Super486: 645Z for landscape/portraits and K-3 for action would be a great combo!
Guess it seems the guys shooting sports and wildlife professionally with the K-3 are also utter nonsense...
shaocaholica: Why is the body so long? Flange back is ~7cm. Seems like they could have made it ~2cm shorter.
I'm sure you are far more competent in this manner than Ricoh's own engineers.
People make sure you scroll to image 8 ;)
turvyT: I think that the AF test made with any dslr or mirrorless would produce similar or worse results. If the biker alters the height of his head or chest or the photographer moves some inches the camera, some parts of his shirt can easily come into or loose focus. Regarding dpreview testers not liking K3 jpeg colors, as many have said, is a matter of taste. I don't have a K3, but in Flickr one can easily see that Pentax colors are probably the nicest, reds included. And if we all use our tastes to rate others, we could begin really beating on the general quality of dpreview samples. I any case, being a Nikon user I find their jpeg colors tend to the cold palette. I wouldn't judge that as a con, neither the warm Pentax tendency.
>whose very design suggests that the intention was to simply prove the stereotype.
But that would mean that DPR were biased against Pentax...
photosen: Great review; it's a monster of a camera, and just the thing to appease any concerns over the Ricoh take over. Who would have thought Pentax king of the APS-C lineup (if probably not sales)?
Pentax has been king of the APS-C lineup since the K-5 - the K-3 just further solidifies that lead ;)
wisep01: Some people here have the gall to assert that the D7100, the camera that single-handedly rewrote the dictionary definition of "pathetic," is in the same league as the K-3. As a Nikon user, trust me, it most certainly is not!
K-3 continuous shooting: 8.3 fps; buffer size: 23 shotsD7100 continuous shooting: 5.9fps; buffer size: 6 shots (yes, I double-checked)
And that's just one of the many areas where the D7100 falls so very short.
>IBIS is not a plus on a DSLr. It's a defnite minus, handicapping the AF and metering sensors, particularly at longer focal lengths where the view looks like an earthquake through a knothole. No coincidence that the AF tracking isn't very good. IBIS on a DSLR is really a very bad bargain and leaves the Pentax at a definite disadvantage.
You really have not the slightest clue of what you are talking about. Not even remotely.
hydrospanner: In this section:
Pentax fanboys who've spent the last few months whining about no K-3 review switching over to whining about the K-3 review.
Jeez, for a bunch that wanted so badly to know what the folks at DPR thought of the thing, it really looks like you were only waiting to pick them apart and tell them why they're wrong for disagreeing with you.
For as much as the average Pentax evangelist seems to want to convert Canon & Nikon users, the way they've earned a reputation as the biggest whiners makes me never even want to give Pentax a try if it means I'll turn into that!
I'm slowly starting to figure out what I'll do if/when my D300 kicks the bucket and there's no D400...I was leaning K-3 for a while, but with the way the users seem to be compensating for something, I might rather go m43...they're bad, but they're not AS bad...
@Eli Allan - 100% you hit the nail on the head.
A200Eric: Thank God. Now we can move from "dpreview hates pentax because they refuse to review the k3" to "dpreview hates pentax because wrote an unfair review." YAY!
> I don't think it's a need to justify their purchase so much as a desire not to see the little guy squished, or the company quelled, when they've found it has great merit, unique usefulness, and even drives some of the innovation in the industry.
D1N0: Strangely you have set this in semi-pro like the K-5, but the K-5 II(s) is in mid level. This is a direct competitor for de Nikon D7100 and de Canon 70D, which are in mid level. Maybe semi-pro should start a bit lower. K-3 D7100 70D A77 OMD-EM1 , X-pro1.
So AF is up to date but the lenses aren't? Great con people. But There are also sigma and tamron alternatives out there for Pentax and not all pentax lenses are slow (and not all of them are even meant to be fast). Guess you needed a replacement for de no longer missing dedicated movie button ;).
What's interesting is that DPR criticizes Pentax for its lenses in a camera review when it comes to the AF ability of the system.
But never mentions the Limiteds when it comes to the IQ, uniqueness, and plain joy to shoot in the most compact package of any DSLR system made.
