The smartphones are moving to the right direction I think, with such phones like Galaxy Note 4, S6, K zoom, LG G4, HTC One M9, and CM1. CM1 seems to be a good phone, but some things I don't like:1. 28mm equivalent lens is too wide. 2. non-removable battery3. no OIS4. no Xenon flash5. 1" sensor is too big for a phone.Ideally I'd like to have a phone as follows:1. 1/1.7" - 2/3" sensor size2. 30-35mm fixed focal f/2.0 or faster lens, or 24-1XX zoom similar to the ones on Canon S120 or Fuji XQ2.3. Xenon flash 4. OIS5. removable battery.
I currently own Samsung Galaxy K zoom and I'm very pleased with it, the quality of the photos is much better than my previous phone Galaxy Note 3, which was not bad as well, but the sensor size is a bit small at 1/2.3", and the zoom is bit too long (24-240mm). All other features are present on this phone. I hope that the next iteration will reach my expectations.
seeblue: Although I often find a good smartphone to be a great substitute for a camera, I doubt this good camera makes a great substitute for a smartphone.
For the size and battery-life alone, I wager NO ONE will (or will manage to) use this as their single smartphone. Thus the single device argument falls flat. This is a large sensor compact camera trying to look and act like a smartphone. In the end, it’s an expensive, moderately powered device, with average handling and speed, designed for a handful of pixel-peeping RAW and resolution enthusiasts.
The smartphone which will come closest to conquering photography will come from Apple or Samsung; not from a camera maker. Apparently they’re taking their time. In a few years we’ll look back at the CM1 as a kludge.
I use Galaxy K zoom as my only smartphone, and I'm pretty happy with it. I has OIS, removable battery, xenon flash, and 24-240 zoom lens, which is pretty good for a phone. The only downsize is that the sensor size is a bit small at 1/2.3", which is not bad compared to other smartphones, but I'd prefer 1/1.7" or larger. I don't think that I'd like to have more that 2/3" sensor size on a phone.
supeyugin1: Sony is a good sensor manufacturer, they should stick with it, and exit camera and lens manufacturing, as they are not good at it. They already ruined all the Minolta stuff they bought. Their lenses are only good for smartphones, they should stick with this market.
I was talking about 06 lens, not 07, and about RX100 mkI.
Q7 is much better than RX100 past 70mm with 06 lens, not to mention that Pentax ergonomics is superior to any other camera I tried so far. Sony sucks in this respect and by far.
Iuri Cezar: I would like to see another approaching ... like a LX200, a GH5 or a FZ2000 making/receiving calls !
Not very long ago, smartphones had a less than 3" screen. My first smartphone had a 2.8" screen, and I was happy.
SmilerGrogan: Beautiful images from the DPR team!!!
I would have to get into it further, but I think this camera is perfect for people like me who need to post high-quality images to social media outlets during events and conferences where wi-fi is either non-existent or prohibitively expensive (such as at big business hotels where it can be a few hundred dollars a day for high-speed access).
For instance, I was shooting an event last week and the client wanted me to post photos to Facebook right then but no wi-fi for miles. So I put away my D810, f/1.4 lenses and speedlights and shot with my iPhone. She was overjoyed with the results because I was able to post a small gallery on Facebook via LTE within a couple of minutes.
So before you get too critical of this camera, remember that a lot of people make their living doing social media and this seems like a great tool for those people.
Why don't you take G4 enabled camera with you, like Samsung Galaxy NX, or Wifi enabled camera + use your cell as a hotspot?
I never tried A7 and will never try, I don't need FF, APS-C is good enough. I don't have any legacy lenses.Sony lenses are only good if they have CZ lable on them, but then the price goes up significantly. The rest of Sony lenses are either made by Tamron, or Minolta legacy designs.
Bwahahaha! I own Sony RX100, but I prefer using Pentax Q7 instead of Sony. It's so much more fun!
Sony is a good sensor manufacturer, they should stick with it, and exit camera and lens manufacturing, as they are not good at it. They already ruined all the Minolta stuff they bought. Their lenses are only good for smartphones, they should stick with this market.
SergioBR: Ok , let´s wait the next Samsung Galaxy K Zoom (Hope 1' sensor, RAW mode etc). Nice job LG ! All the cameraphones must show their weapons now !
I just got K zoom recently, and it clearly beats my previous phone (Note 3). On the other hand there is a similar to G4 phone from Samsung, which is Note 4. The lens is a bit slower than G4, but it has removable battery and SD slot as well.
Photato: This G4 can easily be one of the best Smartphone Camera currently. It Checks all the Specs that a Pro or Enthusiast photographer may want.Apparently it has the same Sony Sensor as the Galaxy S6 but with an even larger Aperture at f1.8 and better 3 Axis OIS (the S6 has two)But probably a more important Spec is the dedicated WB sensor which helps with great accurate color, something that can be seen at any image size.The Quantum Display with its Wide Gamut and high resolution rounds the whole package.I don't care about the Leather Cover though, it looks tacky and ultimately doesn't protect the Screen, I'd rather get the Plastic version and cover it with a protective TPU case that wraps the Screen Bezel.Oh and Removable Battery and SD card !I don't think there is nothing LG left out here.If so I'd like to know :)I hope the DPR staff here can see the value of this and make a review of this tech marvel.
I think the best smartphone camera is still Samsung Galaxy K zoom. I just got one few days ago, and so far it's the best camera on a phone I ever had, my previous phone is Note 3, which had a pretty decent camera, but not up to K zoom standards.
supeyugin1: Alison should take care of her nail polish, it's peeling off!
Yeah, I'm wondering what's gonna come after peeling nail polish? I'm scared!
supeyugin1: You also forgot Pentax Q 15-45/2.8, it's an equivalent of 69-207 on Pentax Q7. The weight is 90g/3.17oz and the length is 56mm. The quality is excellent, and the price is only $300. I've got it as a part of a bundle, so it's cost was $200 for me.
There is Blur Control feature on Q-series cameras. Achieves similar effect, and it's really cool.
It looks unprofessional for the DPR staff.
nir-vana: A journalist should ask the tough questions and not just let Canon representative make an online advertisement. The man talks extensively about video but the changes are minor, late and not substantial. No articulated screen, no 4K, low end 4:2:0, no focus peaking, no advanced codec, no WiFi, no touch focus, no word about full sensor readout or line skipping. All of that make it inferior to the latest MILCs of Panasonic, Sony and other mirrorless brands, or even to Panasonic latest compacts.It seems like Canon still believe that their only rival is Nikon.
Why do insist on DSLR? DSLR is passe. You can't shoot good video with DSLR. DSLR is lagging behind. Yes, if you sleep five years, you will die. Try not to work for 5 years, then come back to market and try to find a job. Good luck. Yes, Samsung has some quality glass on par with Canon's L glass.
Alison should take care of her nail polish, it's peeling off!
You also forgot Pentax Q 15-45/2.8, it's an equivalent of 69-207 on Pentax Q7. The weight is 90g/3.17oz and the length is 56mm. The quality is excellent, and the price is only $300. I've got it as a part of a bundle, so it's cost was $200 for me.
supeyugin1: A new king of pocketable compacts! Canon finally dethroned Sony. And it's cheaper too! Good job, Canon.
Well, at least Canon doesn't need to stick Zeiss or Leica name on their lenses.
I have mkI, and I wouldn't say it's exceptional up to Zeiss standards.I also have an R1 with "Zeiss", which is good, but not exceptional.
Zeiss just sticks their name on those. As well as Leica-Panasonic.