The link to the unfavorable review calls this "a hackneyed poster in a posh hotel." Hah! As if it's easy to create something that looks good in a posh hotel.
If you were a billionaire that wanted art, something you could hang on your wall to make it look posh might be exactly you're looking for, right?
I like my photos, but actually, very few of them would look particularly good on a wall. To all the critics, would your photos look at home on the wall of a billionaire's residence? Because this one is going to look fantastic.
◾Long screen blackout during live view shooting◾No AF with continuous shooting in live view
I can't believe anyone puts up with this for a camera at this price point.
daddyo: I guess I don't get the real purpose/benefit of this camera.Based on the Studio Test Scene, the Olympus E-M10 offers obviously better IQ at high ISO's. It also has built-in flash, a higher magnification LCD and EVF, a tilting LCD, IBIS, and a reasonable grip -- just to name a few advantages, not to mention a $200 lower price tag.
While I understand that the GM5 is a bit smaller and lighter, one still has to carry the clip on flash and a lens or two. If the idea is to simply use the GM5 with only the 12-32mm lens so you can stuff it in a pocket, what's the point of interchangeable lens design? Why not simply get one of the top tier P&S cameras with a reasonable zoom range - something like the Sony RX100 III?
I have a GM1, it is not pocketable, maybe with the 20mm f/1.7, but not really. It's small size still makes it extremely convenient to carry around on a neckstrap. Yes, the small size still makes a difference, I have not seen many people on the dance floor with a DSLR around their neck, it's no problem with the GM1.
But the main advantage over an Olympus is autofocus speed, especially in low light. From Camera Labs:
"Indeed the GM1's low light AF is not only better than any other compact camera, but better even than most system cameras or DSLRs. The GM1, GX7 and G6 will simply focus more confidently in low light than almost any other camera on the market. It's a major advantage for anyone shooting in low light."
"A kit with the Leica DG Summilux 15mm F1.7 ASPH lens has appeared in the UK for £950 but doesn't look to be available in the US."
I have a GM1, I love it. I also love all the improvements in the GM5; however, they are still not enough to trigger an upgrade purchase. I've also been eyeing the Leica DG Summilux 15mm F1.7 ASPH lens for some time now, but I know I'll only use it in specific situations, so it may never get purchased.
If I could get the GM5 with the 15mm, it would be an instant purchase.
I have to pay $2395 for an obsolete camera that is uglier than the original, when I can get the better looking original for $600? As laughable as the Leica versions of the Panasonic cameras are, at least they actually look a little better. This is butt ugly. You can't make cameras, your designers have no clue, your price shows no understanding of price elasticity. A company with no technical, aesthetic, OR business savvy. Yeah, I think we all know where this is going.
chj: To Sony (and all camera manufacturers)
Put a damn touchscreen on your cameras. It is by far the best way to choose a focus point. Anyone that says otherwise has simply not used one and is exalting their "skill" in getting around their camera's limitations. Technology trumps skill. You can't get faster, more reliable autofocus than my GM1 (unless you have another Panasonic). Don't tell me about workarounds. The GM1 nails focus more often.
OK, manual focus can get tighter focus on a stationary subject that's willing to wait for you to set up. But with that kind of time, ANY camera can get tight focus.
So stop listening to photo geeks that equate touchscreens with bad phone photos. On a GOOD camera, a touchscreen is an immensely powerful tool that has more impact on photos than pixel peeping details.
Feedback from DPR photo geeks is 0.005% of the market. The other 99.095% are using touchscreen phones. The camera market is shrinking, because you are listening to the wrong market.
Looks like you mainly shoot stills, like many photographers do. Because getting focus on moving subjects is generally much harder on most cameras. A touchscreen camera with good autofocus removes this hurdle.
You'll be slower. You'd only prefer a viewfinder if you haven't used a touchscreen camera with good autofocus. Yes, even in bright light, when I can barely see the screen, I can still get faster, more reliable autofocus than a camera with a viewfinder. It's actually immensely easy in this situation. If my screen is hard to see because of bright sunlight, that means my subject is bathed in bright sunlight. In this situation, the GM1's autofocus is dead on, 100% of the time. Compose all you want in your viewfinder, but you may have already missed the best shot. There's only one situation where a viewfinder is better. VERY low light, when autofocus has to hunt. The GM1 is excellent at low light autofocus, so we're talking about SUPER dark environments.
To Sony (and all camera manufacturers)
I want it badly, but right now it is far too expensive. As capable as it is for such a thin camera, it's still very limited in use. It isn't even designed for the one thing it should excel at, SELFIES. Yes, I said it, selfies, just look around you and ask if that isn't the number one thing a phone camera is good for.
So while this should be the best selfie cam ever, it doesn't even have a flip screen or reverse camera. It's a huge omission. It's the perfect device, size, and focal length for selfies, yet it's not designed to take them.
Yes I know you can take "blind" selfies, but if you've tried, you know this doesn't work as well as being able to see the shot.
I also know plenty of DPR's will look down on selfies, but that's only because there are so many BAD selfies out there. Very few good cameras are designed to take selfies, so of course bad selfies are what we see. Where's the camera that lets good photographers take good photos of themselves? (Because my friends suck at it)
Wow, quite a glowing review. Just fix this and it's a purchase:"Manually positioning the AF point is disappointingly fiddly ... It's unquestionably a camera that would benefit from a touch screen."
