DPR does unboxings now? o.O
Nukunukoo: While not a Pentax user, I do agree how DPR is bordering to WTF as to why they take to spend (and waste) a lot of time on Canikon even on extremely insignificant model upgrades and ignores celebrated cameras like Pentax K3 whose combination of features are quite unique and leading in its class.
Shame really, DPR, was there a change in management as to why many feedbacks from your user base seem to be falling on deaf ears?
>Had I been a Pentax shooter, I would have been SOL.
Many Pentax DSLR's are AA-battery compatible. Just sayin' ;)
@Nukunukoo - agree with everything you've said in this comment thread.
So it's *exactly* the same, but with a couple extremely minor differences. Essentially the EXACT same.
Well so is the Pentax K-50/K-500 from the Pentax K-30 for the most part except a new body and the entry (K-500) and mid-entry/consumer (K-50) differentiation to the product line.
The point being, the review would be extremely easy and quick, just like the D610 must have been. But, there's one thing that is most curious...
D610 Annoucement: October 8th, 2013D610 Review Complete: March 12th, 2014 (124 days)
K-50/K-500 Announcement: June 12th, 2013K-50/K-500 Review Complete: 273 days and counting...
DPR: Fair and Balanced.
BFD: Does it work with Windows 8 pc and phones? The article oly mentions Safari or Chrome but not Windows.
Something to keep in mind is that it's browser based, not app based.
Greg VdB: It's exactly five months ago that the K-3 First Impressions article was posted on DPR. Good to see that the wireless control app had priority over the full camera review...
>it doesn't offer anything new or innovative enough to get a quick review.
There's so many class-leading features I'd run out of characters, but let's just address your quote above:
- First AA filter OPTION in the industry?- Multi-Segment Auto White Balance?
Not trying to be combative, but yea...the K-3 is definitely a qualifier for "new or innovative." Especially compared against the 70D (Innovation - Dual Pixel AF) and the D7100 (crickets....crickets...5-6 shot buffer...)
select: this is useless, why don't you put a built in wifi? In this way you can transfer only files which are in the Flucard, but you can't browse and transfer those in the other standard SD card... and also the Flucard 16gb costs $100 or more... this is crazy...
Agreed that it should allow the option of browsing the other SD card - perhaps a firmware fix. But the bigger issue is the extra cost.
It gives those who want the wifi capability the option and those who don't want/need it the option to go without it. Without paying for it.
And it's in the SD card, so the outstanding Pentax weather sealing isn't compromised by the use of an external dongle.
I don't see how this is a negative.
-You want it? Small upgrade cost (7% of camera body cost)-I don't want it? No money wasted on a function never to be used.
Mazhe: So, no interview with Pentax representatives? Too bad, I would have liked a Q/A session in the same vein of the others...
That would require the cessation of disenfranchising Pentax/Ricoh.
ragmanjin: Kicking the dead horse again here but this camera, too, was released later than the Pentax K-3. When is that review slotted for again?It would be nice if reviews happened in chronological order rather than by preference. At the least it would save you a lot of back-peddling and accusations of favouritism.Just my two cents.-Raj
>but ... its not a Sony or Canon or Nikon.
There it is.
Photographer Jonathan: I can't wait to hear how it performs, I am hoping it's super sharp with amazing contrast, and it gives the Otus a run for it's money, I am also hoping that the price is similar to the old Sigma 50 witch I own, they should advertise it as the Canon L killer because i'm sure it will be better than the 50 L witch is over priced and under performs, The Canon 50 1.4 is nice just because of it's small size and weight, I wish Sony could make a 50 1.4 the same size for there A7/A7r, I also want to see a new Sigma 24/70 f2.8 IS, or f2, the only thing I wish is that Sigma was making there new lenses weather sealed, that is the only place that Canon has an edge, but image quality is first priority, I love my Sigma 35 f1.4 Art lens, and I also love my Sigma 85 f1.4 that I bought for 1/3 the price of the Canon 85 L, and for me it wasn't about the money, I would of bought the Canon if I thought it was better, but I couldn't deal with the slow focusing, anyway, go Sigma, and lookout Canon and Nikon
> it'll be almost impossible to take photo in dust storm or heavy rain.
Sorry but this is just absolutely false. I take my Pentax's into the rain all the time. HEAVY rain (and snow, sleet, mud, etc.). Will the images win awards for sharpness/clarity? No, of course not. But they are still taken, without any damage to the equipment, and time after time after time it has proven to not be impossible.
And I have photographed in dust storms as well while in Afghanistan. You really don't know what you are talking about.
audiobomber: The K-3 is a better photographic tool than the EM-1, with higher resolution, lower noise, broader dynamic range, switchable blur filter, -3EV sensitivity, three f2.8 AF points, dual card slots, more capable AF-C and tracking.
The EM-5 beat the D800E in this same poll. That says more about the number of m4/3 fanboys around here than it does about the cameras.
>Have you ever handled E-M1 and K-3 ?
I have never handled a Pentax 645D yet I know it wipes the floor of all the camera's IQ listed here. Look up "Straw Man Fallacy" and that would explain the applicability of your ridiculous question.
Fact is, the K-3 is a *FAR* more capable and professional photographic tool than anything with an APS-C sensor and smaller. This is fact. Not fanboyism.
