ruicarv79: I would love to know the criteria behind these "Readers' Showcase" choices. Another dull, meaningless photographer. What's so special about these photos? Cannot understand, really. Sorry but can't help not expressing my opinion.
@ruicarv79 When I see comments like yours, I often check to see if the commenter has a gallery and photos to back up their empty criticism of good photos. On DPR normally the commenter has no photos to show, or their photos are not particularly good. In your case, you actually have good photos. I'm surprised you don't recognize this photographer does too.
chj: "Our final concern is the lack of joystick or touchscreen to re-position the AF point"
Sony would have gotten a sale from me a long time ago if they'd just fix this glaring omission in their lineup.
from Gordon Laing @ cameralabs.com. "I've spoken to Sony about my concerns on several occasions and understand there's some cultural resistance to touchscreens and full articulation with a perception in some markets that they're not professional. In my experience, those who don't like touchscreens on cameras generally haven't used them. Those who have used them rarely want to go back to a camera without, and besides, you can always turn off the feature if you hate it."
If you read the full review, Gordon seems to agree, the main thing missing is touchscreen. This camera with a touchscreen will kill all other cameras. Sony, stopping listening to idiots who want to twiddle knobs, the rest of us want to get the shot.
"Our final concern is the lack of joystick or touchscreen to re-position the AF point"
halfwaythere: I just find so funny how Canon simply slapped Nikon in the face.
The G7x II is smaller, has a longer focal range and maintains a larger aperture through it compared to the DL24-85. Back to the drawing board Nikon.
@halfwaythere The larger aperture is Canon's advantage compared to the Nikon, but the Panasonic LX100 beats Canon in the aperture game. Meanwhile, the Nikons have no rival in the compact continuous shooting/continuous autofocus game. That said, aperture may be more important to me as long as the Canon's autofocus is competitive. So the GX7 Mark II promises to be a perfect camera for me. But, Canon's compact continuous shooting/autofocus has been FAR behind the competition for some time now. So I wouldn't get too happy about this camera yet. It looks promising, but Canon has not slapped ANYONE in the face with innovation for many years.
timo: I'm still amazed that so many people are willing to buy cameras without EVFs - waving them around at arms' length. If there is a similarly upgraded G5X soon, that could be interesting. The new G7X is cute, certainly, but ...
@timo Inherently less stable, OK I agree, but in how many situations does that actually make a difference? A photo at the right angle is much more important than a shake free photo. Some of my photos have some shake, but MANY of my photos are IMPOSSIBLE with an EVF. Besides, if you're often forced to shoot at shutter speeds where shake becomes an issue, or you're so unsteady that you can't hold the camera still, then you should be using a tripod.
@timo and pedroMZ All depends on the autofocus. I have a Panasonic, the autofocus is terrific. Combined with the touchscreen it will get MANY shots you missed trying to focus manually. AND it allows you to do this from any angle, at arms length.
And the Panasonic doesn't have any image stabilization at all. I can hold the camera still at arms length. My photos aren't shaky. The Canon actually has some image stabilization. I remember my old S100 had more than enough IS for me. Shake will not be a problem.
I'm still amazed on how blindly so many people insist on using an EVF. You say "waving them around at arms' length" like it's a disadvantage. It's objectively a huge advantage compared to having a camera glued to your eye.
chj: The DL24-85 24-85mm equiv. F1.8-2.8. Please tell me that touchscreen flips 180. If so, my perfect camera has finally arrived. (well actually I'd prefer even brighter)
answering my own question, yes, that touchscreen flips 180.
maximme: if its all about selfiethen shouldn't it have a selfie friendly shutter button ???
@junk1 yes, it also has very good remote operation through your phone
I can't believe some of the comments. If these cameras perform to specs, these camera are freakin' SICK.
The DL24-85 24-85mm equiv. F1.8-2.8. Please tell me that touchscreen flips 180. If so, my perfect camera has finally arrived. (well actually I'd prefer even brighter)
chj: The extremely poor continuous RAW shooting of the original G7X (a pitiful 1 fps) is what prevented a purchase. Hopefully that has been remedied. But I'm not sure. What is the continuous AUTOFOCUS RAW shooting like? If it's at least 4-5 fps, then I'm going to buy this.
thank you, looks like a purchase
Mike FL: It is sad to see Panasonic is aged and going down.
It was a good camera maker.
BTW, Olympus has Beauty mode for years for all P&S, but not in the newer OMD that I guess Beauty mode is not too popular.
FWIW, below is OMD EM5 Beauty mode:
It still works just as well as other Panasonic m4/3rds, it just ADDS selfie functions. How does adding functions make it "aged and going down"? Yes Olympus has better IBIS, but Panasonic has better autofocus and is smaller and more portable. I shoot at fast shutter speed, so IBIS is not necessary, I'd much rather have the portability and fast autofocus.
chj: To Panasonic: My main criticism of the GF7/GF8. Make the iA button re-assignable. It's ridiculous that a camera with so few buttons has one permanently assigned for dummies. If you change this, in my book, you will have made the perfect camera (well I might still ask for weatherproofing).
actually one more criticism, continuous shooting should not be so crippled when using the selfie functions. I'd love to be able to use the fn1 button as a shutter button, but I have turned off ALL of the selfie functions because I still want continous shooting/autofocus when the screen is flipped 180.
pacnwhobbyist: It will probably sell well in its target market. It doesn't seem like a bad little camera. It has the touch screen and the kit lens is compact and fairly sharp. The sensor is pretty good. Nice and compact. AF is probably quick like most Panny cameras. It actually might a nice little street camera.
it is the best street camera
makofoto: I don't understand why it doesn't have a wider faster lens ... that autocorrects for wide angle distortion on faces?
There are excellent wider faster lenses available. It's a m4/3rds camera, so it has an amazing selection of lenses. The kits lens that comes with it is also excellent. You will not find any other lens as portable and as sharp. Like almost ALL kit lenses, the main drawback is it won't perform well in low light.
@maximme It does, the fn1 button can be used as a shutter button when the 180 screen is flipped up. which is good if you're right handed. It also has buddy and face shutter features that work well and don't require any shutter button at all. However, I agree with Mike FL, with all this selfie marketing, it should be able to use selfie stick shutter buttons as well.
ajay0612: This camera is best avoided. It compromises the fundamentals of photography by excluding EVF, a must when you spend so much money. It although OK for landscapes but won't be good enough for portraits due to its f2.9-4.5 equivalent DOF of APS-C DSLRs. If pocketability is major issue for some, then go for G5x, RX100IV but avoid this one.
EVF is so overrated, a touchscreen with good autofocus is much better in 95% of situations. You can't get overhead or low shots with an EVF. You can't get candid shots with an EVF, because everyone knows when you're taking a photo. The only time you need an EVF is if you're taking really close, detailed, manual focus, tripod macro shots. Even in situations with bright sunlight behind you, you don't need an EVF. In such situations, your subject is lit with fantastic sunlight. Autofocus won't be a problem. If you can't compose using your imagination in such a situation, well you lack the vision to compose well in the first place.
The extremely poor continuous RAW shooting of the original G7X (a pitiful 1 fps) is what prevented a purchase. Hopefully that has been remedied. But I'm not sure. What is the continuous AUTOFOCUS RAW shooting like? If it's at least 4-5 fps, then I'm going to buy this.
Jote: I thought that after G5X and G9X the G7X would be killed off. Seriously, is there a point to have that many similar cameras in the prosumer compact segment?
IMO opinion there was no point in the g5x and g9x. The G7X was the only one they needed. Now that is has decent RAW continuous shooting, there is no reason to get the others.