Photo-Wiz: I was hoping the Nikon would improve underwater pics too. But on my TS3 I never have battery problems. After taking it snorkeling on over 30 occassions, I have never had a leak. And comparing your Butterfish and Turtle Pictures to the TS3, I wonder, does the Nikon really produce better results?
@KonstantinosK, Ikelite does make a water housing for the LX7. It costs between £400 and £500, i.e from around $600 to $750.
Neodp: One day perhaps the m43 sensor will be better than the best APS-C sensors today. That day, is not today. I can not abide the water color smeary noise at 1:1, at real world lighting (including shadows in any contrasting light) high IOS's. I'd say the goal is zero noise; at ISO 3200. This camera is way over priced. It's fine lenses are also way overpriced, comparatively (think 35mm Nikkor AF-S). I'm all for better carry sizes(and pocket camera progression); but it's just not worth it, now.
@T3. Well, not sure. Pixel peeping or at least large decent crops will be more needed now the screen resolutions are (finally) improving. Apple started the move with the iMac 27. Windows hardware makers were slow to follow but now all have such a screen in their catalogue and the prices are falling. In 5 years or so, 4K TV (3840x2160) might well also get mainstream. To cater for this type of crop, 24 Megapixel cams won't be a luxury.
So what will the smartphone images look like on such devices? Like the tiny black pix of my grandparents whose face I can't even see properly with a magnifying glass.I wouldn't mind using a smartphone to take an unsignificant pic on the spur of the moment. But I certainly would not for travel in areas where I might never return again. And I do hope young parents shoot their kids at different age with decent gear for their memory books.
ric63: Long awaited succesor to the amazing and ground breaking camera the R1Sony is the only company that keeps trying, some things are good, some things are simply bad, and things like this are stunning.They dont keep punching out face lifted same old same old.Well done Sony for having a go.Expensive yes, but also an instant classic. Will be nice next to my R1.
I used the FZ10 whiche introduced me into digital photography. If I remember rightly price was around $1000 then, weight and size more or less similar to this new announcement. FZ10 produced the best pix I ever got from a digital cam, including the FZ200. Used it a lot in the mountains (snow), it was like using binoculars. Glass clarity even at full zoom was amazing.On the down side, cam was slow and viewfinder made taking pix more like guess work.Had hoped the FZ200 would have been a worthy successor. Its glass, build, etc is good but sensor and processor turned out to be below expectations.RX10 might be the one.
rpm40: This is actually exactly what I expected as a follow up to the rx100- an R1 successor with the 1" sensor. It should be an incredibly versatile camera with good image quality.
Only thing I wouldn't have guessed- the price. STEEP. They managed the R1 with an aps-c sensor and beautiful lens for $999, and that's really the top of the range for where this should have been priced.
Just like when Fuji released the ambitious XS-1 superzoom with a bigger sensor, styled it like an SLR, and then proceeded to price it above many SLRs, it will probably die on the vine.
"Take inflation into account and this is probably cheaper in real value than the R1. Bot to mention it's on a different level of performance and IQ."Sure but in the meantime the average price of cameras went down. So I still believe ithis cam is priced about $200 higher than reasonable. Guess this price is for early adopters and will come down after Xmas.
This is great news and I look forward to an in-depth review QUICKLY... Used the R1 which was a great cam for portraits and still life. Apparently size and weight are similar.
Well done Pana. Think it's the most exciting cam they produced since the GH2. Slim shape, viewfinder, a bit of stabilization when using primes, slightly better IQ. Very desirable as far as I'm concerned.
Ben O Connor: Looks very cool. Wondering about its screen, and Weather Sealing, if its exist. Its a nice feature on OM-D in my opinion.
Olympus also gives chance people as
PRO´s : Use OM-D, enjoy the EVF and add your external flash !Amateurs: Use PEN- P5, carry your Flash everywhere, enjoy the brightest screen with your finger tips.
Wondering about its prices and specs. It can be my first Interchangable Lens camera.
Wondering as well about Olympus pricing.
In my country, Sony NEX-3N and Panasonic GF5 are priced below $500 like the original e-PM1 started at. But an e-PM2 is significantly more expensive. Yes, a "mere" 50% overpricing.
In fact an E-PM2 costs EVEN slightly more (around $40) than a NEX-5R ... which the E-PL5 should instead be competing with.The E-PL5 itself is around $80 dollars more than a Pana G5 which provides a built-in EVF and a fully tiltable Screen.
There's less than 200 dollars price diff between an E-PL5 and an E-M5, so not much room for the E-P5 price adjustment which will force Olympus to reduce the price of last year's PENs.
But I bet Oly will have lost the 2013 summer holiday sales opportunities before it does it and will have to wait until more or less Thanksgiving to aim at the next sizeable interest. It's pathetic because the cams are really nice. No wonder it's practically impossible to see them in stores here...
It'd be good if dpreview could provide at least the test scenes with Samsung 2013 image sensor before this range gets discontinued...
Marty4650: The GH-3 looks to be very attractive for video shooters. It's quite a great option for them.
But since I shoot mostly stills, I'll take the OM-D for it's better jpegs, 5-axis IS, and smaller size and weight.
This IBIS thing is huge for me. By going with lens based IS, Panasonic has limited its users to Panasonic lenses only (especially for telephotos). If the ability to mount legacy lenses is a plus for the GH-3, then it's an even bigger plus for the OM-D, since all those legacy lenses will now be stabilized.
When you get to be my age, you will appreciate IS a lot more!
