Howard: It's a rather lame interview, the most important question, how Canon is doing in the sensor department, has not been even brought up. The Canon execs are just giving vague and sometimes conflicting replies, yes, still is important, see, we have the latest innovation for video; mirrorless is important, DSLR is also important too.
It's all corporate double-talk with not much substance in this entire interview.
Yes but it's not the interviewers fault. The questions were pointed and respectful. The answers were avoidant and disrespectful through ommision of the real information the interviewer obviously was after.It's part of the culture in Japan. As we saw/see during the Nuclear disaster, that useful information and/or the full truth is something kept close to the vest.
Allen Chernack: I tried the M + Auto ISO and for the most part if works well. One issue is when there is too much light and the ISO can't drop low enough. I was shooting at 1/500 and f8 and the ISO couldn't get low enough to avoid a blown out image. Realizing this I adjusted the f stop and things worked OK. The lens is a 70-300 which is nearly 500 with the Canon 60D so I use 1/500 shutter speed.
On a 5D2 you can enable "safety shift" in the special function section of the menu which would overide a manual setting to keep the correct exposure. But 5D2 does not have M + Auto ISO. It only works in Av or Tv mode. Safety shift should be an easy firmare fix for any camera with M + auto ISO. How long will we have to wait? lol.
cpkuntz: Too bad there is no M+Auto ISO exposure compensation. This is the main problem with it.
If you are careful not to get overexposed images from dark targets (therby unrecoverably blowing out the highlights, then shooting raw allows loads of EC during conversion to Tiff or Jpeg.
The 70-200 FE.First Sony said available in Feb.Now its Mid April.Might even actually see one in the stores by fall.
What a cheapo way to introduce a new sytem.Hold back the 70-200. Just brilliant. Sheesh.
Ya - I know - the adapter for the existing 70-200 models.Well if i wanted to pay a bundle more AND have my body to look like it belonged in a Flintstones movie, I'd buy it. So, no.
munro harrap: I was put off Olympus and Fuji's little machines for the same reason as the NEX sony equivalent s- the lenses. If you bother to look at downloadable samples you can see why everyone is trading theirs in. (Look at the LCE and Park cameras sites) These zoom lenses need enormous correction at wide-angle. This correction destroys the border resolution, and my concern for full-frame mirrorless is that the same will apply for wide-angle lenses. AS there is no mirror these lenses are cheaper and easier to design and make (yes Leitz!), but as mentioned here, they are being underdesigned to maximise profits and photographers suffer as a result. You are not paying less, for the new Sony A7 lenses you are overpayingl. On paper the tests pass muster, just (see Photozone.de or the Optix Pro site), but notably the squished mashed appearance of the photographs themselves (the only thing that counts) escapes tests, but not our eyes.Or can I not see for the tears?
I agree with your astute assertions.Understanding the business is key to understanding the camera.This is where so many pundits fail in their analysis of a system.
ArcaSwiss: This forum is a hoot. I've never seen so much bickering anywhere outside of a courtroom
I know- sad ain't it.A true reflection of the sick society we live in.
NCB: Sony deserves credit for producing an innovative camera which is capable, under the right circumstances, of producing excellent pics, and all in a light and compact body, for a full frame camera. BUT GOLD? Seems to me DPR has shrunk the market this camera is supposedly aimed at to the point it can consider that award. Fact is, it has quite a lot of minuses, ones which rivals from Canon and Nikon don't possess. It should be judged against the market those cameras are aimed it. It's a good first attempt from Sony, but GOLD implies that it's outstanding in its market, which, unless you shrink the market as I indicated, it patently isn't.
They deserve credit do they?For what? Trying to enrich themselves through business ventures? I'll give them credit - how about all the cash they want at 10% a year? If they default it jumps to 20% per month.
Lets see a serious review on the Sony FE 70-200 f4 OS.It costs 1500 smackers. More than the legendary Canon IS version.
One would suppose it's an even better lens.Pffftttt.
I'm not holding my breath over this vapourware that should define the usefulness of the system. All the other Zeiss for Sony products have been only so-so. Why should things change now, er I mean in the future?
armandino: the big attraction to me for a wonderful FF mirrorless is the true advantage over an SLR: the minimum distance from the optics to the sensor. When am I going to see superwide angles that truly take advantage of this?
When micro lens layers on sensors add a grand to the price of a camera. Non retro focus lenses are great, but not on digital sensors. I'm talking image quality here. Of course if you want to have fancy dancy video focusing features on your still camera well then image quality can take a hike. Manufacturers hope most consumers wont think this far. And their hopes are not in vain. LMAO.Oh and manufacturers maximize their profit margins making non retrofocus designs. The new non retrofocus designs should be cheaper and better, but they are not. It's a major shafting.
abortabort: I think DPR should have included some actual coverage of the LA-EA4 Alpha adapter. Adaption of lenses in covered more properly in other reviews by DPR and despite the SLT adapters being available for a couple of years are seem mostly to have been ignored.
This adapter isn't 'just' for adapting lens mounts, it actually adds significant functionality to the whole camera, by adding a second AF system (with motor drive supporting the mount fully going back 30 years), it actually converts this mirrorless camera into a fully fledged DSLR (DSLT). That is not only quite an achievement, it means that cameras like the A7 and A7R become convertibles - One camera to cover many use cases. No longer having to choose between buying a mirrorless or a DSLR.
Is it perfect? Is there confusion about what it is for? This is why some in depth coverage by DPR on what it IS for as well as how well / badly it works is more important than the assumption 'it's just another clunky adapter'.
The adapter, as all adapters, just adds another layer of manufacturing tolerance variability to the mix. Don't we already have enough of that stuff in our rigs already?Simple is better for a reason.
