Nectar D Or: Just counted 9 (!!) NEX bodies announced by Sony in about 2.5 years.
How can anyone keep track? Is there really a difference between those cameras?
I find it hard to take the guys at Sony seriously. Either there is something really wrong with those bodies that need to be replaced every 6 months, or this is just the marketing people ordering the engineers around.
The lens alone is worth the price of entry, that new 16-50 introduced with the NEX6 is an absolute ripper with its optical performance. And the proven sensor combined with the new Bionz processor simply tops-off the package.
As long as this thing has exposure bracketing, well really this would have to be the best value for money EVIL (Electronic Viewfinder Interchangeable Lens) camera on the market, and it is lightweight too plus good battery life relatively speaking. For the 'Less-is-more' crowd' this is a dream come true with tried and true technologies; not much to criticize at this price-point i say.
The sensor combined with the new Bionz processor will even outperform the NEX6 since the NEX6 does not have the new Bionz processor. If i was totally strapped for cash this would be it, however, i'm tossing-up between the upcoming Samsung NX300 and the Alpha 58 depending on review results in the noise performance from these two. What a great time to be in the camera market.
SulfurousBeast: I was about to buy an ILC as secondary camera, but this release has had me thinking...atlast really meaningful updates to the rebel - 9 Cross Type Focus points, Touch Screen, 5 FPS, Stereo Mic, Continous AF in Video - Nice job Canon. Will wait till the holiday season though.
I can hear huge thunderous bangs in the distance, Oh look! It's a transformer! No! It's superman, No! It's big-bird from sesame street, No! It's a train, No! It's a nuclear-shower coming our way! No! It's a formula one car, No! It's ulley barber and the 40 theives, No! It's the Nikon d5200 special-forces with nitro, coming to settle scores, WHOA! LOOK OUT!Hang on! I hear more thuds! It's a ghost, No! It's a lawnmower, No! It's a sniper with a shotgun in the 40 watt range, No! It's a New Zealand rugby team, No! it's a Boeing dreamliner, No! It's a team of bank-robbers, No! It's a truck, Damn, get a load of that, It's the Pentax K5 replacement, and it's drunk and angry that someone would try to steal it's thunder, what? Full weather-sealing you say, plus the kitchen sink, and icing to boot; well raise my rent and i'll be a monkeys uncle, gimmie dat! They breed them tough at Pentax, especially their heavyweights which always go down swinging...In thurrr bluuue cooornerrr!
Mssimo: They should have a kit with the 40mm f2.8
No HDMI output; No socket for external mic; no adjustable LCD; No silent focusing lens and thus unacceptable noise in videos which makes it almost pointless to have video (and mono at that); Surely these things should have got priority before a 100% viewfinder. What the hell is Pentax thinking. I have only ever bought Pentax DSLR's, i'm going to jump ship for such pig-headed negligence.
The Nikon D3200 has a mic socket and HDMI output, a near-silent lens, and a top performing 24 megapixel high-resolution sensor which also has no moire, ultra-low noise at ISO 100 in RAW, and great dynamic range. And the D3200 is much cheaper, so you tell me. The upcoming Nikon D5200 will crap all over this K30 at a similar price with none of these omissions. And then we get to see the Canon 4Ti, which will definitely be the bomb, so i think Pentax is shooting themselves in the foot, why? Because i will not have to fork-out the money for the K5 successor to get the K5 successors features, that's why!
60i video at 24 mbps, yawn...Talk about a budget camera, going by the specs neither of these two new Sony's are worthy of any consideration, but at least a total amateur can have a top-notch 16 megapixel sensor at a great price. Currently the Sony a57 is in my sights, but the 16 megapixel sensor in the Pentax K01 outperforms the Sony sensor. The Pentax has lower noise, and that's what is important to me, all other things being equal. Also the Pentax has manual level audio control in the video features but the Sony does not, that is a big difference to anyone shooting video.
Don't forget the upcoming Nikon D5200 will be something to be reckoned with, Nikon isn't going to take all this commotion lying down, and the Nikon 24 megapixel sensor outperforms both the 16 and 24 megapixel Sony sensor in terms of lower noise in RAW files.For those who are wondering, the viewfinder in the Sony a57 is big and and clear, none of that tunnel vision like a lot of other midrange SLR's, more pro-like.
TrojMacReady: Besides obvious differences in the look of the sensors themselves, the relatively high shadow noise (push a couple yourself) at base ISO, seems to be the clear give away that we're not looking at a Sony Exmor 24MP sensor. Especially given the fact that these are jpegs, with NR.
