GaryJP: Maybe the most amusing thing in all this is how those who attacked us "orb-crusaders" and "anti-Fuji conspirators", and said orbs were not such a big deal, have now become the first to put their names on the list for the sensor replacement.
Because there are many hypocrites out in this world...and I hate them all...
Webzilla: Despite all the whining about orbs that might apair in some situations, one should better focus on all the fantastic pictures this magnificent camera is able to produce in all other circumstances and which gives competition a hard nut to crack. Sell yours if you don't like it for the orbs, I'll keep mine for all the other benefits of this beauty.
Thats why I hate hypocrite like you! What? so if Fuji offer you to exchange to a Brand new X10s or X11 for your old X10 for free even YOUR X10 are so perfect and you will say to them:" no thank you, I love my X10 so much , I refuse your free offer..." Go FXXX yourself and just shut the FXXX up, hypocrite.
lowkl: Yikes! The sheer emotional response in this thread is amazing!
I am (still) seriously considering getting this camera, even with the acknowledged orb issue. To all those who scream 'this camera is beyond c*rp, Fujifilm should be publicly stoned to death for coming out with it, and anyone who says it's OK/good is an obvious shill and/or doesn't know photography from a hole in the ground!', please suggest anything currently available that has an equivalent:- price- fast lens- large dynamic range- optical viewfinder (or at least a viewfinder that can doesn't require holding the camera at arm's length)- decent higher-ISO performance
And yes, BTW one of the biggest disappointment for me on the X10 is that useless OVF. off centred, lack on any info, 85% only and lens barrel covered up 20 % of the view in wide angle. My good old FM2 and FM3a OVF offered more info and 100% coverage from more than 20 years ago.
I paid exactly the same money like the X10 for a Sony Nex-5n and the Sony is better than the X10 mile away in any category. My buddy got the Pentax Q and it was $150 cheaper than the X10 and the image was not that much different. I brought my wife a Canon S100 for her birthday and that little wonder is mile ahead of the X10 in any way, you want me to go on...
I found the timing just kind of funny...My buddy who live in Hong Kong and work for a major camera distributor told me that Fujifilm is ready for their big marketing push and advertisement campaign on the New X-1 Pro starting in the middle of March..... all the sudden, there is a "Die Endlösung" or "Finale solution" for the X10...
Oh well, all I can say now is I am so glad I sold mine and get a Sony Nex 7 and never be so happy and I don't have to await for another disappointment from Fuji...
max metz: With or without an Orb fix the Fujifilm X10 is an excellent camera, capable of achieving results previously only possible with a much larger sensor. The dynamic range is incredible, as is the low light capability, the photographic control exemplary, the lens excellent and the build quality premium.
The x10 design and development team really knew their stuff. For $600 an enthusiast can enjoy premium photographic results, the caveat being one has to spend time learning how to quickly configure the x10 sensor for each shot. I have written a guide here with examples: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/9311974549/getting-the-best-out-of-the-fujifilm-x10
In truth, fixing the orb issue will make an already excellent camera even better - that's a far cry from the x10 being a faulty product.
Max Metz and Nakeddork is the same dork, friends please just ignore him, he get his high and fix when people respond to his troll
sroute: Is the definitive solution a lens cap?
No, is a 2 weeks of great photography insightful vacation opportunity with the famous Nakeddork at any location you choose!
So you can finally, truly learn from the BEST photographer mankind ever known...NAKEDDORK aka the best X10 user that the universe has for all of us...
sgoldswo: I own the X10 amongst a host of other cameras (A900, NEX 7, X100). This obsession with X10 "orbs" doesn't do credit to DPR. It's very embarrasing to read this tosh continually. This is a non-issue in real world use. My X10 is a great little camera and I've seen the orbs maybe 3 times in the time I've owned the camera.
You do end up wondering if some of the people on this forum have been paid by other camera companies to make a fuss about nothing. It was the same with the video clicking on the NEX 5N - a complete molehill turned into a mountain by a few reviewers/posters.
If people have this much of a problem they really need to get a life...
At least, I am not the one to claim that I am educated from Cambridge,pal you are. How low can you go, down to attacking my English skill now? Yeah, English is my second language, so, you want to argue with me in Chinese or Japanese, what you can't! Wow, My nephew graduated from Cambridge and he can speak more than 5 different languages, you can't? let see how good your Chinese or Japanese are, moron.
