bronxbombers4: George Lepp: " The dynamic range when working on the files in Canon’s DPP and Photoshop CC 2014 was quite good and pretty much matches my EOS 7D MKII."
There appeared to be perhaps be further confirmation that the RAW files are always a large 60MB even in crop mode which only applies to JPGs for some unfathomable reason.
Anyway, as many speculated, the sensor seems to basically be, more or less, the 70D/7D2 sensor at FF size.
You didn't follow that video carefully enough. The 7D2 sensor has not caught up at the low end at all. They did fix banding at least though so it caught back up to the old 1Ds3 for low ISO dynamic range (although not for color since it has more color-blind CFA to help the high ISO out, although this subject is complex).
The 7D2 is still many stops behind at ISO100 for dynamic range.That might not matter too much to you or it might matter a decent bit, but it's simply not a match in that regard whether you care or not.
DWare: While interesting that Canon is gearing up for a new high resolution sensors ... I wonder if they are still using the 500nm chip process?
With all the talk of dynamic range a match for 7D2/5D3 it would seem it is the 500nm still.
The problem with that is they might consider the 1 extra stop, assuming it really is there, to be close enough and then just sit on it for another 10 years if not much longer.
Anyway I'm not putting any more money into Canon until they really do it and stop with all the silliness like what they did with the nearly useless jpg only crop mode and so on.
santamonica812: In terms of photographic skill, I think this is an easy 5.0. In terms of the model's ability, it's also a 5.0. But I'm not totally sure how well this fits into the challenge theme. For a theme of "Take your best model shot." or "Create a cover for a fitness magazine" challenge, I think this is a winner.
But the challenge rules seem to call for a photo that will make the viewer smile. Something "lighthearted." Your photo is a "Wow, that's really amazing" type of shot. But lighthearted?? Not at all.
When we all vote in December or January for "Best photos of the year," this image of yours will be in my top 5, I suspect. But (for me, at least), it doesn't work for this particular challenge.
How is this not Strike A Pose or Lighthearted???
George Lepp: " The dynamic range when working on the files in Canon’s DPP and Photoshop CC 2014 was quite good and pretty much matches my EOS 7D MKII."
situman1: Either hes keeping things close to his chest or this guy is totally clueless about the market right now outside of Japan. I think its the latter since he even admitted to it.
I'd say it's just inertia and old brand loyalty and having just enough right on the lenses and user interface to get away with being clueless and/or milk masters for the rest not that they are on key with the rest.
Heck some of their user surveys practically admit it. They have had all sorts of questions like "How locked into your Canon system do you feel by your lens collection?" "Do you feel it would be cost prohibitive to switch systems?" and so on. Just trying to judge how much they can get away with not bothering. And perhaps they are good at that, but it's hardly something for the user to celebrate (unless they own tons of Canon stock and even then can't one imagine that Canon could be dominating sales a LOT more than they are?).
Kabe Luna: Head. In. Sand.
"To be honest I don’t really know - I’m not that close to the US market so I can’t speak from first-hand experience."
"There's nothing in particular that we learned from Nikon or Sony..."
"Looking at all of the mirrorless cameras out there, there’s nothing that really frightens us."
@Thoughts - Why are they sitting on tons of advanced sensor patents? It appears they have patents that could make for some pretty fine dynamic range. But all the patents they have appear to need smaller circuitry than they can make at their main DSLR sensor plant and they just want to keep milking that for all it's worth apparently. As long as everyone keeps buying they won't ever move DSLR sensors to a modern plant and make use of advanced technology. Or risk loosing a tiny bit of margin per copy by going external for sensors or sensor manufacture.
They created the DSLR video revolution, but already it sounds like most of the serious guys having moved on, fed up with the glacial pace. They did pick up some sales in the Cxx among the bigger budget serious but appear to have lost a ton of sales in the lower budget end.
@Thoughts - it reveals everything, because look at what they are doing? Other than for lenses they have become followers. They have become slow & have even admitted at times at trade shows that they have no worry or fear & just want to milk, milk, milk for all they can. Even if that is good for them, & I don't know that it's ideal even in the short term or even good at all in very long term, but it's not best for users.
What is the sense of crop mode only for jpgs in the 5Ds? So crop mode in RAW can a feature for the 5DsII of course. WHy did they remove MFA from the 40D at the last second? So the 50D would have that as an extra feature. Why did they take MFA out of the 60D? So it could be a 'new' feature for the 70D.
I mean even something as minor bit as AutoISO they treated like the king's gold&dribbled out a few coins round by round & it took over a decade to make it work properly despite it being perhaps one of the single most trivial things they've had to implement on a DSLR.
Zvonimir Tosic: It is the Japanese nuance.
When the gentleman says he learns nothing from competitors, he actually is learning a lot. That is how Canon succeeds to be only imaging company today able to report profit. "Never thought of that mirrorless-fanboys, huh?"
When the gentleman says "they are investigating", it means "it is well under way but we won't tell you that. We'll introduce it at our discretion".
When he says "it is difficult", that means "you actually do not know what are you talking about; there are better ways than that".