Retzius: I can't believe you ended the review with this:
"It's not a camera to change systems for, but it's well worth upgrading to, and good enough to make the Pentax system worth considering if you have no existing commitments."
In effect, you are bluntly saying "don't buy this camera if you are a Nikon or Canon user."
Nikon and Canon will be happy now :)
>What, exactly, could the owner of a Canon of Nikon system accomplish, that would would not be possible unless they switched to Pentax?
Weather sealing? In kit lenses?Ergonomics?APS-C camera with APS-C lenses, not FF behemoths?In-Body Image Stabilization?AF all-metal lenses?
Need I go on?
Heie2: Also, for how long this review took, this might just be the slimmest and most empty review DPR has published in such a long time.
Gives off the impression of "FFS, just publish the damn thing already."
I really had high hopes DPR would finally get it right...
I am well aware of what it takes write an in-depth review, and also the nuances to do so in order to conduct autofocus comparisons. I invite you to read here, which I wrote in its entirety: http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/hd-pentax-da-55-300mm/autofocus.html Just that one page is what I'm pointing you to, but if you still feel I am not competent enough to judge your effort, I invite you to read that entire review.
I acknowledge that it took longer than you thought. The above took me 3 months as opposed to the 1 I thought it would. I also acknowledge the delayed start, much to my chagrin and dismay.
But what I still don't understand is the 70D and the D7100 really don't compare to the K-3 and yet to the uninformed and easily impressionable, the perception you've reinforced is that the K-3 barely matches and ultimately lags the other two, when that is absolute garbage. "Pentax D400" or "Pentax 7DII," as you ignored.
I once respected DPR as the photographic authority. No more, Sir.
70D - 83%D7100 - 85%
Pentax K-3.....same score as 70D and inferior to D7100...
Ok, so they didn't find value in the AA simulator. Truth be told, I've never used it once myself. But that doesn't take away it's genius and intrigue towards professional shooters who do encounter moire a lot (wedding, fashion, etc.), especially now with its auto-1-shot-bracket function.
But what about pure raw photographic capability of the camera? Build quality should have been maxed out. Bar none. Squeeze a D7100 and you can hear the plastic creak. K-3? I feel like I could bang nails in with it.
Performance? And the D7100's class-leading 6 RAW buffer does better.
Ergonomics and Handling, again should have been maxed out. The only reason the K-3 hasn't sold more than it already has is because it's hard to play with in person (Pentax's fault, not DPR's). But ask anyone who held both? Pentax ergonomics are best in the business.
Not recommended for: those looking to travel light"
Please - with the Limited lenses the Pentax system isn't much bigger than M4/3 offerings, w/ better IQ.
Also, for how long this review took, this might just be the slimmest and most empty review DPR has published in such a long time.
Doug Janis: The market's worst selling mirrorless system with the lowest IQ.
You really have no idea what you are talking about.
I'm a Pentax fan, and while I prefer the WG series, the first to allow RAW shooting will get my money.
RAW. IN. AN. EVERYTHING-PROOF. P&S.
whawha: ..and it is, of course, a "residents of the US" only competition. Very silly and surprisingly narrow minded marketing from Ricoh.
Ricoh to give away cameras in a competition HOSTED by CNN...
More and more reading comprehension is a lost art these days...
Look, I'm not saying it's right, and I agree with "U.S. residents only" is way more ubiquitous than it should be, but blame CNN. Not Ricoh.
As well as the international laws that require heavy customs fees/paperwork to allow something like this to permeate beyond one border. This is often not the will of the sponsor(s) but rather the stipulations given to them.
RichRMA: Will be interesting to see if people get more than the usual skateboarders that Gopro hacks image. Send one up 80,000 ft in a balloon. That hasn't been worn out yet.
That's why it's called 'space.' If there was anything out there it would be called 'stuff.'
You mean from "Ricoh Imaging America" ?
And CNN is the host, which is a US entity...
Low Battery: Will dpreview ever finish the K3 Review? or will they just keep releasing a new page each month??
"Let's give them some space.After many months of hardcore complaining and yelling the dpreview is really on to it."