tedolf: Well, I had the opportunity to try this camera (and the e-p5) this weekend. The first thing I can say about the e-pl7 is that the buttons are really tiny-really tiny compared to the buttons on my e-pl1. So small that I have no idea how you are going to operate them by feel when using the VF-2 at eye level. Seems like they were made for a tiny Japanese lady who will be looing at the back of the camera. The p5 is better but still, I wish it had bugger buttons. Next, the 3:2 screen is a disaster. Why they think it is necessary to supplicate video people is beyond me. The image is actually smaller than my e-pl1, and the icons are much smaller-so much so I have a hard time seeing them.
Otherwise it is an OK camera. The e-p5 impresses with a very quiet shutter release-Leica like. The twin dials are nice but the single dial of the pl7 works fine if you are using legacy lenses with aperture rings. The pl7 is definitely a fiddly camera-it would take some getting used to.
I use the vf-2 a lot so I am happy in 4:3 aspect ratio land.
As for the mode that is interesting. I was experimenting last night using S mode for manual focus legacy lenses. The rear dial adjusts the shutter speed and the front dial adjusts exposure comp which in reality just moves the ISO around to give you the exposure you want. The aperture ring on the lens is well, the aperture ring on the lens. If you think about it, this is exactly the set up on the Fuji X cameras with a prime lens.
With the VF-2 it is very Leica-esque.
Throw the 2x2 lever and you have ISO and WB on the dials.
decodeddreams: This cameras pretty convenient and the qualities nice. I haven't really touched my Canon 5D Mark II since I got this little thing.
Manual lenses can work fine for sports. Just ask the Sports Illustrated photographers from the 1970's.
photo perzon: The flash does not bounce. The LCD does not do selfies.
Obviously, not the camera for you?
I recently picked up this camera from my local bricks and mortar camera store. I will be posting a review in a few weeks after I have had time to take some photo's make some prints and do some comparisons.
So far I see no evidence of so called "shutter shock" at the relevant shutter speeds and I am not using any of the special anti-shock settings (Firmware Ver. 1.5). But then again, I never saw them on the E-pl1 either.
I didn't notice that it was really loud (like the old GF-1) but the p-5 is very, very quiet. Like the M-5 is quiet.
Well, I had the opportunity to try this camera (and the e-p5) this weekend. The first thing I can say about the e-pl7 is that the buttons are really tiny-really tiny compared to the buttons on my e-pl1. So small that I have no idea how you are going to operate them by feel when using the VF-2 at eye level. Seems like they were made for a tiny Japanese lady who will be looing at the back of the camera. The p5 is better but still, I wish it had bugger buttons. Next, the 3:2 screen is a disaster. Why they think it is necessary to supplicate video people is beyond me. The image is actually smaller than my e-pl1, and the icons are much smaller-so much so I have a hard time seeing them.
So, is the only meaningful difference between this camera and an E-pm2 the ability to have a stabilized view while focusing and the control wheel?
pkosewski: I'm tried the PL5 body a while ago and thought: if only it had a dial for aperture.
PL7 seems great, but the price is simply to high. M10 is only $100. If PL7 had a better sensor, this might be somehow attractive.With the same sensor it is just a bit smaller, a bit cheaper, but a seriously inferior camera.
With DSLRs, we pay a lot for features (eg. D3300 vs D7100).With Olympus the base price for getting into the system is very high, but a very serious "prosumer" body (M5) is not even twice as expensive as a basic PL5/7. But if Olympus manages to earn money this way, then this is what they should do.
I hate that little dial.
Ok, I'll bite.
And don't tell me it is the fiddly dial on the back.
davidjohnson87: nice products, but one question can it be connect to my HDTV.
Alan2dpreview: I have an E-PL1 with 14-42mm lens and VF-2. Will this lens and viewfinder work on the PL7?
Does anybody know what the shutter sounds like on this thing? I was very impressed with how quiet the shutter is on the EM-5. Very Leica like. Not so impressed with the way the shutter sounded on the EM-10.
Eugene232: I had an EPL5, it is a nice camera,but for legacy lenses Sony NEX is much better.for native lenses I'd take.. also NEX
All the Oly's have either a built in EVF or an EVF option. A nice thing about the external add on EVF' is that the tip up for macro work.
As for crop factor it cuts two ways. If you are shooting landscapes and displaying on a 9x16 monitor the 3:2 aspect ratio is an advantage. If you are shooting portraits and printing, the 4:3 aspect ratio is an advantage.
picsnmorepics: Whoaa, this sounds interesting. I just about came out of my skin waiting and waiting for a X100. It must have been about 4 months coming and just before a big trip to Europe. After about 2000 shots I had to finish several days of the trip at f/2. Fortunately there was enough control to do that and the lens at f/2 was good enough to give me decent results. That SAB problem was eventually fixed, the firmware updates happened and every time I pick up my F100, I thank Fuji for hanging in there but I'll always wonder what they as a company expect of me as a customer next.
This looks like a very nice upgrade to my X100. I also use a Ricoh GR Digital, and a couple of Nikon DSLRs plus a Nikon 1 V2. All pass through my LR/PSCC with wonderful results. All I hear is grief about the X-Trans and Adobe. Lots of workarounds with other software, but when I'm already well established into a RAW workflow with three other sensor technologies, why would I wish the X-trans on myself on purpose.
Just as it is possible for a photographer to make an ugly person look good, it is possible for a photographer to make a good looking person ugly.
Actually the camera lies all the time. That is what makes a good portrait photographer!
His wife is a very attractive lady. The wife is not the problem.
Oly has focus peaking too. Anyway, I don't like it on Sony, Oly, or Fuji. I think it is a gimic. As for crop factor, I think this is in u4/3 favor. A "nifty fifty" becomes a fantastic 100mm f/1.8 on u 4/3. On Nex it is a so so 75mm lens.
Lots of grips for m4/3 cameras. The VF-2/VF-4 are as good as anything NEX has. IQ is better but only about ISO 3200 and I don't shoot there. With IBIS you don't have to.
And again, no IBIS
AbrasiveReducer: This camera is a classic and it shows in the small number of improvements with each new version. I personally wouldn't spend good money for a camera with a fixed 35mm lens because it reminds me of the very good and super cheap Olympus, Canon and Yashica film compacts (even looks like them). But if a 35mm lens is all you need or you're carrying a second camera with zoom or interchangeable lenses, the X100 is pretty impressive and they've really done great things with the leaf shutter.
Bingo. I can't understand why Oly doesn't make a "poor man's" version of this camera. Remove the lens mount from the E-pm2, put the VF-2 in the corner, slap the guts of the 17mm f/2.8 in it, make it manual focus by tab (retractable lens)with an indent for hyperfocal distance at f/5.6, and give it a switch for optical/live view. Done.
This makes no sense.
tedolf: I have decided I will wait for the E-pm3.
Maybe it will have a 4:3 screen and buttons you can push with gloves on.
I shoot a lot with manual rangefinder lenses. The rear screen is not detailed enough for accurate focus without zooming. With the VF-2 I can manually focus without having to use the zoom feature. It is like using an old 35mm SLR except that the screen gains up if it gets dim. Also, it is more steady for really low hand held shutter speeds.
So, I can't give up the VF-2
I am really thinking about the E-pm2. The only thing leaning me towards the pl7 is that it can give a stabilized view for manual focusing with legacy lenses. Now that is a neat trick. Is it neat enough to justify another $300.00?
Not if you already had an EVF.