Avoden: Another commenter said Picture Window Pro 6. I've seen some excellent results from it!
It's on my short list when I finally need to upgrade from CS6.
I've been using this professionally for more than 10 years.I statrted at Pro 2.5 and now at 6.0. Get the Pro version does 48 bit and batching.Very nice.It's written by a photographer/programmer and has everything a photographer needs and nothing he does not. I always knew Adobe would go for the throat and never went there. Now I'm glad I didn't.
Zerg2905: At 1800 USD, this will be a nice camera, with AF (if proven that is "limited") as an "oddity". Thing is, the difference between this and the 5DIII is big. And I spent my last 3 months examining the pros and cons of the 5DIII: guess what - Canon did it right with that one, no matter what Nikon or any other brand fans might say. The price is high, but let's wait a bit - maybe the 6D will help here. Now, regarding Canon marketing fluff: I always believed that weather sealing on any model except 1D series was just fluff, and that Nikon was indeed the soviet tank in the room. I was wrong. Last Friday, on a mountain trip, I have experienced my worst sudden Autumn rain so far (thick, like a water curtain). The 7D and the attached 24-70 f/2.8 Mk I experienced 4 Km (on foot) under this rain. In the camp the 7D was pouring water. Both camera and lens survived. Folks, this is for real. And I am still not believe it. Canon, tough?! Cheers! :)
Lemmee get this straight...You walked for 4 kilometers in thick pouring rain and didnt put your 7D in a bag or at least put it under your jacket or anything? You just allowed it to be rained on full blast for an extended period of time. OK - so are you nuts or what?How can you expect us to take you seriously?
John: I've got plenty experience of MF. I've Shot Hasselblad, Phase, and S2. I bought a D800e. For the money - it's unbeatable.He's La La.
Pros making 5 or 6 figures a day?Are you including the cents figures?Or are you just delusional?
So there will be other Hassy/Sony models (a compact and a DSLR) that have design accents similar to my Lunar? Wow - so like it'll be a matched set. Maybe I should buy the whole set of them. Oh - OK then - why didnt you say so! Maybe charge 6000 Euros for the Lunar then, not 5000. Now I get it. By the way - how many people in that company are on drugs? Just the guys at the top? Or everyone?
Jon Ragnarsson: There is one digital camera missing from the digital flora: A large sensor mirrorless system camera. Put a 4x4cm sensor in it, (possibly squeeze it up to 5x5cm?) design a new 60mm normal and 100mm portarit lenses (even throw in a 30mm wide angle, if they have the resources), sell it with a Hasselblad SLR adapter, and call it a day. I think that kind of camera, especially with the reputation of Hasselblad, could make a few head turn, especially if they could keep the price close to Leica S.
These ideas sound feesible.But I fear the real truth is Hassy is broke and about 2 months away from bankruptcy, and so this last ditch cheapo attempt to screw a few suckers over for their cash is all they have left in the suggestion box. Like the last gasp of a dying and visionless corporation.
So much nonsnese from a person who obviously has no technical understanding. Amounts to a used car salesmans skills at best.Are we supposed to believe that some fancy materials account for the 5x price increase? What an insult to our collective intelligence.Same profit margin as everyone else?? Give me a break. This is a bald face lie and a sad comment on the scruples of those that run industry.I'd say that company is finished with that person at the helm.So sad really.
summicronf2: Like Omega! If you like it, buy it; if you don't like it, don't buy it! It's so easy.
Sorry - thats too deep for me.You must be one of those analytical types who tries to understand what goes on in the world and why, just for entertainment and mental stimulation exercise. Careful - don't overdo it bud.
Smaugg: This looks like something an upmarket Russian hooker would carry and be proud of.
Best laugh of the day - thanks!
It's a sad sad world we live in
onlooker: As a $1500 camera, it would have been a killer. I like replaceable screens, and I don't mind 11-point AF as long as the center point has high accuracy and low-light sensitivity. Silent shutter is great. So, all good on paper, except the price.
Agree, but the price means nada if the IQ is not impressive.All depends on the so called "new" sensor performance.Probably a rehash of a 5d2 sensor, slightly cropped. So it's not exactly a true full frame? A crop factor of 1.04? That won't fly I'm afraid.At least they had the smarts to put the 5D3 Microfocus tech in there. But they could nix the GPS and the WiFi and have a real winner at $1649. Hopefully the shutter won't be biting any biscuits, but how can you really depend on a rebel shutter? Hint - you can't. It can be quiet - OK but not dead!
Jim222: Wow, if the 6D falls short in the dynamic range tests, like many others I will be looking at Nikon. It will be interesting to see how the image quality tests stack up.
AH yes - the IQ! In this case of 6D it will be paramount.Yes, if the image quality is top notch, especially the upper end of DR, then along with the advanced microfocus from the 5D3 and the magnesium body, the same battery as 5D2 and the right price of under 2G, then this camera will be just what I like. I just need useful res with the best DR (betterthan 5D2) with well focused EF lenses. This 6D could be it. We'll see. Dont want to pay for a bunch of techno toys I dont need. So they could dump the GPS and the Wi-Fi and the video and many other things and sell it for $1699 and I still buy it. Problem is all the noobs who decide based on inclusion of techno toy useless features and so Canon has to cater to em. I mean does anybody really want/need an electronic level that is not precise enough to be useful? As do the car companies, they try and sell us a lot more than a camera. They think ... as long as they have their wallet open, lets sell em more stuff too, while were at it.
