brycesteiner: This is seriously considered a sport?
50-60 years ago, it wasn't the same sport. In fact it was most probably "sports entertainment". Roller Derby as seen here is a sport developed only in the last 10-15 years.
Martinka: Nice video, terrible photos...
Yeah, we've already seen your earlier efforts in this thread, nerd2. We don't need another bait and switch from you so soon.
What happened to the need for "For any sports photography, you just need sharp, well isolated from background, clean image of something interesting." Did you decide that wasn't a goal worth following up on?
If you'd like to give me 10-15 grand or so, I can put together a rig that would satisfy your requirements, nerd2. Something like a D4 and a 200f2 would be the place to start.
Armchair criticism is easy. Roller Derby is easy to access. Go shoot some and report back.
A few people here seem to be under the impression that the goal behind shooting derby is to grab a handful of shots for your blog. That is incorrect. The photos are usually for the players so they can see the bout from a more relaxed viewpoint (as opposed to being in the thick of it). Finding some nice artsy shots is a bonus, but that's the sort of thing you play around with when there are enough other photogs providing decent coverage of the bout.
And, as I mentioned before, if your plan is to use DoF to isolate players, then, IMO, you're doing it wrong. It's not the best tool for the job. A much better approach is to isolate with lighting.
Precious few of the greatest sports photographs fit your list of requirements.
Damn. I forgot the inverse correlation between the calibre of some sports photogs on this site, and their ability to understand basic concepts.
Had a look. Nah, I think Donald Chin does much better work.
Oh, what's that? I'm not supposed to troll the professional sports photogs when they act like jerks. :P
I had a look at your art of sport page. Great shots, but entirely useless for what the Roller Derby people are looking for. I suspect you know that though.
nerd2: I don't get it. $1099 body + $899 12-40 2.8 + $1499 40-150 2.8 + 45 1.8 = whooping $4K worth of gear, frequent lens changes and only 5fps.
I could use D750 + 28-300 lens combo to take approximately the same outputs, while much less hassle overall (cheaper and lighter, does not require lens change, faster AF, faster fps, comparable DOF, comparable resolution etc)
First was the bait, and now comes the switch. :P
Now add another lens to get to 24mm. And another lens to beat the 75mm, and another lens to beat the 45mm. Actually, you're shooting derby, so perhaps the 70-200 f2.8 would be a good choice and will cleanup the M4/3 primes. So now we're back at D750 + 24-70 + 70-200 (and a janky 28-300). Now we're up above 4kg of kit. That's not looking so fun anymore but at least you'll be able to say you can beat the M4/3s kit. :P
Of course, that's assuming you plan to use the camera for one job. Now add macro, wildlife, etc into the mix. That's ok, 150-600mm lenses are now common. What's another couple of kilos. :D
Then, leave it all behind and buy a superzoom for when you go travelling.
Ahhh, cameras. :D
Thorgrem: Great field test. Seems like m4/3 is up to the task of shooting such a difficult to shoot sport.
I'm with you Daniel. 75mm and 12-40 are my favourite lenses for this sport.
pkosewski: Ah... the "eyes are sharp" thing.I looked at some shots in the gallery. We are talking about DoF of 2-3 meters. It's not really about nailing focus as getting something in focus or being totally lost. Players are isolated very well...As such, 20% rate of "being totally lost" is quite a lot. Especially at 5 fps.
I'm pointing this out because Olympus is planning to release the 300/4 and600mm FF equivalent is not exactly a general-purpose lens. With this quality of focusing I don't think it will win over many nature photographers...
I'm certainly going to be using the 300 handheld, and waving it around like a maniac. :D
Sure TimT999. That can be done. In an event like roller derby, where the crowd is often closer to the skaters than you are, you could do that with, say a 200mm f2 or faster.
I'll let you get on with that.
Most derby photogs I've seen prefer the 70-200 f2.8, and if they want to isolate a skater use lighting, rather than trying to rely on DOF to knock out the background.
I tihnk Bryce is possibly ignorant of the history of Roller Derby, and is thinking of the long extinct "sports entertainment" version.
Bryce, time to update your knowledge. You're only 30 years out of date.
Great video DPR people. Get well soon Allison.
biza43: These actually make sense, it's just a downsize from their similar range for DSLRs. Believe or not, I have yet to find a good backpack that can take my E-M1 and lens, plus a small laptop, plus a variety of miscellaneous stuff, for travel.
This might be it, finally.
I'm in a similar situation. I am going to try using a good laptop backpack (STM Drifter) and use a padded cell for the camera gear.
Duchamp, I think you may prefer a shopping trolley to your car. I mean, they both have wheels, and the shopping trolley is much smaller.
Great post. I've been doing the same down here in Australia. The Great Southern Slam is coming up next weekend so my OM-D's are going to be busy. (45 teams, 3 days) :D
Possibly bornite, or peacock ore. It's a copper sulphide.
The gold bit may be chalcopyrite.