grasscatcher: Sounds like this would be a great camera if it instead had Sony's 20mp 1" sensor, yet still retained those great Fuji colors.
I like adding bacon and a side of fries.
Canon 11-24 is missing.
mpgxsvcd: This camera looks great when you compare it to almost 3 year old cameras like the LX7 that were half the price of the X30. However, when you compare it to modern cameras(Rx100 MK III and LX100) you will see that its undersized sensor is its Achilles’ heel.
Yes the RX100 MK III and LX100 are more expensive than the X30. However, the extra money is well worth it. The X30 is a nice effort but they simply choose the wrong sensor size. It needs at least a 1 inch sensor and closer to 4/3” would have been much better.
Don't forgot G7X. I picked it over RX100 III because of the longer and faster lens. It is a noticable step up from the RX100 I I have.
I still believe the ranking for high-end pocketable compact is G7X, RX100 III, LX100 and finally X30. The top 3 all have something special but X30 is just a LX100 with tiny sensor.
retro76: The problem with these mirrorless cameras is price. The new OMD, Fujis and Samsungs are starting to approach FF prices. And while there are advantages to mirrorless such as suze and weight (which I love), the image quality in my subjective, but honest opinion isn't in the same ballpark. I just picked up a new 6D and 40 2.8 pancake for $1500. Coming from mirrorless the 6D is bigger but with the pancake it's not as dramatic as one thinks. The focusing is better in terms of accuracy (especially low light), the battery lasts forever, the body controls are so much easier to use due to the larger layout, and the camera while not as attractive and cool as the mirrorless bodies, connects so much better with the photographer. Last but not least the files are simply beautiful unlike anything I have seen.
EVIL/mirrorless used to be cheaper but now companies are selling them at a premium due to a number of advantage over DSLR. Lighter body, faster fps, quieter shutter and better video AF. Of course EVIL/mirrorless also have lots of disadvantages but some people don't care that much about them.
mr.izo: can someone tells me, which sensors use fuji, samsung, olympus etc in theirs mirrorless models?i'm guessing fuji (same pentax in thier new dlsr line) is sony/toshiba "bitch", while for oly i would song goes with kodak?, for samsung i have no idea, panasonic etc??
What are you talking about?
Fuji, Pentax, Olympus & SONY - SONYPanasonic - PanasonicNikon - SONY, Toshiba & AptinaCanon - CanonSamsung - Samsung
Photos look good especially at 28mp. I'd like to see side-by-side comparison with a6000 and the upcoming GX8 and Fujifilm 24mp camera in the full review. For now, I still think the discounted a6000 and GX7 are better deals.
BTW, anyone find it unusual the native Hawaiians are embracing the tourists' version of Hawaiian culture as their real heritage?
The Chrome Film Simulation photo with the pretty model on page 4 have horrible sharpness at ISO 400. Was it the effect, the 200% DR or just poor processing? I think my X-E1 can do a lot better at ISO 400.
Seattle isn't that much fun I guess. I bet you'd get a lot interesting thing to photography if DP move to New York or East Asia.
Also, that some deep DOF. Back when I was shooting with my E-PL2 I mostly use the 20 f/1.7 so I guess I didn't notice how deep the DOF was.
J A C S: The "Editor's Note" leaves a bad taste in the mouth. If you had something more to say, you should have said it during the interview.
This remark is not restricted to this interview only.
@J A C SI got a feeling you don't get what interview means as that's done on TV interviews. If you just want Olympus marketing terms, ask Mr. Ogawa to host an online Q&A with community voted questions. You won't get anything critical of Olympus that way.
fotodp: Several posters assume that Oly and Sony are true competitors. Unless something has changed they are not: Sony is the largest shareholder in Oly and bailed out Oly a couple of years back promising synergies between sensor expertise and lens expertise. Puzzling that Mr Ogawa didn't bring it up. Is Sony perhaps betting on 1" and full frame being the two system survivors. But why not instruct Oly to make lens designs for Sony, its parent company. Or maybe Sony has sold or is going to sell its stake?