Now listen here Nikon and you people! Realize and understand this! defraction at this pixel density on this APS/C sensor kicks in at F6.3 and believe me defraction is extremely detrimental to Image-Quality. Why would anyone bother to buy a so-called "pin-sharp" expensive lens if its sharpness is completely destroyed by defraction at F6.3 upwards. Simply look at real world 100% magnification shots and do the comparsions; Basically only F5.6 is gonna give you the sharp images you want, any smaller aperture beyond that F8 or F11 and the shots will be near useless for serious pgotographers and even enthusiasts who want decent quality sharp shots, no matter how expensive your lens is. Defraction is a very real problem to this whole situation; so to sum up, at APS/C sensor size combined with this pixel density, an aperture of F8 and beyond is basically useless. Now is that what you really want? And why isn't Nikon and Canon openly admitting such a thing? Think about that! Its a sad reality.
kff: What a great ! Remote control of camera by Wi-Fi ...
and Where is mount of tripod on the tablets or two mounts for beeter stability ?... maybe a new Galaxy Tab 3 etc.:)
I want to get it and AFadapter for my Pentax lenses ... :)
It only needs add a radio TTL control for external flashes.Maybe it is possible to do it in the controll Android device:sw and hw solution ...
Next step would be a sharing memory of camera and tablet via a special high speed connection etc.
Well actually it never ceases to amaze me just how stupid these companies are. Clearly they are not trying to attract the enthusiast market with their cameras. If they want to compete they have to value-add, do it all with better quality, and at a lower price. Hasn't Samsung heard of AVCHD 2.0. 1920-1080 at 60fps at 28mbps. Why do they "insist" on not giving it to us despite it being freely available to them and easy to implement. Gosh, these new Samsungs only have a CIPA rating of 310 shots, and that 20 megapixel sensor is even noisier than Sony's 24 mp sensor. Samsung is supposed to be a world-class electronics company competing at the upper echelons of electronics and they keep coming out with junk. Unbelievable, i do not make excuses for these stupid antics like other people do, and i will never accept such incompetence, in this day and age there is no excuse for utter stupidity and bad implementation of technology, no matter what niche they are claiming to address, simple as that!
No Bracketing, so Nikon is "DICTATING" that we are not allowed to do proper HDR...a__holes. They put us in a corner and demand we pay "more" for the D5200, but they obviously are not thinking correctly, they don't seem to realize their competitors are offering bracketing in their entry level models. The Sony A57 is only $100 more and it blows this D3200 out of the water, it does not even have the now "essential" "standard" "ubiquitous" articulating screen, go shove it Nikon, the Sony A57 has all these essentials and more, plus FHD 60fps video at 28mbps, plus bracketing, plus super-quick full-time autofocus while shooting video with full manual control, and also a lower noise sensor with plenty of detail and better dynamic range; now tell me people, are you going to get a Sony a57 and do things properly for a good low price, or save $100 and get a kick up the ass from Nikon with a noisy sensor and lots of missing features. There you go, i've solved your problem for you, go buy the a57.
(unknown member): What an ugly camera. And way too expensive for what you get. I think $133 is a fair price. And why aren't there any sample pictures of hot blonde girls dancing in dark night clubs? I mean, without that particular shot how in the world can we tell how good this mid-20th century radio....I mean camera really is? It looks like the upper left corner is 1/8th stop darker than the bottom right corner. :) LOL Sorry, I couldn't help myself. Looks like a fascinating camera. I wonder if people will insist the AF speed of this camera match other $1,700 cameras.
I have never seen pictures this good from any camera in my life, if God made a camera this is it. However, i need all the mod cons and video features and filters in today's modern SLR's and all at a good price, so a Sony a57 will do me just fine.
animal900: Will it have smile detection?
If it takes high quality still photos as it says, then as long as those photos can be taken as DNG RAW, that would effectively make a Canon 1 DX and Nikon D4 an unnecessary expense. Plus you will have the best video camera on the planet and would make the video functions and quality on the Canon and Nikon look amateur...for the same price as the flagship Canon and Nikon you will have far more power for both still photos and video with interchangeable lenses...just a thought.
sravpes: To be little bit closer to Canon's prices?
I love it when companies like Nikon starting taking customers for granted, great strategy, publish initial pricing and see how the market reacts, if it exceeds expectations then up the price, they are so obvious its ridiculous, how stupid do they think we are.Anyway it gives opportunity for competing brands who are just as capable and give us more for less. Pentax and Samsung and Sony can just jump in like vultures and feast on the customers who want better value for money.Anyway, official announcement, the D800 has got severe moire problems with its video, not preproduction issues, but part of the final production units, so don't say you weren't warned Nikon dweebs. Therefore it is useless to me and even bad for amateurs. In fact, even the Canon 60D replacement will out perform this D800 at 1/3rd the price, Nikon will have to be taught a lesson not to blaspheme, there profits will plummet. Bring on the Canon 60D and 600D replacements, i'll be buying those, much better video!
RawthenticFilms: this is a kick in the balls for any A77 user, most of the A77's unique features are no available in a camera that is selling for less than $900.00 that is some major BS!
