BKK Street: Nice write up. Most of the tourists I see lugging around DSLR's would be better served with one of these. (Or an RX100 for most situations). And GM-1 and Fuji's are just gorgeous. Do miss the availability of a fully articulated LCD on all the models listed though.
Nope, people do "lug around" a consumer DSLR compared to this group. Consumer DSLRs have lost their reason for being - people don't have to do that anymore and coming from cell phones and entry compact cameras, they don't want to.
The IQ of consumer DSLRs is no better than the m4/3rds cameras like the GM1 and EPM2 and probably worse.
LWS2013: nothing says dull, flat and lifeless quite like an M4/3rds camera
rmp40: Thanks for putting it positively.
Isn't it interesting how tastes and design preferences can differ? Nothing says dull, flat, and lifeless to me quite like an ugly old DSLR with a honking great lens. It seems like a boat anchor for life. But a lot of great photographers take wonderful images with them. To each his or her own.
I am one of those who bought a GF1 and a G1 and have enjoyed the ergonomics of both, but did not enjoy handling or using the EM5. Just don't like the camera. There are photographers I respect who like it and others who report very good things about the EM1. For me it would be a battle between the GH3 and the EM1 - I tend to prefer Panasonic ergonomics and user interface.
From my understanding of image quality tests, for all practical purposes, m4/3rds, APS-C and FF are now all pretty equal, It is photographic purposes, lenses, and size of kit that determine which one to buy and use.
M4/3rds offers a system of very small, medium small, and larger small bodies sharing an increasingly satisfying array of light and high quality native lenses, and adaptable to others. Am looking forward to a Panasonic GM1 at the very small end of the range - in some ways the successor to the GF1, while the GX7 is it's worthy successor in other ways.
To each his or her own. Happy shooting!
Might you not give us more information in your headline?
Third party lenses for Full Frame and APS-C cameras, perhaps.
You do not include M4/3rd third party lenses and it would be better to say which ones you do include.
The GM1 looks like a great camera to me, especially with the grip. With the GX7 a little bigger, the GM1 is the true successor to the GF1. Am looking forward to both the GM1 and GX7.
Nice I am a Hudson guy myself!
duartix: I'd say that by the count of dpreview staff that came out justifying the review and the score, they're both mortally wounded.
You justify your score below based on your comparative fine grained numerical scores. I think it would be useful to have them available in this case, and the rationale for each. That would give us a better idea of where you are coming from.
cgarrard: Even I'm a bit surprised on the final score and rating with this one, and I usually agree with DPR's conclusions.
And I do mean a bit, not a lot- as in a sarcastic reply. To me I thought the GX7 would get a gold award by dpr staffers, seems to tick off a lot of what they like in a camera. No worries though, there might be some intangibles mixed in there too with that score.
Personally I think the GX7 is the best camera for m4/3 Panasonic has ever built.
May we have the fine grained scoring on all reviews please.
"since there doesn't appear to be any suggestion of any fundamental failing - other than a failure to draw the conclusion some people would like - it's better that we press on with preparing more content."
I don't know what you would consider a fundamental failing, but an unfair score is certainly one.
To each his own. You do your job. And if you are particularly sensitive to field sequential EVFs, you have a personal point of view.But I don't see your score as fair - the GX7 seems "really well worked out" to me relative to the nits you have picked.
A 79 is always basically a cop-out score. Give it a 78 or an 80.
I was a bit disappointed with the score given, and the reasons provided for the score. They seemed like severe nit picking to me. If a professor gave me this mark on a paper, I think I would be justified in asking him to take a second look.
Weight - 760 g
Looks like a heavy beast.
FrankS009: R Butler wrote. "As a generalised statement, mirrorless cameras are still in development, whereas DSLRs (regardless of brand) have been around long enough that they get most of the basics right - it's the stuff 'round the edges that distinguishes them."
I find it quite hard to believe that after five years, M4/3rds for one has not got BOTH the "basics" AND the "stuff 'round the edges" right in several camera bodies by both Panasonic and Olympus. Furthermore they seem to have both right in different sized bodies in a truely versatile and lightweight system of bodies and lenses.
Changes are here for the camera industry, and the polishing of old practices is not enough any more.
R Butler: You are changing the rules on me!
Your generalized statement was about both mirrorless and DSLR cameras, "regardless of brand." Now you are comparing plenty of mirrorless cameras with one specific model.
If you are now being specific about particular cameras, to be fair it would be better to compare the mirrorless stand-out cameras you mention with the 70D. Or to continue to generalize, you might compare the "quirks" of many mirrorless cameras with the flaws of APS-C or FF DSLRs broadly speaking.
I would still suggest that M4/3rds get the "stuff 'round the edges" right enough that your defense of DSLRs rings a bit hollow. On the other hand, you put your own purchasing decisions on the line, and might be commended for that.
R Butler wrote. "As a generalised statement, mirrorless cameras are still in development, whereas DSLRs (regardless of brand) have been around long enough that they get most of the basics right - it's the stuff 'round the edges that distinguishes them."
This was a fun challengeF.
tkbslc: Honestly it seems like a nice lens, but created for an already crowded focal length range. They should have gone for something wider or longer to make it more interesting. I mean are there really many m43 shooters that were dying for a fast wide prime that didn't already buy one of the 12, 14 or 17mm options?
Yabokkie: Not so good in what way? Love mine.F.
igorek7: Great news for everyone who are using Micro Four Thirds system! There is a need for a wide-angle high quality prime lens, and I think that 15mm f/1.7 would nicely compliment two other Leica's MFT lenses: 25mm f/1.4 and 42.5mm f/1.2.
yabokkie: Not what I hear. Can you be more specific?F.
Miwok: If I want a small camera, I pick a 1" sensor. If I want a "better" IQ and possibility of shallow DOF, I take a DLSR.Sorry, but no need of Four Thirds or FF sensor for me. :(
Read Michael Reichmann's review of the GX7 on the Luminous Landscape site.