arhmatic: Nikon, why in the work are you refusing to include GPS?
Every phone has it now. Please don't suggest I get the dongle, I will never get it.
"High speed USB 3 yes, wifi yes, gps - really want all that battery drain ? really ?"
The battery drain issue is a total myth.
I use an A77 whichhas GPS and its on all the time. Battery drain really isn't an issue. Some of those old add-on GPS units run forever on a small battery so I see no reason why a properly implemented GPS in a camera should cause excessive battery drain. It does not in mine.
All the suggested alternatives are a kludge after you have used built-in GPS. Turn GPS on in my phone and that does drain the small battery whereas the much larger camera battery takes it in its stride.
Using 3rd party dongles requires manual tagging in PP. use manufacturer supplied ones as Nikon sell and they cost too much and are cumbersome.
And you can always turn it off if you are needlessly paranoid about battery drain.
Interestingness: Sorry to hi-jack this post on what looks to be a wonderful mkII camera but this is relevant...
A recent post on Steve Huff's site will hopefully shut up some of these annoying Sony fanboi's. As a m4/3's user I'm really impressed with how the EM1 did and even as someone who will NEVER own a Sony branded cam, I have to say how disappointing the A7s did overall. If I dropped $2400.- (CDN pricing) on that thing I'd be rushing back for a full refund!
PS - The 1st person who comes up with a NOT-A-SONY sticker for my camera has a customer right here - shut up and take my money!
No idea why you are so anti-Sony (nor do I care) but clearly you are biased against them so why would anyone take note of what you have to say as regards anything they produce?
Anastigmat: Being a landscape camera, it should come with a built-in GPS, and that data can then be used to go back to the exact spot years later, even if one forgot where the photo was originally taken. A GPS unit would be less useful if one is shooting sports because the uniforms would inform you which team was playing and therefore where the photos were taken. It is a glaring omission that hopefully Canon can correct before launching the camera.
Joseph if there is an issue with the cameras GPS I'd get it repaired just as if the AF stopped working.
Updating the clock is useful if you travel across time zones and it means its one less thing to think about when the clocks go back or forward. It's called convenience.
As to GPS eating the battery alive this is completely false in my experience. I leave GPS on all the time on my A77 and battery life is excellent with no issues. Can't speak for other cameras but I never think to turn GPS off.
There is no issue with acquisition either because with the A77 if you plug it into your computer it updates the GPS data with satellite locations for tbe next month. This is similar to what Tom Tom sat navs do with their "quick gps fix" feature.
As to who cares if you trot over to the Sony forum there are plenty of people who own the A77 and other SOny cameras that had GPS who are not upgrading to the A77II because the latter lacks the GPS, me included.
AngryCorgi: Can't compete with Nikon and Pentax's entry-level IQ? No problem, we'll throw an LCD panel on it! That'll do the trick. :-P
"Amazing how that extra bit of DR at low ISO never produces a better image."
That is complete nonsense. Clipped highlights are far less of a problem with cameras with a wider DR. It is not al just about the shadows. Higher DR = more detail at the extremes.
To suggest otherwise is daft.
x-vision: Very good article, bringing some very interesting points.
Canon's ultimate goal here is stop discounting the premium models, IMO.
It has become a common practice in the past couple of years to introduce a camera at a certain price and discount it only a couple of months later. This is good for us, consumers, but I doubt it makes sense for manufacturers.
So, by having the 70D, T6s, and T6i spec'd and priced so closely, Canon is likely attempting to prevent price erosion of the 70D and T6s models, while still offering a lower price on the T6i.
Note that the intro price of the Rebel series in the US has been $850 for more than five years now - and the T6i is now introduced at $750.
"Canon's ultimate goal here is stop discounting the premium models, IMO."
It is a classic case of price segmentation. The 750 allows Canon to charge a higher price for the 760 and to maintain that price differential regardless of the actual costs involved in producing the 760 compared to the 750.
Whether this works or not depends on just what is on offer i.e. is the 760 good enough and well built enough to justify its price.
As to this filtering up the line helping maintain the price of higher end models such as the 70D or even the 7DII this also depends on the ultimate quality and value of these cameras.
This is because while these lower end cameras help you devise a price book with steadily increasing prices with each higher up the chain model attracting a price premium over the one down this all falls apart if people perceive a model as overpriced.
Personally I think the 7DII is overpriced already and price segmentation does not change that.
Wavehog Films: A classic case of price discrimination? The existence of the 750D probably means that the 760D costs less.
