Hopefully this leads to Sony sensors in Canon bodies. But I doubt it.
Shiranai: Now that I've tried it out I really don't know why they charged $150 for that anyways. After all it's just a bunch of filters that almost every smarthphone app offers for free. Although I really like the area correction feature, I get better results working only in lightroom/camera raw.Almost all give your picture that filtered look. And thats something I'd rather avoid.
Are you serious? Have you tried say Viveza???And SilverFX does a lot better job and has a lot more control than smartphone filters!Smartsharpen which can be targeted to only affect certain colors or lights/darks super easily is pretty handy too.
kiss any future support good buy
another product killed by google, they just raided it for something else
boarderphreak: ¿People still use Flickr? :D
Yeah, for one they don't ban wide gamut image hosting like Smugmug or Zenfolio. They actually get that people sometimes know what they are doing and want and need to host some photos and galleries in whatever gamut they so chose and are not total Luddites.
Worst 'feature' ever. It came turned on as default for phones and tablets and made a total disaster on first use.
If anything, they might get money for people to pay to be rid of it.
Jim Salvas: I mistakenly let that auto uploader take over and it uploaded thousand of template and system images. It's a pain to have to delete them and now my private photostream is clogged with lots of pics of patterns, blue skies, textures and such. I'd pay a little to get Flickr to autodelete them.
Exactly it's a nightmare 'feature'.
photoshack: I have it, have had Pro before, and don't know any actual Pros that use it. The uploader is annoying as it is trying to suck up any card or device it sees...not my style.
Even worse on phones and tablets it tries to grab everything, even stupid screen caps and other junk you don't want up on flicker and it just tries to grab it all and bog and clog everything down and then make tons of stuff for you to go back and delete.
It's awful. The very last thing most people want.
Kamox: What I read, filtering the official blurb: "we make tons of money by making the smallest incremental changes which make you buy our mature products. When we'll start to see losses ahead, we'll give you the goddamn mirrorless cameras."
YUp we won't give 4k until sales totally tank, nor improve DR, nor give basic trivial firmware features, etc.
We give absolutely as little as we can, even to the point of alienating a decent chunk of the user base, but just long as we don't quite, quite go that one extra millimeter so far that everyone does leave in droves, we have done a perfect job
the thing is playing that game, eventually, eventually usually bites you
Matt1645f4: My first DSLR was the 30D and I loved it and was a great camera but Canons sensors just don't produce the goods. They have fallen so far behind they are going to take longer and longer to develop their next generation how long did customers have to put up with 18mp when 16mp from Pentax, Nikon and Sony were far better and I can't see anything in the 24mp I've looked at on flickr that would make me consider buying a Canon again.
Yeah I shoot Canon SLR and DSLR, 100% exclusively since the 1980s but I now actually use my Sony body far more than my Canon body. Pretty sad.
Everlast66: I just read one question/answer and didn't need to read more.
Q:"Some of our readers were disappointed that the 80D does not include 4K video. Why did you decide not to include this feature?"
A:"As you know, in our DSLR lineup we incorporate both video functions and traditional stills DSLR functions."
Man, what a start, is this guy retarded? Of course the interviewer knows, he just asked why there is no 4K ?
"We’re promoting our DSLRs as providing both stills and video features - the best of both worlds, you might say."
Or maybe not!? He was just told that people are DISAPPOINTED that the D80, that's not even shipped yet, is missing a feature, that's been available in competing products for a while.Then with the last sentence he admits what they've done.
"Then, with the aim of increasing the user base, we add movie features to this established stills shooting feature set."
Basically, more of the same, we're safe for the next 5 years. This guy is in denial of whats happening.
@vscd - i dont like one tool for each job since it costs thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars more that way and it's a mega-pain to lug around three different rigs all day long and with all flight restrictions on baggage these days it's not even easily feasible.
And how many extra buttons have been added for video? What did the 5D3 add extra? ONE, yes ONE, toggle switch to swap live view to video mode and back. wow, what a horror to suffer from that toggle switch surrounding the liveivew button
PhotoDiod: Speaking of respect, I get a feeling that Mr Tokura has little respect for what we call 'enthusiast' market, choosing to steer conversation to professional equipment and requirements.
