RobertSigmund: An overpriced piece of glass. There are better and cheaper alternatives (Sigma and Canon are mentioned), just not for Sony E mount!
Yes, the Sigma 35mm 1.4 is a great albeit a heavy lens. Different tools.
"Just in case you missed that, the Sony A7R with 35mm f/2.8 lens shot at f/2.8 outresolved the Nikon D800e with either the Nikon 35mm f/1.4G shot at f/4 or the Zeiss 50mm f/2 shot at f/5.6. Stopped down to f/4 to even the playing field, the Sony was clearly higher. In fact, the only lens-camera combinations we’ve seen with that kind of MTF50 is the Zeiss Otus 55mm mounted to a D800e."
cd cooker: The CEO of Canon should be fired! How could he let this happen! T2i,T3i,T4i,T5i all use basically the same sensor!!
That's not all! In addition to that: 100D, 7D, EOS M
When will you use the updated studio scene? Especially the low light setting is better than the one you're using currently.
JPBoden: that´s no image quality.Looks so early 2006.This is the real deal nowadays:
real deal = green skin?
there are a few RAW files available from a Chinese web site.This is ISO 3200 processed in LR 4.2 with default settings:https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4096871/134.jpg
and the same photo, but with a bit of added contrast and luminance noise removd by -18 and then exported to 12 megapixels. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4096871/134-2.jpg
Shamael: NEX-6 runs without AA filter too, like NEX-7 and RX 1. Look the picture 2264079 in full size, and look how many moire pattern you find in the curbs of the leafs of the Pampa grass. They are all excellent cameras, but they have all that problem, same as D800E from Nikon.
I was unable to locate any moire on this:http://masters.galleries.dpreview.com.s3.amazonaws.com/2264079.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=14Y3MT0G2J4Y72K3ZXR2&Expires=1350053693&Signature=sOKR0AUXqaTvdziUBcTtM5pfnUg%3d
secondly, NEX-6, NEX-7 and RX-1 do have AA-filters.
Joes Raw Talk: It could be that the a99 will be a full-frame choice DSLR only for those well invested in the best of Sony lenses. I say this because Canon and Nikon are going to be superior in most ways in head to head comparisons, and the cost is less.
I think I would go for the RX1 before this because the IQ it produces is likely better, similar to what the Nex 7 does over the a77,65. Speaking of which, Of all the top Sony cameras, considering image quality and versatility, I still like the Nex 7 best and look forward to the follow up.
I am a Nikon D800 user and find A99 very tempting. I think EVF is superior to an OVF because you can actually see what the camera sees. Looking through an OVF gives you an idea how to frame, nothing else.
Swivel LCD screen with fast AF - I can forgive a little IQ loss for that. Besides the IQ seems a lot higher than Canon 5D3 for instance.
RX1 will have a higher IQ but they are different tools.
NektonFi: Sony's JPG engine isn't very good. It would've been interesting to see RAW files also, as they are supported by Adobe Camera Raw and Lightroom 4.2. Way much better than Sony's JPG's.
Those are downsampled, but they are nice for sure.
This is really good. And especially I liked the low light test compared to the previous version.
Sony's JPG engine isn't very good. It would've been interesting to see RAW files also, as they are supported by Adobe Camera Raw and Lightroom 4.2. Way much better than Sony's JPG's.
jcmarfilph: And when shoot this scene, please equalize the settings next time coz we are seeing inconsistencies in your studio shots in almost all cameras (within similar group).
I think normalizing the resolution would make comparisons a lot easier. After all, most of the people in the end tend to look at the photos, not at pixels. 8 megapixels like DXO would be good. I doubt any future cameras will have less than that.
Of course full resolution images would be needed also, but normalized images would be the best for comparisons.
JackM: Before you gag on the price, consider that to get similar performance, bare minimum you would need to spend $2100 on a Nikon D600 and $1620 for the 35/1.4. Forget the cheap 35/2, it can't keep up with this Zeiss. And then you have a big heavy bulky camera that you don't want to bring everywhere, and which puts people off when you point it at them in candid situations. And add $100 for a bag.
I'm seriously considering selling my 35/1.4 for this.
Why is 28/1.8 closer than a 35mm lens? Both are full frame cameras.
sadwitch: To me, images from the DP2merrill were more stunning. With the partnership in effect, think Sony should quickly harness Olympus JPEG engine and apply it to their cameras.
Surely DP2merrill is a lot sharper than any Bayer sensor camera (except for D800 when normalized to DP2 resolution). However, Sigmas are dreadful at any sensitivities above ISO 200.
creaDVty: Does anyone know if the D600 has micro-af adjust? That is a feature that is important to me. Thanks.
It does. I have held final production camera in my hands, and it does.
rhlpetrus: DPR: ISO 100 settings for D800: 1/15s, f/11. For D4: 1/8s, f/11. That's one full EV difference, how come?
Typp on EXIF all over the ISO range? Seems extremely unlikely. You can download the raw files and see the same typos over there as well.
I was wondering the same thing. At ISO 6400 it is f/11 and 1/1000 for D800 and 1/500 for D4.
Unless lighting has changed it seems that D800 is a stop more sensitive at same ISO settings than the D4.
plasnu: I dont understand why so much negative comments here. This is a fantastic camera and absolutely a game changer. No question about it.
I'm also very impressed how good OMD is. Do I really need FF? That's the question for me.
Ok, maybe under 10k then :) We'll have to see how D800e compares to 645D
Louis_Dobson: Point made that the IQ war is won. On the basis of those unless you shoot in the dark there is no point in buying that over an OM-D (or whatever floats your boat) and giving your back a rest.
Or unless you push and pull load of stops in PP at base ISO of course, which I do. So the D800 is still on my radar - but for people taking fairly un-manipulated pictures, they're just wasting money and wearing themselves out lugging round something with bragging rights.
D800 raws seem to be one of the best for manipulating as well. There is no banding at ISO 6400 even if you push it 2 stops. These studio samples are obviously easy to push, but based on other raw samples as well the D800's IQ is phenomenal.
I don't understand bad comments either. I am sure D800 will have the best imagequality if the best medium format backs are not taken into account. Best IQ under 20 000 eur/USD for sure.