When he says "they will see", that means, "Not in a hundred years".
And when he says he does not know which camera will best sell in the USA, he actually said, "We make sure it is not our competitor's".
Also your reading of it is 100% counter to what some from over there are saying.
falconeyes: Did he really say "photojournalsts" rather than photographers?
Did he really mix up pixel level quality and image quality?
And you can easily push a single stop without software defaults being too bad for RAW processing so you are ISO25,800 now without really any issue and anything above that tends to look 'interesting' anyway.
@nandbytes - the limit is 100% firmware (not talking performance, just regarding what ISO you could be able to select). It's all just digital multiplication above ISO3200 or so anyway. It could be changed perhaps by altering as little as 4 characters in the firmware.
Of course you can simply shoot ISO6400 and push later on, just as well, and even better (although as some point out it does make judging the back screen and histogram trickier and you have to be careful of twisted color profiles for RAW processing and finding the proper tone curve since lots of software seems to default to behavior that works best if you are not way underexposed, so you may have to mess around to find proper and tricky curves perhaps, but still you can get around the limit 100%+ and to me it's not what I'd consider a big deal, especially I think it does have an H mode actually, which really is zero difference from if they just called it ISO12,800, it's all just digital at that point anyway))
bronxbombers4: I could be wrong, but I have a feeling it would be really nice if whoever it is who is heading up Canon's lens development program just took over the entire camera division and they dumped off the body/sensor development/chief head/MBA market planning executives. Promoted some techie engineer types to management and brought in some serious photographers/videographers into management as well so it's not just all 100% disconnected MBA types, just mix in a few of the other sort.
It feels like it's just run by MBA types with out much connection to actually doing photography/video or deep technical connection.
I don't know. They basically have the best in class and most advanced lens in almost every category (other than for, oddly enough, the 50mm prime set). Lenses take a long time to desgin and make and need to sell for a long while too.
Maybe I am wrong, but it just seemed like they haven't held back and have tried to get the best lens tech out there that they can manage.
(if I am wrong then just ignore the first half of the first sentence and go with the rest f it.)
I could be wrong, but I have a feeling it would be really nice if whoever it is who is heading up Canon's lens development program just took over the entire camera division and they dumped off the body/sensor development/chief head/MBA market planning executives. Promoted some techie engineer types to management and brought in some serious photographers/videographers into management as well so it's not just all 100% disconnected MBA types, just mix in a few of the other sort.
Great Bustard: Words to live by: "There's nothing in particular that we learned from Nikon or Sony..." Tends to explain a lot.
Ah, OK, sorry yeah I'm with you. I was just so used to the ones you were complaining about tossing around the "troll" term that I thought you were with them.
@Niala2 - what makes you think it is the complainers who are the trolls and not those who defend anything and everything Canon does and then flip and promote what they had trashed as useless as the best thing ever as soon as Canon gets it (while often getting very personal in their attacks on those who dare mention any flaw in a product)?
Avobanana: "We didn't learned anything from competitors."
"There is nothing to be afraid of among the mirrorless cameras. "
"Our own mirrorless development team should be afraid of our DSLR team."
If this is not complacency or arrogance I don't know what it is. Plus it seems that there are some "bullying" going on against the mirrorless team. How dare they try building something that threaten the bread and butter of the DSLR business right?
@Thoughts - it'd be a shame for Canon users if the sales continue, since all it means is the same old sensors for another ten years if not much longer and the same old ridiculous games like removing MFA from the 60D so it could be a 'new' feature for the 70D or taking a decade to dribble out a properly working AutoISO despite it's being a trivial to implement 10 cent minor feature, the bizarre JPG only nearly useless crop mode on the 5Ds, the lack of the most basic video usability features in any DSLR (only ML has saved the day), etc.? But I guess you'd rather keep paying for old sensors and keep getting as little features for your buck as possible.Sadly, you may be right, they might be able to just cruise along and not worry. I'd bet they'd sell a lot better and be improving share a lot, but they are conservative so they jsut are fine to stay as is. A shame.
bronxbombers4: "There's nothing in particular that we learned from Nikon or Sony,"
Sadly, truer words have never been spoken!
Might want to look at the actual bodies Canon introduces.... where are the modern sensors? the crop mode that works in RAW so that you actually get useful benefits out of it in the 5Ds? where are basic usability features like zebras/focus peaking/zoomed focus box/4k/10bit? where is the not doing stuff like dribbling out trivial, minor features like a properly working AutoISO over a decade instead of a single product cycle? etc.
Then how come a couple years ago when asked if they planned to introduce a camera like the upcoming RX100 he said that there is no need and we see no market for such a camera and have no plans or need.
And then after it sells like hotcakes, two years later Canon rushes out a clone of the RX100?
It seems like he failed to make sure it was not their competitors until way late in the game.
So does he statement that they have focused their 4k video aims on the needs of new media PJs! What????? That must be the group least clamoring for 4k. Heck, they often do run and gun at far less than 1080P.
That is the same focus group that told them that nobody would want manual exposure for video in the 5D2.