KelvinHammond: I'd say that those who whine about CC probably have no idea how to effectively use 95% of the features LR or PS. For those of us that have already used PS for 20 years, and LR for maybe 10, the sheer power of the software for enabling us to turn pixels in to $$'s, including infinite updates, is a grand bargain!!! I spend more then that on coffee every month, which is btw, equally important.
This is good business, not some crybaby Tea Party event. :)
"I'd say that those who whine about CC probably have no idea how to effectively use 95% of the features LR or PS."
That might be true, but a lot of us are whining because Adobe asks us in Europe to pay around 70% more than US users. Wouldn't mind so much if we were get 70% more features, but then I'd have to learn how to use 165% of them to make you happy ;D
Brigcam: What about this line in the press release?
"Nikon will also be making a Software Developers Kit (SDK) available in the near future for the D810. This SDK will give third party developers the resources needed to create applications and enhance the flexibility of the D810"
Is that just for remote control apps, or are they actually going to open up the camera itself? That would be huge if the latter.
I fear it will be the former, as the latter would be a bit of headache regarding warranty liabilities (is it Nikon's responsibility to fix a camera that's been bricked by 3rd party software?).
Barry Pearson: My career was in the computer industry, working for a company which made part of its income from software revenues. So part of my own income came (in effect) from software revenues, which for our own operating systems tended to be on subscription/rental. So I have a different view from many people here, and I am comfortable with the CC model. (And I don't see software piracy as a victimless action).
I have long said that I believe the first software to be considered by club-level photographers should be Lightroom or the equivalent, rather than Photoshop which has been the traditional first product in the UK. Then editing software can be added if needed. I know people who make effective use of Photoshop Elements, with or without Lightroom. I also know many people who use Photoshop and struggle with it, while they clearly don't need anything beyond Elements or the equivalent.
Photoshop is not a monopoly. Even Adobe don't think so, hence Elements, which is not CC.
My issue, like many here in Europe, is that we are asked to pay a LOT more than US users. The cheapest subscription option in the US is $9.99, but here it's €12.99, which is over $17USD. We may have higher sales taxes, and porting to a foreign language may not be cheap either, but it shouldn't almost double the damn price.
Strikeroot: "Ugly" must be what people revert to saying when they have no other avenue for meaningful criticism.
I actually like how it looks, and would be hella tempted to put a "Minolta" logo over the Sony one just for laughs.
wkay: obvious generalities about cameras with no apparent selection value
I challenge you to do better.