ASSUME Canon developed a single 760/750D platform with the full complement of features; demand is 100k and 110k units at $850 and $750, respectively; the platform needs to generate revenue of $92.5m.
Selling 100k units at $850 falls short ($85m). Charging $750 increases shipments but lowers revenue ($82.5m). But, selling 100k units at $850 and 10k units at $750, meets the $92.5m goal. For this type of price discrimination for work, the 750D must be utterly unappealing to the advanced user…which it is.
If the 750D did not exist, the 760D would cost more. Unit sales fall as price increases (“law of demand”). Would 92.5k buyers pay $1k for the 760D? (Is a stand-alone 760D even commercially viable?) One thing is certain, $1,000 is more than $850.
Wavehog Films wrote: "A classic case of price discrimination? The existence of the 750D probably means that the 760D costs less."
Surely you have that completely the wrong way around.
It is a classic marketing tactic to introduce a lower end model at a certain price to justify a higher price for the one above it.
What these prices are will be dictated by demand to an extent but you can be sure the 760 will have a premium over the 750 obviously and that is why the 750 exists.
A higher price can be justified for the 760 because it's better than the 750 and that price differential won't have a great deal to do with the actual cost of building the 760 and everything to do with what the marketing department considers the market will stand.
(unknown member): I have sold my D80. Yes. My first and last, trusty Nikon. I wanted a second hand D90, but the current offers are inconsistent. I would buy a new one if possible... Now, I still have the 700D. I am seriously considering to sell it. So... D80+700D = 760D (good enough camera with top display)? What do you think?P. S.: it might sound stupid, but the sec display is a handy tool...
" I will need a rather old camera for situations when the risk of theft is high"
I find that a very odd thing to say. Where on earth do you take your cameras? Down a dark alley at 1am in the morning in some dubious city suburb?
Viramati: Great if the IBIS was reliable!! My A7II IBIS mechanism broke down after 3 weeks use and the camera has been with Sony now for over 3 weeks and they still don't have the part to fix it. Not fantastic
"....but Sony initially told me that their had been a production issue and my dealer only had another camera from the first batch they received"
So why isn't this headline news? The A7II has a production issue? First I have heard of it.
Why no product recall for all A7II's if there is such an issue?
Even if there is one you should have taken the replacement A7II camera offered. There is absolutely no point in going for a repair when the camera has such a basic fault.
The fact the other A7II was from the same batch is irrelevant. It may not have had this production issue but of it did you would still be entitled to a replacement with one that didn't. Not a repair.
pew pew: some people complain about slow aperture lenses, when sony makes fast lenses the same people complain about the lens size, kinda funny, personalty I´m happy with these new lenses, more lens the better.
"some people complain about slow aperture lenses, when sony makes fast lenses the same people complain about the lens size, kinda funny, "
The problem is Sony goes from one extreme to the other. The 35mm F2.8 is not only overpriced but IS too slow. So now they bring out a mega-expensive and huge 35mm F1.4.
The A7 series is crying out for a 35mm F2 !!! Look at the size and cost of such lenses (Canon 35mm F2 with O/S is a good example).
Yes I know Zeiss make a 35mm F2 but it is manual focus.
As to the 28mm and those two adaptors, what a cop out. Make the primes or don't bother!
"There are a hundred ways to tag photos with GPS data without it being built in to a camera."
And they are all inferior compared to having it built in.
Little things like the fact the GPS automatically updates the camera clock is very useful if you cross time zones as you travel around, not just the tagging.
Every alternative external device requires you to make sure it is charged up, make sure it is switched on and then you have to go through a process to match the GPS data to the images in post-processing.
Built in GPS removes all this potential for error and the sheer hassle of it all.
As to using a smart phone, you can't be serious given how most of them drain batteries very fast whenever GPS is switched on.
Canon do GPS very well on some of their other d-slrs so its omission here is strange. Maybe because they crammed the new sensor into an "old" body design, who knows.
jacek2008: Please Pentax NO built-in toy flash. Give IMAX-like viewfinder view.
"Please Pentax NO built-in toy flash."
I never understand this inverse snobbery type of attitude. The built in flashes some dslrs have provide a useful fill in flash capability.
I bet you don't want a tilting or articulating rear screen either! Another oft-quoted and equally bizarre attitude some people have.
mpgxsvcd: I wish all of the camera manufactures realized what Canon has already figured out. Canon knows that if you get the word out there that your cameras are the “best” then it will take a long time for the general public to figure it out if that no longer is true.