LoonSailor: For years, I shot with a view camera and loved the tilt-shift functionality, mostly for perspective control, which I really missed in SLRs. Now, though, with excellent perspective control available within Lightroom / photoshop, I don't really miss it nearly as much. Why is a tilt-shift lens better than a software-based correction? Is it primarily for depth of field control, or in order to use the entire frame more effectively (seems like not as big a deal with 30MP sensors), or to improve visualization at time of image capture? Or, is it just, somehow, "better"?
I want to want this lens, because it would be fun to play with and bring back great memories of my bellows days, but why does one NEED it?
Nobody really needs it unless controling plane of focus in studio work for small product. Or possibly making 40 inch prints of tall buildings shot from ground level and you don't want to sacrifice any res with the software. Other than that it's just a distraction from the other 500 things you already need to be thinking about while shooting. I doubt I'd ever buy one for my architectural work. Software works fine with finer control and u can see the adjustments on a monitor not a viewfinder which is way better.
Lee Jay: So, it's a T4i repackaged and with a lot of features removed (viewfinder, T/S LCD, flash, EF-mount, etc.), and you can't buy it with a kit zoom meaning the T4i with the kit zoom is actually quite a lot cheaper. P&S upgraders aren't going to want a prime and enthusiasts are going to want the missing features, so who is this thing targeted at?
richard2012: Incidentally, camera makers are going mirrorless simply to save money (no mechanical mirror box and required motor, no dedicated PDAF chip, no viewfinder metering chip), as a mirrorless is simply in a sense, a compact camera without its lens(albeit with a larger sensor)....so much cheaper to manufacture (just one or two boards). Removing mechanical adjustment (of mirror/screen/AF/metering chip) reduces production labor, time and costs. Err.., more importantly, increases profit(that is, until the next price war). The short flange back is a bonus, to make cameras not only more compact, but also more platable with the promise of ability to use legacy (MF) lenses. But, really, no maker wants their customers to use old lenses, but if such a feature sells more cameras, so be it. All makers hope that users will eventually prefer to buy new AF lenses in their new 'compact' mounts.In short, everyone is going mirrorless just to stay competitive (lowering manufacturing costs).
Simple - because they are trying to rip you off.Same old story for long time now from these companies.
David Hurt: May rent one with the 22mm lens to see how it performs.
Rent one of these? Where, @ local drug store? Har HarNo EVF, no addon optical and they still want that much money.The 18-55 looks way too large for this camera. Another joke camera from Canon it seems. All Canon APS_C and FF is 18MP except an old 12MP rebel and a 5d MII. WHat is that all about? Is a choice of native resolution too much to ask? SHeesh. And I gues it does not cost enough to expect a crummy built in flash neither. I'm not laughing at this joke.
You go to the gig and because the guy who hired you didn't have the knowledge or communications skills, now you have wrong equipment, no pre visualized concept, and are unprepared. What's worse, the other photogs have everything.So now your angry. Your first instinct is to just leave the scene.But wait - your a photographer and really need the money to keep up with equipment devalue at 50% first year and 30% second. So you do the job anyways, but find it hard to really give a darn, but your creative instincts say "do what you feel (which is angry)", be creative, ignore convention. And so you come up with poorly conceived work fueled by anger and some people see it as good becuse it's offbeat. The gun in my face shot is pure anger expression.It's not really appropriate and your career is hurt.If Klamar had an agent I think he is fired now.No agent? Why does the "hire a photog" job get handed down till it can go no lower, like a receptionist for example. That is the question!
lightsculpture: I wonder if painters go to websites like this and argue till their faces turn blue about "my brush is 5 points softer than yours" or "my canvas is 20% finer than yours'... hmmm
Yes, but synthetics have come a long way. Take a look at these polyester pants. You can't tell from silk. And anyways you need the matching paint chemistry to go with these synth brushes. Yak manes are over-rated. My Yak died last week anyways.
Groupcaptainbonzo: I am at a loss to understand the complaints about LEICA prices..Everybody knows that Leica are the Rolls Royce and come with a price to match. Why? because they can.You want cheap, there is a second hand "Happy times" camera on e-bay. You want top quality cheaper, may I suggest Cannon or Nikkon. You want Leica, may I suggest selling the house, car, wife and Kids...You KNOW it is going to cost.Half of the ability top produce results is the camera.Half of the ability of a camera to produce results is the "FEEL"that the photographer gets when he /she picks the camera up. a leica "FEELS" like no other camera. My shots with my EOS are nothing like my shots with my Leica. They are of the same tech specs, but "FEEL" Totally different.If I want a 50mm shot I can choose either set up. It depends on the "FEEL" that I am after, as to which one I use for the shot.
If you want a Leica, then only a Leica will do, and you are going to part with some serious money. But you already know that.
I have never heard so much ininformed bull in my life.And you spell won as "one"? You have zero cred in my eyes.The so called ability is from the creative talent of the photogs mind. The camera is just a dumb as a doorknob tool.You think if I use a 10,000 dollar chisel I can create a Michelagelo level sculpture? C'mon man. You know next to zero about photography apparently.
Never thought I would say this, but ....damn good squirell shot!
7 grand for a 50mm prime?Now I know there is a lot of mental illness in the world, but now I see that there is much more than I thought.Mental illness, mental ignorance, mental pride, mental retardation.And there will always be those such as Leica who will capitalize on the problem.It's sorta like how the lottery scams prey on gambling addicts.Shame on all those who take advantage of the mental illness and maladjusted minds of others.Shame on you Leica. It's time to ask yourself... exactly what is your contribution to society anyways?
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