Kid Plutonium: One small niggle: could you DPR guys please stop saying: "...processor, dubbed Bionz X for reasons that presumably made sense to someone..." every time you mention the Bionz X processor? I've read this exact same phrase three or four times since the Alpha 7/7r was announced.
It's a cut n paste world out there.Read between the lines to get the real message, if there even is one.
Roland Karlsson: Being Swedish, this is embarrassing.
This "thing", who is the intended buyer?
Lottery winners with Holgas.
It's just depressing to see the industry aim to defraud know nothing rich people with nonsense like this. How do the folks that work for that fallen manufacturer sleep at night. Maybe they don't since the previous ridiculous experiments, and that explains this bogus foray into the near criminal fraud world. Expect things to get even worse. It's a death spiral and might even be some sort of narcotics involved in the corporate culture there.
Everything depends on that 50-140 f2.8 vapourware.One day we'll see what's up with this system.
Light Pilgrim: same sensor again and again and again and again?
ya, I know - I guess they think we won't notice. lmao.
Sony - as long as it's something Sony thinks can give an advantage over the competition, its a good to go product. There is no single employee responsible for the overall integrity or completeness of any system. Some minolta lenses left over from film days they still try to peddle to the unsuspecting. And way overpriced, and nothing special stuff from Zeiss . Tamron CA city products from 15 years ago etc. They need a leader who's been steeped in the industry to save thier disorganized bacon. Look at the specs for their 70-200mm f2.8G. Look at the performance and the price. What a joke. It's not just Sony.Huge corps trying to empty our wallets. Price fixing at the distributor and retail levels that go unchallenged. Lenses that are non- retrofocus designs, yet still have same price as retrofocus models yet no better quality. All benefit of less complexity goes into profits and nothing comes our way in lower prices or better performance. They can all bite me, I'm not buying a thing.
Vlad S: Those who wanted a square sensor so much can buy A7 now and shoot with APS-C lenses uncropped. Done!
best laugh I had all day - thanks. hehehe
REDred Photo: It seems to me the problem here is in mismanaged expectations and perspective. Consumers seem to expect every new product should improve on every possible specification from megapixels and ISO to battery life. The reality is there are always trade offs. Sony has built the highest resolution 35mm sensor currently available into the smallest possible interchangeable lens form factor.
Many people are comparing the a7/a7r to the em1, which has a sensor 1/4 the size and half the resolution in a body roughly the same size. But this camera isn't meant to be an em1. If you want those capabilities, buy the em1. This a7r provides the highest resolution sensor ever available in a body that allows me to adapt virtually any manual focus lens ever made in the history of photography. It's insane to expect auto focus lenses from other systems to adapt without trade offs in performance. It's silly to expect a 36 megapixel camera with 2 electronic screens and who knows how much internal processing to get the same battery life as other cameras with dramatically smaller sensors and larger bodies.
A Sony rep recently loaned the a7r to me for testing. The first thing I did was remove the zoom lens he included and attached my Contax Zeiss manual focus lenses. It's a marvel to have what is effectively a digital contax S2. For most of my work, I shoot hasselblad with an older Phase One tethered back. It's a slow combination... Difficult to focus... Large and heavy... Not portable in the least... I can't shoot slower than 1/125 without camera shake unless I'm using a 30lb tripod or studio flashes... My usable ISO is 50 or 100... And there are literally zero image options besides white balance. And yet the results are stunning... But I never use it for weddings or theater photography. For that I use an em1.
To me, the a7r is a baby hasselblad with more resolution than my current digital back, battery power, infinite lens adaptability with potential for Zeiss tilt/shift adapters, incredible ISO range, live view focus peaking, some choices for auto focus, weather sealing, Wi-Fi, intervalometer, AND video that is as good or better than anything out there in this price range... And it costs less than $3000!??!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! Shut up and take my money!
You don't mean you shoot weddings professionally with an EM1 - do you? You must mean just for personal purposes. Right? Because at weddings you need "the conch shell" or you get no cred. Surely you know that. yes?
DT200: Interesting point someone made. If you take the A7 with any of its native lenses, you can find the EM1 and a similar native lens that makes a smaller package and gives you close to a stop or more light. Oh, and the EM1 combos cost less too.Why does this matter? If you check DxO the difference in DR is usually around only 1/2 a stop (at most ISOs) and for noise very close to that 1 stop difference (for most ISOs).So when you do a comparison with native lenses, the EM1 is smaller, costs less, gives the same or better IQ according to DxO, gives you IS with each lens, focuses faster, and focuses more reliably in low light. The only win for the A7 is slightly less DoF, which often is not a good thing.FE 35 F/2.8 vs. 20mm F/1.7 (more than 1 stop and no A7 IS)FE 24-70 F/4 vs. 12-35 F/2.8FE 55 F/1.8 vs. 25mm F/1.4 (less than 1 stop but no A7 IS)FE 70-200 F/4 vs. 35-100 F/2.8
So you say a 4/3 sensor gives the same or better IQ as a Sony 24MP full frame sensor? Or at least DXO says so? Maybe you want to check your facts and or give your head a shake. lol. Question is, how do you get better photographs (better, meaning having compositional value to shock, please, inspire or communicate a message - and the answer has nothing to do with how you interpret DXo technical info. I'm not saying anything, I'm just saying.
Avoden: Another commenter said Picture Window Pro 6. I've seen some excellent results from it!
It's on my short list when I finally need to upgrade from CS6.
I've been using this professionally for more than 10 years.I statrted at Pro 2.5 and now at 6.0. Get the Pro version does 48 bit and batching.Very nice.It's written by a photographer/programmer and has everything a photographer needs and nothing he does not. I always knew Adobe would go for the throat and never went there. Now I'm glad I didn't.