever be made in the next 5 years.
Secondly this late in the game the camera is already in production. The specs were probably finalized to the point of no return at least a year ago.
I have a feeling there was a lot more demand for this camera than Nikon suspected. Which is probably why it took so long to be offered in the first place and when it finally was, probably just so Nikon had an answer to the 7DII, the high demand for the camera took Nikon by surprise. I love how everyone is making absurd conspiracy theories about defects and slamming Nikon for the delay. These same people would be even more critical of Nikon if they released on time and then immediately had a 3 month back-order just to fill the pre-orders.
JPMB: This is a lame incremental upgrade, so that Sony can get its acolytes to buy yet another body. Why does DPR proclaim "Oh Wow" about this thing? No IBIS, no increase in frame rate, no increase in resolution. DPR's allegiances are showing in recent announcements and reviews.
Right those features are just an incremental update. Those are all things the camera basically had to have improved to even be considered an upgrade to the A6000. So not that exciting and certainly not worth an "Oh wow" Also it does not have weather sealing according to DPR.
VENTURE-STAR: When I read something like "Oh Wow," describing a new product, it vaguely sounds like the kind of advertising copy I'd expect to find on Amazon.
Oh, hang on a sec, DP Review is Amazon under a different name. Silly me!
Yep so does calling the AF "incredible" based only on Sony's marketing copy without ever having used it.