I tried it in the store. Unfortunately the selfie mode is severely crippled. Continuous shooting is about 1 fps. I was hoping this was the camera to take spontaneous, dynamic, not so posed shots, but unfortunately it's only good for the same kind of (fishface) selfies many other cameras can already take.
QuarryCat: unfair Test!Sigma on Nikon is slowerCanon 1.2/50 mm or even the new 1.8/50 mm are a lot faster in dark and get through -3 EV.And who shoots like this, faces in the dark?Take a good flash and Canon and you get it.The Sony guys take so hard to justify the high price Sony -but if you look at all the tests with metabones and Canon lenses - Sony is lost and years behind a DSLR - even with the better Canon lenses.
The Alpha 7 Series is good for some thinks but not at all an all rounder, nor that much better in high dynamic then 5DSR.No need to buy Sony yet... it is a hard road...
"And who shoots like this, faces in the dark?"I do. The reason very few do, is because their camera can't do it.
"Take a good flash and Canon and you get it."Flash photos in low light suck. ANY camera with a flash will get it. But the result looks NOTHING like what you were looking at and why you wanted to take a photo in the first place.
chj: AF is better in a Nikon, Sony, Panasonic, Samsung, and Olympus. So basically Fuji has the worst autofocus in the industry. So it's good for stationary subjects and cameras. Just about ANY camera can take good photos if the subject and camera are completely stationary. Fuji's reputation for the best color in the industry doesn't make up for it even remotely. You can easily adjust color. You can't fix bad focus. There is nothing more frustrating than a camera that can't lock on.
I can guess the response from many at DPR. "Use manual focus." Well it seems you have to with a Fuji. P.S. I'll put my money on Panasonic's AF against any experienced manual focuser in a tight focus shootout anyday.
@forpetessakeYour question: " 'AF is better in a Nikon, Sony, Panasonic, Samsung, and Olympus" -- and where did you get that information from?"Answer: the DPR review above
Your reply to my statement:" 'You can easily adjust color' -- you must be very inexperienced and naive. Every camera has a very different color signature and it can be very difficult or impossible getting colors you want if a camera doesn't cooperate."My answer: You must be very inexperienced and naïve at shooting and editing RAW. So just let Fuji handle it, you'll be fine. :P
@yzhenkai I stand corrected. Yes, Fuji has a great stable of lenses.
Rod McD: It's interesting to see the evolution of DPR's views about touchscreens. It has evolved to be simply a "con" to not have one.
I disagree. Part of the appeal of Fuji's ergonomics is their analogue control. I can't see how touchscreen control would integrate with dials. Fuji has very deliberately headed in the analogue direction - and with business success. Quite why the reviewer thinks it is a con not to have one in a camera designed to offer analogue core controls and why other posters think it fits within that design goal is beyond me. If you want a mirror-less camera with a touchscreen, there are plenty on offer. For me and many others, a touchscreen would be a deal-breaker.
@darngooddesign your reply reveals you don't realize what a touchscreen with good autofocus opens up. Move the AF box with a D-pad? That is pre-historically slow. Touchscreen with good autofocus is nearly instantaneous, you think it, you take it.
@darngooddesign so who else is there in the industry? Canon is the only company who is not mentioned in this review among those that are better at autofocus. But from what I've read, it seems Fuji is behind Canon in AF as well. So yes Fuji is the worst in the industry in AF. Fuji has color, that's it, face it.
@dpgreg I edited my post during your reply. As I said in my edit. I expect many to reply "use manual focus". Well all of the competition has that also. And as I said in my edited reply, my Panasonic AF will do better, in more situations, even if you are very good at manual focus. So the ONLY advantage Fuji has is good color, which it does have, but which is easily corrected with editing.
@darngooddesign Uh, no. This review states that this camera has the latest autofocus firmware benefits and still lags behind the competition. You obviously haven't used the competition, which apparently smokes Fuji.
You haven't used a touchscreen with good autofocus. There is no glory in toggling controls that achieve a lesser result than the latest technology.
AF is better in a Nikon, Sony, Panasonic, Samsung, and Olympus. So basically Fuji has the worst autofocus in the industry. So it's good for stationary subjects and cameras. Just about ANY camera can take good photos if the subject and camera are completely stationary. Fuji's reputation for the best color in the industry doesn't make up for it even remotely. You can easily adjust color. You can't fix bad focus. There is nothing more frustrating than a camera that can't lock on.
Sorry, but this is similar to photographers who focus on shooting graffiti. The architects and graffiti artists may deserve praise, but unless you are really adding something more to it in your photo, it's not your art. In these photos, I don't see the photographer adding enough to call it his own.
great street shots
absolutely gorgeous photos
Was there any mention of weather sealing? For me, that's the most significant improvement.
Sir Nick of High Point: Sweet! Part of me wishes that they would delete the LCD screen. The whole Leica philosophy involves keeping your head up and eyes peeled, not buried in a useless tiny screen.
probably is more stable, but your original comment is about "keeping your head up and eyes peeled", which is much easier with a good touchscreen
You've obviously never used LCD, especially not one with good tap to focus. Your eyes are MUCH more buried in the camera when using a viewfinder.
forpetessake: Last time I shot with Panasonic was 4 years ago. I didn't like it because of poor colors. Now 4 models later Panasonic still has the same poor colors... On the other hand they make very good rice cookers... Maybe they should stick with that.
I love Panasonic color. A slight white balance adjustment is often all I need in terms of color adjustment. Color palette is always a matter of taste. Your photos clearly favor a warm approach. Some might consider Panasonic a little dry, but the balance between the colors is excellent, no colors are favored over others. If you like warmer, simply adjust accordingly. Depending on your taste, other manufacturers could be considered overly warm and saturated in comparison.
chj: "GF7’s 180 degree flip-up screen. It’s great for taking selfies, but not so useful if you’re trying to take overhead shots at a concert"
Just hold the camera upside down
Um, no you would use your thumb for the shutter button.
"GF7’s 180 degree flip-up screen. It’s great for taking selfies, but not so useful if you’re trying to take overhead shots at a concert"
Perfect! Thank you Panasonic! Please offer it in body only, or better yet, packaged with the 15mm f/1.7