snegron2: I haven't been following any Adobe news lately. Are they still forcing you to buy into their subscription service, or did they give up on that silly marketing ploy? I gave up on Adobe for this reason. How will you open any RAW files in ACR using stand alone version of CS6 from any camera produced from next month onward?
Even as a retired person, they hurt you too. That subscription must be paid every month, and that limits your choices, not only in terms of "software", but in terms of overall budget and that lowers your other options in life.
no way, dude.
New scripts are drying up because the only prospects left are those who know that subscriptions make it harder for the CONSUMER. Stocks go up when they can show increasing revenue and increasing earnings. I think the ride is over.
Silly marketing ploy? Maybe, maybe not; I would not have used those words. But when the next economic correction hits, a lot of consumer types will have to reconsider that $60 per month they're paying. This last time around, even corporations reduced and consolidated their software maintenance costs, and yes; many eliminated expensive subscriptions, especially after the layoffs were complete and they didn't need as many licenses.
Software subscriptions are the "slow evil". They reduce your freedom as a subscriber, and they reduce mine as a consumer who won't play that reindeer game. They hurt everybody.
Alternative Energy Photography: I think it's too risky to buy Lightroom, even if it was on sale for half off.
Too risky in the way of me being 'locked in' with too many photos in LR and/or PS, and then not being able to afford the monthly fee one day. So I have to ask myself: Is Adobe more likely or less likely to go subscription with LR?
And based on past history of Adobe, the answer is always "more likely". That's all it takes. I'm out, man!
Recently read an article that said that Adobe's $9.99 subscriptions are cannibalizing their $49.99 subscriptions. So again, I have to ask myself: is Adobe more likely to lower the price of the $49.99 monthly plan, or more likely to RAISE the price of the $9.99 plan?
Again based on past history of Adobe, my answer is "more likely to raise ALL of their prices!" Okay, that wasn't a choice. But it's my answer. Again, I'm out!
Yeah, well so what. I'd just rather not have the drama. So I use Corel Aftershot for now.
Alternative Energy Photography: I have the answer for you.
Everybody's paying $10 to $60 monthly for their Adobe software, so they GOTTA get their money's worth out of it!
So it's not cheating to them.
CrashMaster: This will have a devestating effect pn Photo Shop sales...
No it won't. People are addicted to their monthly payment to Adobe!
I have the answer for you.
But with content editing software very reliant on file and content organization methodologies, it would be a bad idea to choose it for now and a better idea to choose it for five years down the line.
Your logic escapes me.
Alternative Energy Photography: No more subscriptions!
Seriously, I am full-up with subscriptions and auto-renewals. This goes for Adobe (no thanks!), Microsoft (are you nuts?), magazines (seriously?), and Columbia Record Club.
I'm even getting weary of my health club, newspaper, home-phone/DSL, wireless phone, and Sat-TV bills.
Do you REALIZE how much money we are throwing away in subscriptions ranging from "only" $9.99 to $50 per month? It's getting out of hand, and it's only sustainable until we lose our jobs.
Somebody, stop the madness. Oh wait, that somebody is me! Whoohoo!
Haha. None of the above! I mean "alternative energy" in a more human, personal way; having little to do with electricity.
Think of this phrase and you may get the basic gist: "He/she has positive energy but expresses it in a new, unique, funky, eclectic, clever, thoughtful, intelligent, or DIFFERENT way". :)
I think it's too risky to buy Lightroom, even if it was on sale for half off.
whyamihere: I can't wait to see the results of this year's 'Readers Poll of Products They've Never Used But Have Deep-Seated Opinions On'!
No, that's unfair... that doesn't sufficiently encompass everyone on DPR. This is also the 'Readers Poll of Products They Are Temporarily Happy With Until The Next Shiny Thing Comes Along and Buyer's Remorse or Gear Acquisition Syndrome Kicks In'.
Either way, feel free to self-implicate.
What, so I can't have an opinion on the renting of Creative Cloud, even though my personal policy is to not rent software?
No more subscriptions!
So we can all complain about Adobe's subscription cloud service, and to be sure, Adobe deserves heaping tons of scorn and steaming derision to match their treatment of their customers.
Adobe has responsibility here, yes. But did they commit crimes? Actual crimes, I mean. Probably not.