No one is saying the E-M1 is a bad camera. It's not. Except weight, there's nothing about it that really trumps the K-3, whereas the K-3 is LOADED with features that all around trounces the E-M1, AND AT A LOWER MSRP.
Seriously - put the kool-aid down. It's OK to be objective once in a while.
Ben O Connor: I am a micro43user... But Folks....
is the OMD-EM1 that good? Even better than APS-C sensor? Smilar sized to a DSLR as capable without mirror ?
Thanks to GH-3, mirrorless is already very capable video maker... But em1's price... Size... COMPARE TO K-3 !?
oh come on ...
@BorisAkunin...had to do a double take to make sure I understood you correctly. Well played ;)
robbo d: Interesting result. Pentax users are traditionally supportive, but this seems to go above and beyond that. Now is the time for Pentax to cement this result and continue to build their sales and marketing game, plus a few new serious 'system' products to continue the momentum.
As a very heavily invested Pentax user, I concur.
What's interesting is that K-01 is beloved by those who actually have one...
And caver3d...saying "What part of it's better do you not understand?" is not really compelling. I'm a Pentax 'fanboy', got it. But I can at least present reasons that are fact in a lucid manner. Not spew "JUST VOTE FOR K-3 BECAUSE IT'S BEST DAMMIT!" nonsense.
E-M1 is a great camera. But it is mainly a slightly better E-M5 (which admittedly was and is also a very capable camera). Claiming it trumps the K-3 is nothing short of fanboy delusional-ism at its worst.
Ciprian: Although I'm probably going to buy a K-3 the thing is I'll do it because Sigma decided to include the Pentax mount for its 18-35; so my choice is clear.
Agree. And it's best on Pentax thanks to the In-Body Image Stabilization that affords it for every lens you mount ;)
jorden mosley: Of the ones listed, I picked the k-3. It just had so many more impressive innovations than any of the cameras on the list. The x100s, rx100 II and em1 seem to be glorified updates of previous models (x100, rx100 and em5 respectively). The Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 is indeed a engineering marvel, but the application of it with it's odd focal length range is a drawback. I'm no Pentax fanboy (NEX/M43 user) but I gotta give them props for going all out with the k-3.
>Always likes his own posts.
Was not aware you could do that? o.O
But seriously...is the libel necessary, especially when there are more than "1" next to my posts.
And I'm glad I crack you up. I'd be concerned if I was misleading anyone...
With all Pentax DSLR's of the past several generations (K-3, K-5 IIs, K-5, K-50, K-500, K-30, K-7) it is, to include entry level cameras ;)
> but how exactly is K-3 "going all out"?
Weather sealing?Magnesium Alloy Body? (not the D7000/7100 'panel' nonsense)24 mpx Resolution?AA filter *OPTION* ?Smallest pro-body size?100% Pentaprism ?8.3 fps?23 RAW buffer ?Headphone monitoring jack?Wireless tethering via Pentax FLU wifi card?Dual SD slots?Multi-segment AWB?200,000 guaranteed shutter duration?Quietest shutter in the entire DSLR industry?86,000 segment metering system?AF down to -3 eV, including other than *center* point?Metering down to -3eV?25 Crosstype AF points?Weather sealed battery grip option?UHS-1 Capability?USB 3.0?Guaranteed freeze-proof down to -10 Deg Cel?In-Body Image Stabilization?Sensor-shifting astro-tracker capability?AF- fine tune, for individual lenses and/or apply to all lenses?AF button?
www.camerasize.com doesn't have Pentax's new 20-40 Limited zoom, but it's more comparable in size. Also, keep in mind the 43mm prime has its lens hood extended, so feel free to cut the length of the lens in half. Camera size also doesn't have Pentax's 9mm thick 40mm f/2.8 prime - the thinnest in the industry.
Got it, there are smaller lenses for M4/3, that's *expected*. But nothing is being dwarfed.
Other than the value of the E-M1 by that of the K-3.
D1N0: Olympus will win. more fanboys. But no mickey mouse sensor camera deserves the title imho.
While the K-3 is heavier (and arguably vying for the best built DSLR money can buy, yes including the D4), it is not much bigger(1.1mm, 6.5mm and 14.5mm in length, height, depth, respectively), yet trounces the specs of the E-M1. Not to mention, Pentax's prime line-up don't cause M4/3 lenses to be dwarfed by them. Here's one comparison: http://camerasize.com/compact/#485.83,482.346,ha,t
How is a full frame lens smaller than a M4/3 lens of same focal length and size? AND lack aperture ring?
And then there's all features the K-3 has that make the E-M1 a non-contender between the two cameras.
For cameras, it's the K-3. Period.For lenses, the 18-35 f/1.8. Period.
The K-3 is not much bigger(1.1mm, 6.5mm and 14.5mm in length, height, depth, respectively), yet trounces the specs of the E-M1. Not to mention, Pentax's prime line-up don't cause M4/3 lenses to be dwarfed by them. Here's one comparison: http://camerasize.com/compact/#485.83,482.346,ha,t
For cameras, it's the K-3. Period. For lenses, the 18-35 f/1.8. Period.
Mr. O'Connor, your ability to see reason is valued.