Some people don't understand what biggest shareholder mean. It means unless other institutional shareholders decided to band together or someone managed to convince millions of individual shareholder to vote the same, SONY calls the shot at Olympus, all divisions.
Marty4650: If their policy has been "to make cameras compact" since 1936, then someone must explain the Olympus E3 (2007) and E5 (2010).
Those two cameras were just as big and heavy as a Canon 5D with a sensor 1/4th the size.
@HowaboutRAWOlympus never made a sensor above 16mp so how do you figure it made better lenses than Canon when Canon is willing to put 50mp behind the lens to test it?
mpgxsvcd: I would love to see an example where 16 megapixels simply isn’t enough. Most kit lenses won’t even resolve that much detail. Dpreview had to resort to the “exotic” 42.5mm F1.2 lens to get consistent results in the high resolution mode.
Just proving Olympus lenses aren't as good as people made them out to be.... glass simply haven't caught up with sensor resolution increase. According to Sigma or Tamron, one of their new lens is capable of resolving detail for the Canon 50mp sensor. If that's true, m4/3 might be stuck at 16mp, APS-C at 24/28mp and FF at 50/54mp until new glasses are out.
Reads a bit like Canon's interview. Neither company have full control of the sensor they got so somehow their users never requested higher resolution. They also don't see outside companies as threat wven when facing superior technology
Where are his arms?
Is this Indonesia?
Franz Weber: Silver award is enough.Have you considered how utterly high the gold price has risen?If dpreview gave every camera a gold award they would be bacrupt in no time!Those claimouring for a gold award should donate some of their own gold to dpreview.
@lightanddayFree shipping on GOLD if you purchsed at least $50 worth or have Amazon Prime.
showmeyourpics: Camera gear should be judged by what you get out of it and at what cost (money and aggravation). If what you do with it is pixel peeping and/or bragging about it, then let's face it, you are not a photographer. Making large prints is the most demanding output with slide shows and sharing on the web being much less challenging. I love to travel to places that inspire me (Nature, city's, etc.) and can afford or intend to visit only once, and want reliable gear at affordable prices that is comfortable to carry around and let me make high quality prints up to 24x36". Here comes the M4/3 system with the new killer E-M5 II body and a record selection of good-to-excellent lenses (minuscule F/3.5 or f/4 lenses, larger pro level f/2.8 models, and all the 4/3 lenses with an inexpensive AF adapter) at a decent price. I do my diligent and fun research and, to the best of my knowledge, there is nothing else out there that can match its combination of quality, versatility, ergonomics and price.
@showmeyourpicsYou haven't research enough then. I have seen plenty of good photos and heard many praises from Fujifilm and SONY shooters using native or adapted lenses.
dgrogers: After reading this review and the Sony A7s, I am left wondering how the camera that doesn't seem to really get anything right and has an extensive list of cons that is as large as its pros can get a higher score.
The rating is within category. E-M5 II is up against the mk 1, E-M1, GH4 and GX7 and it is simply not good enough to get a higher rating as the price it is asking. Expend the competition to include X-T1, A6000, NX-1 and it will fare even worse.
Mike FL: Olympus is kind of catching up recently while Panasonic is going down as expected.
Panasonic simply don't have the installed fan-base that's willing to port over a few hundred dollars just for the logo.
stonycreeker: I am but a photo troll in comparison to the posters here, but I would like to offer that this is a gorgeous, beautifully made camera that takes great photos - although I still like my beloved NEX-7 best. I visited my local camera shop - we still have one in Ct. (Milford Photo) - and looked at the Sony A7 - way too big, full frame or not - a Fujifilm, and the Olympus, the Mk II being the shop's best seller. If a camera that takes great photos and isn't the equivalent of a really heavy softball is important you, this (and the NEX-7) are it.
@bluevelletSONY is also the company that introduced the CDs, Walkman and Trinitron TV.
SONY is also still supporting the Minolta A-mount from 1985 unlike Olympus which long abandoned the OM and 4/3 systems.