I am not a pro, but I do want to be able to fly a larger than 1" sensor on a pistol grip gimbal while shooting 120fps HD for slow motion. Because it is 2016. With Canon, I can't.
Why do I want Mr Tokura to give me an idea if this is going to happen any time soon? Because I have invested thousands of dollars and my trust in his brand and its promise of customer dedication. Too much to ask?
(and he literally did use the term "we are the kings of the hill" repeatedly and literally did say we have no need to bother!)
Right then I knew Canon was headed down a sad path and the old innovating Canon we all knew and loved was in trouble. It tried to spread the word BEFORE it really came to be but got called a pathetic Canon-hating troll. Nobody believe me when I said they'd be way behind in sensor and other tech for the money before long. You could just tell from their attitude they were a company that had been on top too long and become way too full of itself.
@Caerolle - too true. They don't I still remember a photo show in Europe held before Nikon even had a FF DSLR yet and the Canon rep was so smug it was sickening. Every time they asked him if Canon planned to ever produce a FF camera that had more speed performance or anything new he was like ahahahhaha we are kings of the hill, we a on top, we have no need, who else have FF, nobody!, Nikon is at least a decade behind (they came out with FF like a year later!), we have no need, we are king of the hill, we are Canon and if anyone does somehow unexpectedly challenge us we are prepared for anything and can instantly be the best, we are the kings why do we need to do that? ahahahah why? we are the kings.
Zdman: I realise DPreview is going for a certain response but its funny that the people commenting the most here don't realise what a niche market they are. At least half (I would wager more) of the market are women who amazingly have better things to do all day than moan why 4k wasn't included in the 80D. They buy a camera and take pictures (better than most here) and Canon gives them the exact camera that they want. Sony is playing to the enthusiast and making cameras for them and starting to make some good money from it (good for them). Most of the commenters here would be moaning at Honda and Toyota for not making a car that competes with the latest Porsche.
Really so women never shoot in anything but easy natural lighting conditions or under studio lighting? And, being women, of course they have lousy eyes and couldn't tell 480P from 2160P and of course they are too dumb to realize all the tricks 4k can be used for even in a 2k workflow.
Elaka Farmor: Tokura has realized that the average Canon DSLR buyer is totalt ignorant (or stupid) and most likely will buy A Canon anyway.
Sadly this may be the case. Just look what happens if you post anything about pushing Canon forwards. You get driven out of any forum (perhaps you can hang on in DPR, but forget places like Fred Miranda these days, you'll be burned at the stake as they cheer on another 1080P release in 2025 and the same old DR in 2080).
Oh and his for his firmware talk, well funny how ML was able to get only about 100% higher video quality out of the 5D3 Canon than Canon dared give us and only were able to fix AutoISO (which was trivial BTW), add intervol, add focus peaking, zebras, 1:1 video focusing box, true RAW histograms, auto-ETTR and on and on and on.
Well that was utterly useless. And he didn't even mention a peep about DR, just about MP counts increasing and regular SNR increasing.
And he sure didn't offer any legit reason regarding 4k other than they either got caught sleeping and can't manage it yet or don't care to offer it since they still want to give as little as possible for the money unless sales totally tank (which he probably is not afraid of since most Canon users seem to be uber fanboys who will lap up anything at any price).
zero sector: most overprocessed and oversaturated picture won. I don't even call it a photo.
@zero sector - yeah because nothing that has more than 6 stops can be a photo, anything dark must be pitch black, exactly as the eye saw it, and anything bright must be totally blown out and pure white, just as the eye always sees anything remotely bright. in fact one should simply post only linear capture RAWs since the eye itself is of course a direct linear capture device.yeah sure.
bronxbombers4: And STILL not a peep about improved dynamic range!
well at least the new AF may be nicebut man they still just don't want to bother, still in hold back and milk mode
Measure the standard deviation in the masked area of the frame and plug the value into a DR formula.
anyone have an ISO RAW file taken with a lens f/2.8 or slower? can tell if they really fixed the low ISO DR in like 3 seconds, if so.