Basically Canon is still riding high on their PR campaign from more than a decade ago. They still sell some cameras simply because most people don’t even realize that Samsung, Olympus, and Panasonic even make cameras.
I hate to say it but the other camera companies better start investing more into Advertising and getting their entire line of cameras in stores like Best Buy. It doesn’t matter how good your product is. Not enough people will buy it if they don’t even know it exists.
I think mpgxsvcd is on about the perception that Canon is best not that they actually are.
Friends of mine who know little about cameras who have bought a consumer level d-slr have all bar one defaulted to Canon.
The odd one out bought a Pentax but that was only because her husband had one from years ago and had a couple of lenses that fitted.
If Canon are not producing the best cameras the only explanation for this kind of purchasing pattern must be marketing and the perception that results being "You want a 'proper' camera? Buy a Canon".
Howard Moftich: Welcome to capitalism. Charge what you think the market will pay. In this case, Canon is obviously sitting on a warehouse full of them so they need to get rid of them as their value is decreasing by them sitting unsold.
There is reasonable profit and there is exploitation. Are you defending the latter?
Matt1645f4: The Rumour site that released this sory before the offical announcement also had detail of a Canon 5Ds with 50.6 MegaPixel sensor made by Sony.
There is more to sensors than pixel count but Sony currently makes the best sensors regardless of pixel count. From 16mp aps-c up to 38mp FF they deliver excellent DR as well.
That is ambiguous grammar.
Is that supposed to mean the camera has hardly been improved over the previous version (as in little improvement) or is a small camera that has had improvements made to it?
"Small, improved" is less ambiguous if you are going to adopt a spartan headline and use a comma instead of a "but" or an "and".
RichRMA: I don't know. Phone reviews before plenty of good real cameras have been reviewed? Might as well review restaurants or movies.
Barney, the resources and money (salaries) could be deployed elsewhere i.e. on DPR.
So your statement is false.
Kiril Karaatanasov: Did not Tamron notice that A7 Sony cameras except the A7 m2 lack built in stabilization ......there are not so many a99s floating around relative to the number of A7 cameras
Price and specs are very attractive. I would wait for a test or two to show up before buying. Seems a cheap affordable compromise lens rather than outstanding lens by the price tag.
Plastek I think you will find with Sigma some of the Sigma lenses that have stabilisation also offer it in A-mount but not all of them.
I can't remember which lens it was but I am sure a fairly recent release from Sigma had OSS disabled, unlike my Sigma 105mm which has it.
The focal length range is very useful. On APS-C i use a Sony 11-18 which is similar. Usefully wider then the 16mm on my CZ 16-80.
The problem with the Tamron though is with it being a FF lens is size and weight.
I can't help thinking if I was a FF user I'd be happier with a 24-105 zoom complimented by a 17mm prime lens for the wide angle forgoing the flexibility of the zoom.
Does anyone make a 17mm FF prime these days? It all seems to be zooms which are large and expensive.
Every third party lens for Sony is not unstabilized. The latest Sigma 105mm macro lens has OSS in Sony mount.
I know, I own one and use it on my A77.
You have a choice and can either use the OSS in the lens or the IBIS in the body but you do have to remember not to use both at once.
Mind you I have never tried both on at once. Maybe I should to see what happens!
Some Sony users get very annoyed with Tamron who do remove OSS from all their Sony mount lenses. It doesn't bother me as IBIS works very well.
One of the arguments in favour of OSS lenses is you get a stabilized image through the viewfinder. On the latest A77MkII it can even give you a stabilized view in the EVF when you use IBIS so even that advantage has gone.
munro harrap: Very disturbing article and comments, since all machines should be identical. If there is variation in even the placement of the AF module, in a thing you have had to pay £1700 for! the flare will be worse and the autofocus all the time will be inaccurate- return it for a FULL REFUND anytime within the two year warranty period: you are entitled to your money back as it does not work as it should because, among other things, it has not even been put together properly.
One wonders how many D800 owners complaining about autofocussing problems may have incorrect camera construction as a reason.
Very disturbing too that Dpreview aren't bothered......
@Rishi Sanyal I think you are arguing over semantics here regarding the use of the word identical.
If some 750's don't flare, then when don't they all behave like that? That is identically in that respect. Flare free.
It is obviously possible to make a camera without the flare issue (D4S) and if some 750's do flare and others do not, how can you be confident in your purchase?
If varying module placement does exist in other cameras that means other cameras are equally bad. Ir does not excuse Nikon or anyone else from building and selling a camera that may flare.