GaryJP

GaryJP

Lives in Hong Kong Hong Kong
Works as a TV Production, Directing, Shooting, Editing
Joined on Mar 11, 2006

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lita: Hi:

The use of the term "concerns" has an appeasing politically correct ring to it, but I am afraid some people at DPR are not getting the drift here, really. Concerns, you say?

It is more like sheer disgust at naked greed, hubris and mediocrity shoved forcefully down our throats with sugar coating nonsense about "new features".

Albeit very hard, I will try to remain polite: Good bye, Adobe from a customer who has been paying for 15 years.

Concerns, you say?

"Their file formats will be read by other software." Because Adobe will have broken a contract with the customer. Really "someone else will fill up the gap" is hardly a shining recommendation for a company.

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 00:28 UTC
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Steven Brenner: Just wait, rental of cameras is next. Your camera will work for 6 months and then you will have to reauthorize its use for a fee. Either we rebel or we get %X*&#.

Not if it cost twice as much as buying a new one, as this does.

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 00:21 UTC
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riveredger: I have CS5. I paid for it already. It does everything most folks could ever want to do for still photography. The new Adobe subscription model doesn't impact me unless I decide I want to change my software, but I just plan to continue to use my CS5 and the free Adobe DNG converter. If at some point I want new software, I'll just buy whatever suits me at the time.

Everyone complaining, just use what you already have and when you decide you want something different, let your wallet do the talking.

riveredger, sorry but that's a bit short-sighted. The problem is that other software manufacturers are ALSO considering subscription models. And that includes Microsoft Office. If this works, expect to pay to rent everything on your computer at some point. It's the next step for companies that are stagnating in revenue or innovation. I have a legit CS6 and have used Photoshop for years. But I also avoid saving, even with MS Word, in proprietary formats. You cannot trust proprietary brands and this proves it.

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 00:20 UTC

Jut ordered, and am downloading, Paint Shop Pro X5 Ultimate at a 33% discount. I had PSP on my computer for many years but opted out at X2. I still have CS6 but don't trust their assurances, so now it's time to get back on the upgrade path. I recommend Adobe buys stock in Corel.

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 00:16 UTC as 704th comment | 2 replies
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George Reilly: Adobe will not be the only game in town. Many will eventually drop their products. They have decided to shaft the consumer bigtime...

Not at ANY price.

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 00:03 UTC
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Rich Niemeyer: DPR, a previous comment on this string, commented that perhaps you should unhook yourself from a perceived marriage with Adobe. While this may or may not be true, you are a large enough presence on the photography scene that you should express your views on this, More than merely posting a survey for members to rant on. You are big enough for Adobe to pay attention to you, unless they are underwriting you in some manner. PP is an important part of digital photography. Perhaps it is time for you to pay more attention to ALL digital software. I would personally enjoy any reviews, particularly now, in light of what Adobe has done to their advanced and amateur customers.

Adobe isn't doing any better on Facebook in this debate.

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 00:02 UTC
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Danamr: Seriously.
Adobe is not a non-profit.
Adobe is not a charity.
Adobe does not owe you anything.
They are in business to make money. Software piracy costs them millions of dollars a year. This goes a long way to eliminating that.
Their pricing model is more than fair for what you get.
This is the future. Get used to it.

This does NOTHING to eliminate piracy. Nor is it meant to. It not only increases it, it makes the pirates and hackers look like good guys in the eyes of many. Adobe is a once-creative innovator turning into a lumbering giant. The tail is wagging the dog.

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 00:00 UTC
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roderashe: My biggest concern after reading these comments is "When will the whining stop"?

Some people just enjoy being reamed.

Direct link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 23:36 UTC

So basically "we took a hit on profits last year so we are chiseling more money out of you." The rest is bumfluff.

Direct link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 23:34 UTC as 722nd comment
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Phil Cannon: This is 'New Coke' or 'windows 8' it won't last. That is my prediction.

This is a attempt to boost profits

Be patient

Grandpa was right. Or do you still enjoy your New Coke?

Direct link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 23:21 UTC
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RichRMA: Welcome to the new U.S. rental/service economy. Where the powers that be control the physical media and can pull it or change it any time, depending on which way the winds of politics, morality or business are blowing. This pertains to movies, music, software and whatever else they can create with ones and zeros. Personal ownership is the enemy of the current administration and business.

Always has been. Some want to roll back the personal empowerment that is IT and the internet's greatest asset.

Direct link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 23:19 UTC
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Biowizard: The poll has missed my MAIN worry: potentially losing access to all MY artwork and creative IP, simply because one day either Adobe goes bust and my software times out, or I cannot afford my subscription any more.

