Madaboutpix: Having shot my K-7 for nearly five years now (without a single malfunction), a couple of days ago I finally ordered a standard K-3 to replace it. Given that I passed by the K-5 and K-5 IIs, I'm fairly confident that I will see some improvement over my old camera. And I don't feel cheated now just because Ricoh has come up with this Prestige Edition. When I'm out and about shooting, I usually try to blend in, rather than draw attention to myself. After all, I want people to act naturally, almost as if I wasn't there.
Still, this is clever marketing on Ricoh's side: You get into the news, you may interest some more people for a serious camera who appreciate the good looks, and then may grow to love it for what it is capable of as a photographic tool. At this price point it cannot even be dismissed as rip-off, and I agree that the gunmetal-grey styling bespeaks some taste.
I really do believe the negative hype is overblown. But, humans are irrational beings :(
I have bought LOTS used and even a refurbished here and there. No issues. Sometimes used lenses can be great deals - premium lens that someone decides they just don't use as much as they thought they would - almost brand new for much cheaper.
And so a military brat of the German variety :) I really do miss it and can't wait to return. Hence why I made sure to import a small piece of Germany (and the in-laws in two weeks!) :D
And thank you for the compliments!
My pleasure, and thanks for the compliments :)
I agree on the focus towards QC. Agree 100%. But I do think that it isn't as bad as the internet makes it out to be ;)
And woher kommst du aus Deutschland? I lived in Bamberg for 3.5 years with the Army, and met my German wife (kommt aus Stuttgart). Wish I was there - never wanted to leave :(
And I just got the smc 15...haven't shot with it though. I was given the Sigma 18-35 f/1.8 "Art" to review for PF, so that's what I've been focusing on immediately since sending back the 18-135 :)
In case you haven't seen my Finnish Military Training photo essay, that might be an interesting read to you. 40 images, 100% shot with the 18-135 :) Go to www DOT alexjansenphotography DOT com and it's on the PHOTO ESSAYS page :)
I'd recommend selling all the 18-55 versions you have and go straight to the 18-135 WR. I know it's a bit expensive (should have got them together as the bundle!), but it really is better than the 18-55 in every. single. way.
In the in-depth review I mentioned above for PF, I also compared the 18-135 against the 18-55, and there was literally not a single aspect the 18-55 did better. At best, it barely tied.
Also, and this was a surprise - the 18-135's aperture is *the same or faster* at any given focal length than the 18-55 despite the same variable aperture range. I would have thought since the 18-55 is a smaller range it would be the other way around, but not the case. Like I said - I was not expecting that. In fact, the 18-135 doesn't hit f/5.6 until AFTER 70mm!
As for the 18-55 variants, the L and the WR are the same, except the L doesn't come with a hood and has a plastic mount. Also, it lacks quick-shift (ability to grab the focus ring and manually focus while in AF mode).
Yea it doesn't come with the 3.0 cable. It certainly should, but when you can get them for $5 off Amazon, it's but a minor inconvenience.
And you might have gotten the K-3 + 18-135 WR then. I just finished the in-depth review for Pentax Forums (15 pages baby!), but it hasn't been published yet. It's one of my criticisms of the lens. But because the focus ring is so thin, it's not a pleasure to use (another criticism) - you will find yourself using that lens in AF mode 99% of the time, so I wouldn't worry about it too much. But yes - a distance scale would certainly have been appreciated for the more advanced users.
The shutter is just gorgeous, isn't it? I thought mine was broken the first time I heard it from how smooth and muffled it was :D
For metering, I recommend using the MULTI-SEGMENT AWB. you can find it under the AWB icon.
And yes, Pentax has long offered in-camera highlight/shadow correction. I don't have them (or the others) activated because I am a RAW shooter only.
For me it's because Pentax offers the best value for the dollar bar none, especially when combined with excellent ergonomics, build quality, and the overall compact size of the system physically.
Everything else you mentioned is a sweet, sweet bonus :D
Much appreciated, and likewise.
The wait will be worth it ;)
I have the K-7, K-5 IIs, and the K-3. If you skipped the K-5 series and went straight from the 7 to the 3....the first time you look at the first, make sure you are strapped into your chair...
And I thought the sexiest camera ever made couldn't be any sexier.
mosc: I thought it would be f2.8-f4, like the sped up 55-200 they offer. This is just a double price pentax lens. I'm sure it will be a little sharper throughout than the pentax version (which is a much older lens to be fair), I just think Fuji at it's best is pushing APS-C past the capabilities of it's competitors offering a nice niche between the APS and FF products of other lines.
With no FF system to worry about, Fuji's focus on APS-C should mean they can beat the standard offerings. Fuji's a little more expensive but that makes sense if they're delivering brighter apertures on the same size sensor.
2.8-4.0 vs 3.5-5.6 is a difference.
