AbrasiveReducer: The problem is not cell phones. The problem is that cameras are already good enough. For every guy with a D800, a 14-24 and a tripod, there are 1000 who are happy with what they have, or not willing to spend what it would take to get something significantly better.
Very few people have a genuine need for a specific level of image quality. Want? Sure. Need? No. The notion that a camera or sensor is stale or out of fashion does not work when the results people get from what they already own fulfill their expectations.
Yep. Cameras today are damned good. Sell more copiers and let the phones have the compact market.
W5JCK: As long as Canon continues to sit on its corporate backside and turn out lackluster improvements that are merely minor updates to cameras long ago released, they will continue to slide. They need to innovate and push the envelope. Minor tweaks to outdated designs just won't cut it in today's market. That is why so many of us have jumped off the Canon wagon in search of better equipment.
I don't mind that they're not "pushing the envelope". What Canon excels at is rock-solid dependable equipment. I rely on my cameras for my livelihood - they're tools. Last thing I need is someone pulling the rug out from under the system few months just to try and snag some rich, retired guy's hobby money.
And no-one can touch their 24mm TSE lens. Nobody's tried to.
OUTRAGEOUS! How dare they make improvements to their camera and then offer it up to people who want to buy it!
OK, I've been watching tutorials on-line all morning and playing with the new DPP - this is really wonderful. I haven't used it for years because the UI was so non-intuitive and clumsy - I don't know if that's only just a recent improvement or not... But the results are MUCH better than what I've been getting from Adobe Raw - tone gradations are much more natural looking, more realistic and three dimensional. ACR has alway had a sort of posterizing effect, but I've put up with it because the controls are second to none - of raw converters I've used, anyway - and I just couldn't figure out how to get similar results from DPP.
One request if Canon is reading this: give us a filter window like Adobe Bridge has that lets you filter images by aperture and by ISO. This is important for architectural work so the f8, slow exposures can be separated from the higher speed people-blur exposures...
Very happy camper.
I worship everything Sony and loath EVERYTHING else! Or wait. I meant Canon! Or. Just a minute......
justmeMN: "To the peanut gallery, the so-called experts..."
This ad is clearly targeting DPR users. :-)
"Photo enthusiasts" can't be pleased. They're outraged at EVERY imperfection. They want 4x5 quality from their phones.
fastlass: I'm probably speaking for most of us when I say that Nikon seems to have poisoned 200 years of photography with this move.
Fastlass, honey - you need to sit down and breath through your nose...
Michael Ma: Amazing concept. Although, just skimming through these, I think your time would be better invested in something like Lynda.com for online learning. I don't disagree with the importance of a degree and having to go through a system getting one but Professors, although they do certainly possess valuable information that you want and need, don't necessarily make good teachers or presenters. If you've ever taught, a big part of the lesson plan is figuring out how to fill the 50 minutes or 80 minutes, which often results in a lot of endless droning of slides and creative ways to fill time.
Why not a carefully crafted 15 minute lecture that inspires and moves, and a few key takeaway concepts? Some students would complain that they are not getting their money's worth.
That carefully crafted 15 minute lecture may take 40 hours of research, planning, and prep. Instead you can just put 30 slides together and wing it based on your knowledge, and hopefully some of what you say will be absorbed.
I second B CRAW's comments. Higher education should be more than "down-loading course material". Ideally it's an environment a student can escape into, to immerse him/herself in for a while outside of the real world and question, experiment, reflect. The professor doesn't need to be a know-it-all, end-all resource. He/she needs to be an instigator, a provocateur, a coach. Someone who can push the student beyond their comfort zone and status quo.
And to Michael Ma, that's a poor teacher who has to "figure out" how to fill class time. That guy is punching his time card, not education students.
foto guy: Who cares? These and other cameras can shoot a decent pic at quite high ISOs. Do you think you folks could focus on something important for a change? Perhaps photography, for instance.
Photography? I thought this site was about cameras!
Kiril Karaatanasov: DPREVIEW guys do you think many D4s users shoot JPEG? Can you compare RAW files e.g. d4 vs d4s? Also is 5d mk3 and A7 in same league at all? How about 1Dx? Best will be test against A7s which seems to be closest in terms of sensor to D4s
"That's because creating a JPEG in the camera is an engineer's artwork. "
That's why all the best photographers are engineers. Artists suck! I'm not going to take another picture until I can buy a camera engineered to know what I want photos of. How do I know what a good photo is? Ask an engineer!
OceanFroggie: Nice camera wrong mount. If the non canikon also rans produced stunning cameras like this with either the Canon or Nikon mount they would sell more bodies.
I use a Canon professionally because they are the only ones who make a 24mm t+s with no distortion and the only ones who make a 17mm t+s at all. For years now on both counts. And that's only the beginning of what they do well. But what about FEATURES?! My Canon can't makes calls!
gsum: "rare meteorological event" -
It's not rare and it's not meteorological. Couldn't be bothered reading the rest of the article after that.
Sorry, Joriarty; no level-headed rational responders allowed. I don't know how you got in past the guards.
Oh ma GAWD!
And I hear there is a new Canon WTF in the works... And a Nikon LMAO... And a Fuji... oh never mind.
Upcoming poll: Hammer - vs- Screwdriver? Which is the BEST?
Designing photographer-friendly cameras ought to be more "tautological"? Really?
Oh, yeah - and I am one of those "stupid enough". I like to think I'm more than JUST stupid enough...
OK, I'm softening on my anger at Adobe. $10/month isn't so bad - especially now it includes some cloud storage - which is fairly useless still because you can't up-load folders, but I suspect they'll fix that eventually. Dropbox and others charge nearly as much for storage alone.
And I understand that they need to make a return on their investment. PS is the very best and I gotta have it for what I do for my livelihood. They deserve compensation.
I've owned an FM, an FM2 and an FM3a in years past - so I've probably got a target on my back for one of these silly things. But, no thanks. The original FM was a lean, rugged, straight-forward photo-taking instrument. This thing is nostalgia bait for snagging doctors' and bankers' dollars.
I love it. This is a great idea and I hope Canon takes note. I can see this being the future for wide angle lenses that have had to deal with that mirror-flipping space. Maybe the next generation of wide TS lenses can be designed without any distance constraints on that inner-most element and be lighter, brighter, sharper, prettier... And while I'm making requests of Canon, how about put the tripod mount on the lens in such a way that the CAMERA shifts, not the lens? Like an Arca-Swiss R series body...