There's a trial.
I never had v8, but after trying the high ISO NR I bought it and made it fit in with my Lightroom workflow. I really didn't want to complicate things, but it was too good to ignore.
"A police officer looked me in the eyes and said, 'You shouldn’t be here. Another bomb could go off.'"
Yep, journos risk their lives to bring us the truth (how many reporters killed in Syria this year?), and dpreview readers moan.
About normal, then.
You people are more depressing than the pictures.
Gregography: I've never figured out why there is so little love for the Sony Nex-6.
I have one, and I'm OK for lenses. I have the collapsible zoom as my small carry everywhere, and the 35/1.8 for available light. I would like a faster tele-zoom option, however.
My issues are that the menus are rubbish, and the fact that I have to use them for shooting rather than use them for configuring shooting buttons is even more rubbish.
Also, it can't track a moving subject in low light for toffee.
But it is a good all-rounder at a good price, and pretty compact for what it does.
Can any of these cameras do bounced flash? I think that's worth more than all the features discussed here for "socal photography".
Cameras with flash that tilts up, either by design or "unofficially" like the RX100, have a huge edge.
A really good "social camera" would do bounce and fill, with some kind of inbuilt gel system to match the light (as measured by an ambient colour temeperature sensor). Gah, what are the odds Apple put that on a phone before any of the camera companies get a bloody clue?
RStyga: Let's us dispense with the myth that all "professional" photographers know exactly what they want or what it is required. I have seen a fair share of them not having a clue about what gear to buy, not only because they fail to follow the industry's rapid changes (understandable to a certain a extent) but also because they don't even know basic technological terminology (e.g. what is VC/IS/OIS/IS).
There is a significant difference between a person who makes money out of taking photographs, a photographer (in the artistic sense), and one who knows about photographic technology and application. Neither category implies any of the other.
Yep. "Professional" comes from the Greek "pro fesso" which means "for money". It means you get paid. Skill, knowledge, artistry and dedication are not required (though they may all help).
Tap0: Is there a 50mm cheap autofocus 1.8 lens that I can use with this without any vignetting or having to use an ugly and expensive adapter ? Without affordable lenses at the time of launch, what is the point of this release ?
Only on adapters, and only manual focus if cheap.
You might try for a Contax 50/1.7 in the old Yashica/Contax mount. It's pretty nice, and I think you could get if for on the order of 100-150 dollars with a basic adapter.
dgc4rter: If you can afford the lens then great! Personally, I'll stick with my trusty 50mm 1.4 and take one step forward or my 85mm 1.4 and take two steps back.
Sometimes the step forward puts me in the road with the cars, and the steps back put me through a shop window.
But when it works, the shoe leather zoom is very economical (especially at f/1.4).
2 things I often see:
1. "Use a prime and just take a few steps"
In my world that means "a few steps forward into car traffic" or "a few steps back through a plate glass window". For street/indoor photography, a standard zoom is a blessing.
2. "Go through your EXIF data and see what you use most, so you can buy a prime".
I did. 35 and 50mm equiv were neck and neck, with 43mm (true standard) maybe 15% higher because that's how I set my lens between shots. I have shots of people sat around a table that need around 28-30mm.
So, yay for standard zooms instead of primes.
Personally I'd want it to go wider, for when I shoot "the room" rather than "people in the room". And I'd want brighter, because I live in the dark. I'd live with the weight to get those options.
But for outdoor SP guys, this could be really nice -- set it to a standard length between shots to be ready for grabs, zoom to frame when you have the time, choose a place to stand if you have the freedom.
Michael de Ruijter: Is that seriously the hood ? ? ?
It can't be . . .
You are correct, Michael. And the effect can be suprisingly strong.
Hoods are for contrast, not flare, most of the time on a decent lens.
So, we think this might be aimed at people who have a collection of older Nikon lenses. Hmm, what lens is such a person likeliest to have? I don't have statistics, but I'd have though some sort of 50mm would be pretty likely. So... "In the UK, the Df is available only as a kit with the 50mm lens, at a suggested price of £2749.99"
I can only suspect this is really aimed at rich shallow people who want something to complement their iPhone. It doesn't really matter how well it works, they won't use it much.
Df for him, pink V1 for her...
peevee1: " Like my Nikon's NEF files, the Nokia DNG's can have a few stops of exposure compensation and natural-looking white balance adjustments."
Do you really believe the tiny pixels "have a few extra stops" of dynamic range (needed to make exposure compensation after the fact) in them - beyond 8 bits captured by JPEG? Then I have a bridge to sell you.
It's a pretty noisy camera compared to MFT/APS/FF, even at ISO 100, even resized for a 1920 x 1200 monitor. There's only so much you can do to the files. Especially if you crop it hard, which you'll need to since it's got no optical zoom.
It's far and a way the best quality I've seen from a phone, but it's not like my NEX-6. Of course, it's not a big as my NEX-6 either, and it makes phone calls.
Michael Ma: OK. I'm 100% sold on the camera. Not on the OS. I hope they consider selling their camera modules like everyone else in the smartphone business. Once Lumia gains enough of a marketshare, maybe they'll see it as something that can only be good for business. Right now, they are using it as leverage to get more people to switch. I'm sure it is a good OS, but I'll switch for different reasons, not because they have a nice camera.
W8 may be a nice phone OS for all I know, but it doesn't run the one application I bought a smartphone (instead of just a phone) to run.
[Viewranger, GPS with topographical landscape maps used by hikers and mountain rescue and so on.]
This work is splendid, but I'm a bit miffed that Evans' decades of subsequent splendid work are somewhat ignored for it.
Still, good stuff.
Dimit: People stop trolling! Camera wise this product seems to be a step ahead model.Sensor size is ok,resolution is excellent(and it counts,doesn't it?),windows 8 os is fine and apparently catching up(a note for Android overraters)..what more would you expect from a 2013 model?Innovative steps from Nokia..back to the throne again in a couple of years time?
How are people trolling? Trolling means saying something you don't really believe in a provocative way to annoy a group.
I think most people saying they wouldn't replace a camera with this phone (much as they'd like to), are just giving honest opinions.
This is the first Connect article I've read through. I normally carry a cheapo mobile and a Nex-6 everywhere. I would be really happy to just take a phone.
But the pictures just aren't good enough. The low light shots are noisy, and the bokeh shot of the baseball has bokeh I dislike.
Oh well, hoped for the impossible, didn't get lucky. See you all next year.
I looked at buying his book, about 60 dollars in the US and 60 pounds in the UK for 104 pages. Is that what photo books cost now? Ouch.
Not suggesting that anybody is taking liberties or getting rich here, it's probably a labour of love for all involved. Just... ouch. If that's what a book costs, it can't help bring the art to the public.
Very striking images.
I wonder what fraction of long term projects like this are by amateurs who just happen to photograph a thing they're involved in, and turn out to have an eye for it, rather than pros on assgnment. As I remember one photojournalist saying about a decade ago, "nobody gets 70 days on a project anymore". I think this project may have taken more than 70 days.
Best all-round compromise of quality, functionality, compactness and price.
Joe Shaffer: So it preforms on par or better than "professional" cameras but you keep using the words "SLR enthusiasts" for the people who would buy it. Why enthusiasts and not professionals? Is it because it doesn't say Canon or Nikon on it?
Can you rent Sony lenses, anywhere near as much as Canon/Nikon?
I think that would be a big deal for many pros.
Damn. Seems so close, yet its rather short list weaknesses happens to hit things that are very important to me: AF performance, AF coverage, AF selection, and ISO3200-6400 midtone noise.
And I would adore having IBIS, and great dynamic range, and an EVF...