Augustin Man: Frankly I can't understand this "war" between us, the users, in criticizing or defending a camera or a brand: more than often cameras of the same brand can be excellent or not so good. What is the purpose in defending a faulty camera or in criticizing a good one? I hope neither of us is an employee of a camera making company, thus for us the competition is benefic because we have more possibilities to choose that camera we like the best.
Again, simples please, king of BS.
Loewe NL: Last week I also bought a X10. I read about the white orbs but thought it would not bother me. It was a sunny day and I was testing the X10 just to see how it performs not thinking about the withe orbs at all. The photos were shot outside and cars were shining in the sun.
After reviewing the photos on my iMac 6 big white orbs were immediately visible on the edges of the cars. Another photo which shows the sun reflecting in a small lake contained numerous white orbs.
All other photos did not contain any white orbs, but did show beautiful images. The photos taken indoor in the evening without a flash were the best I have ever seen, unlike my other cameras.
I am an amateur, trying to learn and like taking pictures. Willing to spent time and money into this hobby. The X10 live up to my expectations in quality except for the white orbs. It does bother me more than I thought and I will return the camera.
Fujifilm please solve this issue so I won't have a problem buying it again.
Post some simple with your X10 with high reflection on metal under sunlight,please. What, you don't want to or don't need to, then you are just blowing hot air up everyone AXX and BSing here all along.
NikonScavenger: First of all, the orbs are real. I have no doubt that the people posting real world photos taken in a variety of situations are not maliciously trying to ruin Fuji's reputation by doctoring the images or exacerbating the issue. I also have no doubt that dpreview is pursuing the issue out of sincere concern for consumers, and not trying to single out Fuji.
What I don't understand is people who adamantly think this isn't real, is an exaggeration/fabrication, then go on to discredit and attack any legitimate sources who disagree.
It'll be fine, the fact that the product you bought being flawed does not reflect negatively upon what kind of person you are. Searing/irrational denial does... or calls into your motives for defending a flawed product. The internet is full of shills, mostly because it's so hard to prove, yet you tend to find them screaming at the top of their lungs that nothing is wrong and discrediting people who have legitimate concerns...
You are DORK for real bro.
iAPX: I am a photographer, a professional (fashion/beauty) + amateur (portrait/street). Like many other people here, I have SLRs, lenses, and different compact cameras, including LX3, Fuji W1 (3D is playful), X100... and don't own a X10. Not related to Canon, Nikon, Fuji or other. Enough disclosure!
I found the X10 sexy, a really interesting camera with strong features, maybe a camera I have bought if I have not a X100. And if it could be able to do good photo in any circumstance.
The basic and main feature of a camera for Expert, Pro or Amateur, is to output corrects images in most case, if any. Controls (and manual controls!), versatility, high-dynamic range, high ISO, are really a plus, but if the basic feature of taking an outdoor sunny day picture correctly is not there, they doesn't matter.
My point is, Fuji should correct that, I owned many Fuji camera that I liked (S7000, F10, W1, ...) and the first point is that they do great photos. No orbs.
when are you going to wake up and realize not everyone in this world live in your little utopia? Yeah, in the real world and many parts of the globe, people Could not JUST return the camera especially when the manufacture is denying any wrong with the camera, moron! People like you just simply PXSSED ME OFF!
OneGuy: I remember the times when people started to carry video cameras (yeah, with cassettes) and filmed just about anything. And so it came to be that a clip was made showing cops beating up a guy silly. That was the world before videos and I think things have changed for the better. Even cops have video recorders in their cruisers now as the burden shifted.
It appears we have a similar situation when the firms can no longer put out a poor product and expect no significant fallout. So now we have sites like dpr and we can get heads-up on things we would otherwise be rather ignorant about (ditto for TV news).
The power of the Internet also created counter-moves called the shills and fanboys (and one fangirl). Lets get smart. Most of us know where the truth is, we know da law, and all them spindocs are easy to pass over or filter out. We got the Internet, they got ... well, not much. I think it is not necessary to complain. Bring them on! Make my day.