Identity theft could be cut down to a very small percentage of its current occurrence if only we would make the punishment truly stiff and painful. Physically painful, even.
Right now, it's a slap on the wrist and no action at all if the perps are in a country where no punishment exists.
I submit to you that maybe THIS is the true root cause of the problem.
Identity theft should carry a 10-15 year sentence with no more than 5% time off for good behavior. Repeat offenders should never get out.
But that would be more harsh than the punishment for murder, which is pretty much only 8-10 years, with 40% to 60% off for "good behavior". Sigh.
gefrorenezeit: Happy that i stopped doing business with them by the time they wanted to take me hostage for using their products and sorry for the ones who do not have a choice.
I'm not sorry for others. They made their bed. Some like sleeping in it; good for them until they can't pay one day. Others will toss and turn the very first night. Life goes on.
justinwonnacott: Why is Adobe's stock performing so well ? This news seems to have haad little effect.
Stock is performing so well because the cloud based subscription model is currently successful and popular.
Not with me, I will never do this. But it is popular and Adobe's revenue and earnings have risen. This is a major reason that a stock goes up. Another reason is that the books are being cooked, which I think is always a possibility that should be considered.
At some point, however; it will stop. It has to stop, and there are many possible reasons for this: New competitor with a better (or cheaper) product, new ways of doing things, disinterest by the customer base, a bad economy causing people to drop their subscriptions, etc.
The point is, eventually, Adobe will run out of new people to sign up for the subscription, which will cause revenue and earnings to level off and go sideways (or downward). This will probably signal a top in the stock. You saw what happened to Apple stock. And Microsoft before it. This is a common lifecycle for stocks.
I would choose Aperture because Apple doesn't do subscription-only, and because it is not Adobe. Like using Corel because they're not as evil. Yet.
When I hold a grudge against a baker, manufacturer, or candlestick maker, I tend to hold it for a long long time.
Decades. Plural. This is how I roll.
Okay, I clicked through the article and just read the headlines and the first two sentences of each paragraph. I skim, it's what I do best.
I think we're missing one or two items. Didn't we learn anything about Adobe and/or subscription models? Like maybe people hate them? Or maybe people like to say they hate them but they really like them?
I think this article is incomplete without some treatment of this important topic.
EDIT: Oh, it's ten things we learned THIS WEEK. Maybe that was in last week's article...
larrytusaz: Again, not a fan of having to click "next" for every single item on the list. Hate that design, hate it, hate it, hate it, hate it. (By the way, I notice that the same ads remain, so what's the point?)
"Shutter shock" on the Olympus E-5--a lot of Olympus users have complained about that, and despite the great images the E-PL1 and E-PM1 were capable of, it, along with the fact that it took Olympus forever to improve their sensors, is why I moved to Sony NEX via C3. I've never noticed the shutter shock problem when using it, & its sensor was way ahead of the older m4/3rds models, the newer m4/3rds models cost much more since it took them so long to get the newer sensor.
Martin-C, I will try this! Maybe I just need to shift my reading of DPR to iPad.
And people say they don't know what they'd do with an iPad, pah!
I was about to read this article, then subconsciously trying to procrastinate the click click clickfest, I jumped down here to see if anybody had written anything interesting that would not require a reload and that lag for the ads.
I agree with you. In fact, I agree so much, I think I'll just skip the article. Ads here take too long to load, and surely I can find something better to do with my Friday evening.
I believe that we are getting precisely what we want. More and more monthly payments. "It's only $10 per month!" "It's only $49.99!"
I say we like it. No, we LOVE it. Not just Adobe, but everything. 90-day same as cash. Netflix. Cable. Smartphone data plans. Health Club memberships. You name it, we (as an aggregate) love our monthly payments!
I of course am dismayed by this development, and also by the attitude of some posters here who have taken the "if you don't like it, just shut up and leave us" attitude. For a group of people who like to fancy themselves as accepting of other creative ways of thinking, this is not very open minded thinking. You're winning anyway, why be such poor winners?
Just don't insult those of us who don't want more monthly payments, okay?
AlexCHStudio: Any camera is just a tool. The only thing that matters is to have an appropriate tool for a job. You can do everything you need with just a screewdriver - that is totally fine with me, but I need a whole bunch of other instruments, including a hammer, to do my job. What we are talking about?
"What we are talking about?"
Bubble levels. :D