It would be OK if the software could still open/edit/print images PREVIOUSLY worked on, even if you stopped paying for the subs. But that isn't how it works.

Brian

And it is one I will undoubtedly take. Thanks. Just as you are free to continue to suck at the corporate teat ... As long as you keep paying those dues. In the meantime you might check how Apple's arrogance worked for FCPX. Welcome to the niche market Adobe.

Direct link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 22:55 UTC
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vincent__l: If you look at the numbers you can understand why Adobe does not want to reduce their pricing.

Adobe's CFO Mark Garrett said, "subscriptions have topped 500,000. At $50/month, that's $300 million a year; with annual revenues of $4.5 billion, that's meaningful but not overwhelming ... However, our subscription revenue, as a percentage of total revenue, has increased to 15% in fiscal 2012 from approximately 11% and 10% in fiscal 2011 and fiscal 2010, respectively, as we transition more of our business to a subscription-based model."

With everything going 100% to CC Adobe needs to replicate $4.5B in revenue with subscriptions. They are currently at $300M/yr and that's assuming everyone pays $50/mo. If everyone only pays $20/mo vs $50/mo they will need significantly more subscribers to reach $4.5M. With the current backlash I doubt they will get to $4.5B with subscriptions. The CEO should start sending out his resume. Time to "spend more time with family" and "seek other challenges."

Yeah look at gyms ... And how many people get ripped off by them and how often they close down leaving hundreds of unhappy subscribers. The model is hardly stable.

Direct link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 22:53 UTC
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MarcLee: This is what happens when a company stops innovating but still wants regular revenue. The other problem is that it stifles the independent creativity that is the primary advantage of computer software and the web. Some elitists like high barriers against the newcomer, and the cheaper competition. This will suit them just fine.

I agree with him. It's the inevitable nature of mature software to plateau in development. There's a reason we don't buy EVERY upgrade and that's what Adobe hates. Incidentally, innovation is about more than one product. When you stop looking for new solutions and simply buy out your competition you have become the problem you initially rebelled against.

Direct link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 22:39 UTC
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Biowizard: The poll has missed my MAIN worry: potentially losing access to all MY artwork and creative IP, simply because one day either Adobe goes bust and my software times out, or I cannot afford my subscription any more.

It would be OK if the software could still open/edit/print images PREVIOUSLY worked on, even if you stopped paying for the subs. But that isn't how it works.

Brian

Not layered PSD files. And THAT is the point.

Direct link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 22:38 UTC

Adobe should examine the Google motto. Don't be evil.

Direct link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 22:35 UTC as 752nd comment

If the Cloud is such a good idea, make it optional. Let the customers decide in their own best interest. My biggest concern is not reflected in your questions, which is that this is an attempt to lock us in precisely because incremental developments are plateauing and they know we won't pay for minor upgrades. This has become apparent with Microsoft Office too.

Direct link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 22:14 UTC as 768th comment
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Jeremy Park: it says a coupe of things to me....
1. they must feel future innovations for products like CS7 and beyond will be too limited to drive new sales !
2. Professionals aren't upgrading as much as they used to (again issues with innovation and competition)

http://www.jeremypark.com.au/

Exactly right. Software upgrades are notable improvements up to a point. What they want to do is lock in profits now because they have passed that point.

Direct link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 11:00 UTC
On Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction article (1852 comments in total)
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Tape5: I knew something was soon to break when 'Photoshop' turned into a verb in 1990s and five year olds started talking about Photoshoping family photos while mums tidied up. When any dirtside crappy magazine that taught newcomers Photoshop tricks made more money than the software it was based on.

The public think that they are entitled to free Photoshop like it is air or mother's milk.

Adobe needs to move forward a fair bit faster to compete and it looks like they have decided to deal with professionals who are happy to pay for the added value. Those who deal with fees, charges, outgoings and taxation bills. Those who make money from their photography or creative work.

If that is not you, Adobe is dumping you.

If you have an impossibly difficult market when you already dominate it you are doing something very wrong. As I've said elsewhere, these are mature products now. What it really comes down to is wanting to charge us more while innovating less. Yes, many WILL walk. They walked from Final Cut when Apple decided to f*** them over and I have no doubt they will do it for Adobe. But shill on.

Direct link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 09:12 UTC
On Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction article (1852 comments in total)
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Adam Filipowicz: I dont do cloud.. I dont have a cell phone, I dont use email. I dont buy digital music i like CD's, I dont like computers..I like snail mail..no im not a dinosaur.. no way not me..

Evolution works because certain changes give a greater chance of survival. This may confer advantages to Adobe but not its customers. It remains to be seen who becomes the dinosaur.

Direct link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 04:06 UTC
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