3.5-4.8 vs 4.0-5.6? Negligible.
ck139: "The Pentax 18-135WR has poor optical quality".Really? You have used one? My copy at least has perfectly acceptable optical quality. Is it as good as a wide aperture prime lens? No. If the Fuji version has even better optical quality than the Pentax then that will be excellent.
Everyone that has a Pentax 18-135 WR knows that the photozone review of the 18-135 WR is incompatible with reality.
The 18-135 WR isn't prime sharp, but it's a phenomenal lens for what it does, especially when stopped down.
waxwaine: "But if it's a DSLR-shaped thing that you need..."
Traduction: If you want to waste 600usd, don´t know what you want as a camera except that is something to hang on you neck to convince yourself and other fools you know photography, run to this cr6p. If you it´s not your case, runaway from this cr6p.
Clearly you are smoking something phenomenal.
Retzius: The D3300 is a tidy little camera but I don't think they can keep offering the same thing over and over again anymore. My guess is the D3400 is where we will see the EVF/OVF jump.
At this size and form factor mirrorless is really the best option. The target buyer for this camera really has nothing to gain by purchasing a OVF Dslr. 90% of the folks who buy this camera never even change the lens or print an image. For all the boasting about APS sensor performance and OLPF filter removal these things don't even pertain to most of the images these cameras will ever make.
At this price point, $650, you can get much much more for your money. Heck, you can get the Pentax K500 with lens for $399 and it actually has useful features like a large 100% viewfinder with a high eye point and the ability to use AA batteries if you run out of batteries at Disneyland. 16mp images may actually be better for this target segment as the files are a bit smaller and take up less room on the card.
BarnET - the HD 55-300 is much better than the 70-300, while being smaller, much wider (55 vs 70mm), and weather sealed - the only consumer telezoom on the market be sealed. And as Retzius mentioned - every lens is stabilized on your Pentax.
There are some missing lenses, sure. Every mount could argue that. But I entirely disagree with you that the bodies have the wrong mount. The K mount offers the best value for money on the market presently for the beginner through advanced amateur. Only when niche needs are paramount (tilt-shift, super fast tele, both prime and zoom, extreme macro, and FF DOF control) does it presently fall short, and I won't argue that. But I wouldn't trade my K mount (bodies/lenses) for anything Canikon offers because for my needs (travel and documentary photography in lightweight and cost effective manner) the Pentax system as it stands today trumps the hell out of Canikon's offerings. And that's without focusing on features like IBIS and weather sealing.
DaytonR: What an interesting camera , Nikon has raised the bar for entry level SLR`s. Its amazing how much cameras have come in a few years !
Rofl - nice one.
As someone that uses both 16 and 24 mpx (K-3 and K-5 IIs/K-30, the latter is identical to the K-50), there are inherent benefits to the 16 mpx sensor over the 24 for those that do not need it (i.e. beginners).
16 is not "yesterday's APS-C news" you fool. Especially when this segment is just looking for a better camera than their iPhone to put on facebook (which, in case you didn't know, is 1.5 mpx at MAX).
Also, don't forget the K-50's offering over the K-500 - full weather sealing.
All canikon entry/mid-entry level cameras are a pathetic joke compared to the K-50/K-500's features. 24 mpx is apparently the only thing 'better' and that's a con imo for this segment.
And what do you mean the wrong mount? You can keep your behemoth lenses and I'll keep my Limiteds and weather sealed lenses ;)
Super486: 645Z for landscape/portraits and K-3 for action would be a great combo!
Guess it seems the guys shooting sports and wildlife professionally with the K-3 are also utter nonsense...
shaocaholica: Why is the body so long? Flange back is ~7cm. Seems like they could have made it ~2cm shorter.
I'm sure you are far more competent in this manner than Ricoh's own engineers.
People make sure you scroll to image 8 ;)
turvyT: I think that the AF test made with any dslr or mirrorless would produce similar or worse results. If the biker alters the height of his head or chest or the photographer moves some inches the camera, some parts of his shirt can easily come into or loose focus. Regarding dpreview testers not liking K3 jpeg colors, as many have said, is a matter of taste. I don't have a K3, but in Flickr one can easily see that Pentax colors are probably the nicest, reds included. And if we all use our tastes to rate others, we could begin really beating on the general quality of dpreview samples. I any case, being a Nikon user I find their jpeg colors tend to the cold palette. I wouldn't judge that as a con, neither the warm Pentax tendency.
>whose very design suggests that the intention was to simply prove the stereotype.
But that would mean that DPR were biased against Pentax...
photosen: Great review; it's a monster of a camera, and just the thing to appease any concerns over the Ricoh take over. Who would have thought Pentax king of the APS-C lineup (if probably not sales)?
Pentax has been king of the APS-C lineup since the K-5 - the K-3 just further solidifies that lead ;)