villagranvicent: The more I look at this SL, the more I love my M8.
I am disappointed in this camera precisely because there is not going to be any Panasonic version of this heavy monster. If Panasonic is going to offer a FF mirrowless camera to compete with Sony, they will have to start from scratch.F.
FrankS009: Why does it have to be so heavy? And it is as heavy as any DSLR. It is about twice as heavy as any camera I would use.
I came from a point and shoot, so I am writing about my own experience. Doubt I am the only one who has no interest in a DSLR - although I bought a DSLR styled Panasonic G1 for the kit lens.
I suspect, and this is only an hypothesis, that there is a generation of photographers who come to more enthusiast cameras from point and shoots or smart phones. There are also those who can't or won't carry heavy kits any more. So Leica would be better caring for what camera I would use than not. That is why M4/3rds hits such a sweet spot. Even the first A7s (but not the new models) weighed half of this Leica.
Everlast66: A lot of the technology inside this body is Panasonic for sure.I think Leica/Panasonic are testing the waters, with their first FF mirror-less (modern) design.
I wouldn't be surprised, if less than a year from now, Panasonic makes a shot directly at Sony A7 series with a cheaper and more practical version of this.
If Canon and Nikon don't come up with competitors in the meantime, Sony-Panasonic will be pushing this market very hard and the old leaders will find themselves a lap behind all of a sudden.
This may be aimed at Canon and Nikon, but if Panasonic makes an FF to complement its m4/3rds offerings for those who might wander over to Sony, I hope it weighs half as much and has manual controls. I will be interested in how the reviews feel about these controls - whether they get out of the way or, or in the way of actually taking photos.
Why does it have to be so heavy? And it is as heavy as any DSLR. It is about twice as heavy as any camera I would use.
Weighs a tonne.
I am not sure I would buy anything with a prominent Lowepro logo on the front. Visible as a camera bag about a hundred yards away. F.
This will be a good lens, although I will get the PL 1.4 What I would like to see is a Panasonic 17.5 1.7, or a 12mm 1.7.F.
FrankS009: Is this camera as good as a Panasonic G7? The latter is not mentioned in the review. Not a "peer" like the Sony or Fuji mirrorless cameras mentioned? Same price.F.
You are right. I think they have edited the review.F.
Is this camera as good as a Panasonic G7? The latter is not mentioned in the review. Not a "peer" like the Sony or Fuji mirrorless cameras mentioned? Same price.F.
Very difficult to draw conclusions - so many variables, including raw converter, lenses used, not to mention eyesight, etc. But so many dramatic judgments and strong statements by opinionated readers. I find the comments more "interesting" than the images.
Looks like a nice bag but expensive. I would rather buy a lens.
FrankS009: Not as heavy as I had feared - 474g.
You are right.F.
Not as heavy as I had feared - 474g.
The RX100 is not that light. It is heavier than a Panasonic GM1 with a 12-32mm lens (and a much bigger sensor) , and only 100g less than a GX7.
Right. Am off to buy a lottery ticket.
Diogo Lopes: DSC-RX100 II - $599DxO ONE - $599
Iphone6 (129 g) + DxO ONE(108g) = 237g (in your hand)DSC-RX100 II - 281g (1 hand operation)
Cost to fix broken lightning connector (on the camera and/or phone) ????
Cost to add an adapter when Apple change its mind??
No thanks...Flop of the year!
*it's funny how DP tried hard...
You have to add the cost of the iPhone to the DxO 1 if you want the combination.
Forgive me if I have repeated a preceding post. This might be an interesting product, but only for those who have Apple phones etc.
A lovely camera but not light. Still, a lens is included in the weight. I guess it depends how often one shoots at 28mm.F.
Another camera body to have to carry in my bag, along with the colour version. F.