Blackmagic for M4/3 is very exciting on paper. Look forward to seeing how and when it materializes.
tomster1981: I think the final score is the only criticism you could level at this review as the buying advise and comparisons with other models was spot on. However while I was reading it I did expect a 81% plus score due to the fact that it does everything so well in one camera. However the score is probably the least important detail of a review (unless your the marketing manager for Panasonic) and DPreview is a predominantly stills based site which I think is reflected in the score to be honest. I still think the GH3 is a better option as a stills camera then the OMD if you put handling over compactness.
@ bobbarber. Agree. Convergence is great unless one has highly specific professional needs. And even video pros usually welcome shooting some stills for preparatory work.
larrytusaz: So it's great for video but in stills it's not junk, but it's not as good as it COULD be.
Hmm, seems like validation of what I've said all along--if you try to be a stills and video camera at the same time, something will suffer. Looks like stills suffered--and again, I read that they're not HORRIBLE, but that they don't measure up to the likes of the Nikon D7100, which it's almost as large & expensive as.
So maybe a camera should be geared towards stills-only, or video-only, and enough with the "convergence" nonsense.
Also, it's micro 4/3rds, yet look at how HUGE it is. I thought micro 4/3rds was about d-SLR (or near d-SLR) quality in a SMALLER package. This is hardly that.
The OM-D/EM-5 looks like a better implementation--much smaller, better JPEG engine, and the red dot YouTube button can be re-mapped to a stills-only function to optimize it as a stills-only camera. Now THAT makes more sense.
There are more compact M4/3 bodies (GX1, EPL-5) if you prefer this type. Some people tho' do not like miniature buttons and would rather go for a more sizeable camera. Nowadays, there's a quality offer in both sizes.
Don't think convergence is nonsense. Lots of people nowadays do both still and videos even if not necessarily in the same proportions. Up to now Sony was in my opinion the manufacturer which consistently best managed both but the gap is narrowing fast.As a left-hander (around 10% of worldwide population is left-handed) convergence finally allowed me to shoot some video I could never manage on consumer video cams handled only with the right hand. With a convergence cam, I can use one hand to hold the camera, the other one to handle the lense.
Moreover Pana G X lenses are great for left-handers with their zoom lever on the left side (which might be why some right-handers don't like them that much...).
Camediadude: Looks good so far, impressive screen and good controls ... but as always, I get dismayed when they come out with new models that won't accept the accessory EVF's. Being able to plug in an EVF is a significant plus for me. But I know, many don't want or need one .. and I realize that one can use those specialized loupes to view the screen with like a viewfinder, but it is not the same.. It is definitely nice to have both. I'm sure this won't deter many from eagerly buying it though, as I seem to be in the minority.
... but it's good news that the GF6 has a decent 1 Megapixel+ tiltable and touchable LCD screen.
GX2?? What makes you assume there will be one? If so it's 6 months late... Therefore technologically dicey given the narrowing gap between the 4 Pana M4/3 lines.As far as I'm concerned a GF/GX different line is not necessary. an accessory line should make up for it.
MDGColorado: Panasonic got this camera just right. GF6 looks simple enough for a beginner to take high-quality images, but not oversimplified. It has a mode dial and physical buttons. If the screen works OK outdoors, I could live without an EVF.
At the same time, is it clever business decision to prevent customers spending on the EVF option?
MDGColorado: And I've owned 4 cameras with hotshoes in my life and never bought a flash.
I agree, it'd cost pretty next to nothing to provide a standard hotshoe with a "sexy curved cover" to cover it up... and make it available for people to care for it. Same for external sound input and optional viewfinder whose cost covers up for the multi-use hotshoe.
zinedi: Another viewfinderless pack of ...nese electronics.Demonstration of viewfinderlessness. Be happy Fuji, blindness is infectious and not protected by copyright. The bigger is the pile of similar electronic packs, the more briliant shines your idea of photographic camera.
Sure, viewfinders so far haven'^t given the detail of their ancestors but they adapt according to the settings chosen. So, pardon me, but I strongly believe that for an ordinary human being, it's an improvement in this respect. As for the retro design, I don't give a damn. Would rate quality, sturdiness, evolutivity of the body or better of the whole camera.
Really nice pic, whether it's produced by a Canon, Nikon, Olympus, Panasonic or Sony camera of the same price range.
BJN: Just what Micro Four Thirds doesn't need – a seedy start-up leveraging the eviscerated Kodak legacy with what I predict will be cheap, low quality products.
Low quality products? Your guess reminds me of what was said of Lenovo when it bought IBM PC division. Outcome? Lenovo turned out quality products. Moreover it passed Dell and HP as the no 1 worldwide supplier of PC last year...
@marike6, I agree with you but I'm not sure autumn 2012 is the best time to make such a decision unless one is desperate or can afford to upgrade quickly.
Nikon with the 1 series, Sony with the RX100, Fuji with the X10 Nokia with the Pureview 808 all showed that the 1 inch or 2/3 sensor formats can make a real difference in still image IQ which hasn't improved that much (and some years regressed) over the last 5 years or so when most camera companies concentrated on the video capabilities of their new offering.
Moreover, pressure from the iPhone which is now the most used cam in the world, forces them to do better. Soon rather than later if they want their products to leave the stores' shelves.
@calmwaters Yes the XZ1 was an excitiing camera when it came out almost 2 years ago. But today you can buy a refurb or 2nd hand pm1 with a Pana 14 mm 2.5 prime for $330... So I can't help feeling there's a disappointing gap.