Value for money wise, the a57 is brilliant, it is better cost wise and feature wise than both a D5100 and a 600D, but i can't see Canon and Nikon sitting back and taking this lying down, the a57 has the potential to do some serious damage to both Canon and Nikon's reputation, and market share. However, i myself am not happy with Sony's decision to put a compromised LCD viewfinder, i'm quite annoyed about that, but all in all, the a57 will be huge. I myself am seriously considering the Olympus OMD EM-5 as an alternative, go do a comparison with the initial release test shots here on Dpreview and compare the shots side by side with the 5DmkIII, the new Olympus OMD usurps the Canon easily right up to ISO3200, go look at it yourself, make sure you look at the Olympus shots with Noise Reduction switched off, and look how the noise is not only lower, but the grain structure is superior, and the colours more accurate, plus the per-pixel sharpness beats out the 5DmkIII, quite amazing really.
The Canon 60D and 7D replacement with all the latest advancements will be much better value for money.
But the Pentax K5 replacement will match the 5D mkIII every step of the way plus improve on it, at half the price...The K5 already has a big bright 100% viewfinder, top-notch autofocus all with cross-hair focus points, full weather sealing, excellent battery-life, 7fps shooting, and even RAW development that can save as TIFF files all onboard.
Any improvements to the K5 including QDX memory cards and all the same video features as the 5D mkIII, manual level audio control (which the recently announced Pentak K-01 already has), headphone socket, external mic etc will simply make any buyers of the 5D mkIII a fashion victim, who is either stupid, or has more money than brains, unless of course they have already invested thousands of dollars in Canon lenses.
The 5D mkIII has no adjustable LCD and is stuck trying not to undermine the 1DX, very sad, Sorry, please leave the room 5D mkIII.
topstuff: I must admit I find it hard to come to terms with the viewfinder.
How can a flagship compact from the worlds number 1 camera maker, have a viewfinder just the same as a $5 disposable film camera?
Viewfinder is horrible. Spoils the camera for me. A deal breaker.
Why the hell would anyone buy such a stupid camera, there is nothing in those raw shots that show it to be next generation at all, more noise than even the Nikon D5100, the noise coming from the Nikon D5100 in raw is the maximum i would accept. Not only that, bot the Samsung NX200 has a better performing sensor, with as many features plus more, but is native 3:2 aspect ratio and has interchangeable lenses, and is more pro looking, for the same price, and all at a slightly more compact size. So much for Digic 5 and so-called next generation processor, nothing exceptional at all do i see from those G1X shots.
ZorSy: The sample photo (portrait posted elsewhere) has a CAT in it! Could not resist to notice it here as so many whined about people buying expensive cameras and posting photos of cats. It's official: D800 is a perfect camera for people who own a cat.With the latest 2 pro bodies (D4 and D800) Nikon has covered the lot both speed and resolution, bravo Nikon.
The whole mega-pixel race is stupid. Give me a 16 megapixel sensor with no noise in RAW at ISO 1600 and you can keep your 36 megapixel wannabe. These companies make me sick settling for a certain amount of noise. The whole idea is no noise, hellooooo, bloody heck. And whats all this hype about video features on these new Nikons, what a load of crap! Sony's NEX 5N runs 60fps Full HD at 28 mbs for God's sake, and why on this earth does stupid Nikon and Canon think that everyone is addicted to motion judder at 24 fps, Canon and Nikon...Get a life! Sheesh! The only reason the movie industry films at 24fps is because the picture theatres having been sulking and whining about having to upgrade their projectors to screen 60fps movies. James Cameron who made Avatar gave them an ultimatum and is now insisting that all movie houses upgrade their projectors to show movies shot at 60fps. Why the hell some idiots want to look at motion judder in their movies is beyond me...WHOA!!
Martin Datzinger: I've got a rather big soft spot in my heart for Pentax. But this, sorry, is about the biggest failure they could possibly come up with. A mirrorless supposedly supposedly fashionable toy camera exactly as big as the brand's own venerable flagship model, with a fake prism hump but not a viewfinder _at all_, the whole thing meant to be used with big lenses that need support but there isn't even a grip worth mentioning and then this utterly ridiculous design that looks like built from a Lego, or rather Duplo brickset? Not mentioning possible AF issues? What on earth have they been smoking?
Love the look of the silver and black version, looks great. It s OK to take risks with design, especially when done by famed designers, but they screwed up with no thumb grip on the back.They have now dropped the .PEF RAW format and gone with .DNG RAW files "Uncompressed" which is good but only 12bit processing, which is bad compared to Nikon and Canon.The thing that does make this camera worthy is the revised updated 16 megapixel chip which has even better noise characteristics than their K5, and that was already a stellar performing chip.But the best thing for me is the video features, they now have manual aperture and shutter control, autofocus, 60fps in HD mode, a wind filter( which makes a big difference) built in stereo recording and a Mic input, plus MANUAL AUDIO GAIN CONTROL, yee haa just what i wanted. Their new video features now have all the positive attributes of the Canon 5D mkII. Also they have the best range of post processing filters on the market.