I hope it comes with a portable tripod.
illiterate: Have dpreview contacted Canon about the slow 1fps RAW performance? It is 2014, such slow performance is no way by design, it is a bug, a defect, that Canon need to address.
It's not a bug, Canon's compact division has not gotten the memo that 1 fps shooting is a bit behind acceptable. Just a bit. It's the number one reason I won't buy this camera.
compare results to any Panasonic, very similar despite being APS-C
Ugh, accd'g to Camera Labs, 1.35 fps continuous RAW shooting. Deal breaker.
Note: this photo has been edited in Lightroom to show the banding very clearly. The original photo is extremely dark and the bands are not nearly as obvious.
ThePhilips: DPR, do you have any "agents" in the Europe?
I'd love to see indoors shots with the cam - with the 50Hz mains, and hopefully different kind of bulbs.
In Germany, e-shutter on my GX7 is useless due to the banding with the fluorescent and halogen lights. Haven't tried the LED lights, but they are still rare novelty. But fluorescent (energy saving) lights are literally everywhere.
Are you sure it's the e-shutter that is the culprit? I have a GM1 and noticed banding in some low light photos. But I discovered it's a flaw in the 20mm f/1.7 lens. I returned the 20mm f/1.7 and have never encountered the issue again.
Is this the kind of banding you're talking about?
(Note: exposure/shadows are turned up drastically in Lightroom to show the banding very clearly, the original photo is not this bad)
Sabatia: Its obvious from many of the comments below that too many commenters are comparing this to the or their GX7, EM1/5/10, etc. What makes this camera special is not its image quality--which is right up there--not its evf, not its flash or lack thereof, not its .... No, it is its weight and its size, both of which are groundbreaking in an interchangeable lens camera with a decent size sensor and any sort of evf. I know from having a GM1 that the image quality of the GM5 will allow me to make 17x22 professional-quality prints on my Epson 3880.
Combined with the 12-32 lens, which is the lightest zoom lens for any camera I am aware of and which is capable of taking excellent quality shots and which goes meaningfully wider than 14-xx zooms, you have a superlight highly capable kit perfect for mountain climbing, skiing and discreet travel and street shooting alike.
For me this is all about my back, and my shoulders, and my feet--and my eyes!
@aris14 No!!! The true measure of a photographer is how adept one is at manipulating one's equipment! I don't want to put out great photos, I want to fiddle with knobs. I want to show how "pro" I am by talking about technical specs. Who cares that all my photos are boring? Oh wait, no one knows that, because even though I talk on DPR all the time, I don't even have any photos to show! But it doesn't matter, all the boring photos on my hard drive are state of the art. I meticulously chose f/3.5 instead of f/2.8 to shoot the ceramic frog in my bathroom so it would be sharper from corner to corner. What is this crazy amateur talk about putting out interesting photos?!
On a more serious note: Print on paper? You can do that with photos? :)
junk1: Is the e-shutter OK outdoors - no image issues such as tearing?
1/500s is not ideal for taking pictures from a vibrating and moving platform (R/C airplane). Otherwise this camera would be ideal.
The Oly PM2 is a lot cheaper and "small enough".
@junk1 I have the GM1. When using the e-shutter in a continuous burst, there are times when you can notice one of the shots is slightly skewed. It's very slight though. If you only had that single shot, you would usually not even notice, but when browsing from photo to photo, it's obvious. As you pointed out, this mainly occurs outdoors in bright light when faster than 1/500 becomes necessary. I would not trade my GM for any camera on the market right now, but if you're shooting from a r/c airplane, you might notice e-shutter issues more often.
I have the GM1 and love it. The EVF and better controls are both welcomed. To make the GM perfect I'd ask for:
Image stabilization: Just a little for manual focus situations, which right now, can be a shaky proposition.
Auto-ISO in manual mode. Every camera should have this. I set aperture for DOF and shutter speed for the situation, but as long as it's not too dark, I'll take whatever ISO. Also, show the change in Auto-ISO as you change other settings. For example, in dark situations, with the aperture wide open, it's VERY useful to see what shutter speeds begin to give you acceptable ISO.
A 180 flip screen. Be a snob if you like, but I take photos of my life and I'm in my life. From my photos, you'd never know it. My friends can't take a decent photo.
In camera RAW processing would be nice, but not a requirement for me.
Finally, bring back the black and silver version. The all black version is fine, I can't stand the red. The love the classic black and silver.
uzevla: Seriously, what's this trend with using low-end EVFs just to satisfy some "pro" wannabees ?0.46x magnification and 1.1K dots - who needs that ?
Compact camera like this one needs good LCD. 3.3" would be good, yet they gave us 16:9 LCD which is more like 2.5". Hopefully, they didn't do what Sony is doing as their 921K 16:9 LCD on Nex6 is extremely dim - Samsung OLED w/ 230K looks better than that.
On top of this, flash sync speed stays 1/50.
Who is buying this crap ?
@technic yep, I have the GM1, that's all I need from an EVF