Have you heard an expression of "First they burns book, than they burns people!" Before? Yes, the X10 is not the real concern or issue here, how the whole reaction and handling of the issue from Fujifilm Co. and people like yourself are the problem, white washing the truth, cover up spin doctor and try to fool the public and BTW, why not, do yo u know what kind of involvement as Fujifilm and its original company in building weaponry and KILLING tools for the Imperial Japanese Empire in WW2? How many of those same Imperial Japanese officers or Killers are still on the board of the company or running the show behind the scene. You are so naive and ignorance, just shut your mouth.
sgoldswo: I still think this story and some of the comments here are bizarre. We've had distasteful comments linking the X10 Orbs to the Nazis and police brutality. It's a camera - some of the ones they made apparently don't work very well.
I think some of the people posting here could do with seeing more "Orbs" of another kind...
If you buy it and aren't satisfied, return it.
didn't I tell you to shut up already, you know it all, you are the best on everything and you are better than everyone, you are the most distasteful one, pal.
KevinD65: Of course Fuji should address the issue, but I don't think they should hang their heads in shame. This is a great little camera and Fuji should be proud of it.
Is it defective? Well, depends how you look at it. No camera is perfect, just read dpreview's conclusions for any random camera. Every camera has flaws, be they build quality, mechanical failures, ergonomic issues, AF problems, color rendering, whatever. I remember when I bought my Nikon D200 and everyone was up in arms about the banding issue.
I bought the X10 because I wanted a camera that would fit comfortably in a belt holster for hiking, give me plenty of manual controls, and let me attach filters. I love the retro styling, the manual zoom ring, the way it feels in my hands, and for me the IQ is equal to or better than my D200 for like 1/10 of the size and weight. I'm not too worried about the orbs, and if I run into them I'll figure out a way of dealing with them.
Actually, The new Ferrari 458 Italia is notoriously famous for torching and starting burning itself up from the real wheel arch wall(Youtube or Google it!), but It's a Ferrari, its beautiful and Sexy like the X10...
You are one of the worse spoken solicitor I have encounter in a long time, if this is what a Cambridge grad is all about, then I am making sure my boys are not going there. BTW, I do have a nephew who is a REAL working solicitor and graduated just few years ago from Cambridge, he sure doesn't talk like you.
max metz: Two main photographic stores here in Perth Western Australia tell me the x10 is their biggest seller, the largest camera store in Australia is dropping Olympus and taking up the Fuji X series... orbs and all.
@ Max Metz,
You are really gone...are you mate? I am sorry for your delusional psychosis... Ferrari, French blondes, Grand prix and now "Austin Martins"(BTW it should be Aston Martin not Austin Martins) I think you drive a Hyundai hatchback and use a $200 P & S and has no life but watched couple episode of Australia Top Gear then came here to argue with people who actually owned better cameras and have REAL concerns, get a life or shut your mouth, mate.
GaryJP: I own this camera. As I mentioned in another conversation, I can't shoot in my TV studio with it as there are hot light sources. I can't shoot concerts with it as there are hot light sources.
I think even the admirers are going to get a rude awakening when skies get less overcast.
I can't trust it for night shots of Prague or Paris or Madrid unless I will accept high noise levels. And I LIKE night shooting.
I'd better be careful near water on a sunny day or children's birthday party candles.
Almost ALL the good pictures I've seen from this camera, and I have seen SOME, have been low dynamic range like snowy scenes with bright skies, cloudy days, no specular highlights, or a close up of a leaf.
What it certainly isn't and can never be is a carry anywhere, do anything compact. It's a disgrace.
The X10 White Orbs and the Fukushima radiation finally done its damage inside MAX METZ's head, he is gone...............we should have our condolence! ...But wait, it is not the radiation or the Orbs, he was a stubborn nut like to argue for the sake of argument to begin with...
skyfotos: I have long suspected that there was a variation between cameras. I have used my x10 extensively for three months now and have not really experienced the white discs. I did try to create them and succeeded only in in producing overly large blown out highlights which were not unduly unsightly - I guess they would have blown out on any camera. Shots taken in Venice along the Grand Canal at night show lights with star shaped halos and centres burnt out to various degrees The occasional light directed at the camera (as on an approaching boat) displaying a white disc - which may be, and looks like, the shape of a very bright light. It could be that using a higher ISO and a wider aperture and size M (6Mp) ameliorates the issue.All in all nothing to worry about. MY camera is a very fine tool that I love using.
Show us those "Fine" pictures of your, you are BSing.
Francis Carver: Folks, what we have here on the part of Fujifilm of Nippon is a world-wide public relation catastrophe or earthquake/tsunami proportions.
Doesn't seems like they care, typical Japanese arrogant.