GaryJP

GaryJP

Lives in Hong Kong Hong Kong
Works as a TV Production, Directing, Shooting, Editing
Joined on Mar 11, 2006

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On Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction article (1853 comments in total)
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Adam Filipowicz: If you were to buy a new license of Master collection CS6 it would be $2600.. the subscription is $49.99 a month for everything.. thats 52 months of subscription to equal one license.. after 52 months you would buy an upgrade.. and if you actually waited 4+ years to upgrade it you would basically ned to buy a new license as the upgrade would atleast $1000 (20 more months of subscription) I dont get why people think this is a rip off.. I like to keep my software current and I upgrade to each version as it comes out.. im saving money..and its more convent managing the licenses in my design department

So I guess you guys would rather rent from a landlord than buy your own home.

Direct link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 04:04 UTC
On Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction article (1853 comments in total)
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Adam Filipowicz: I bet most of the people that are complaining about paying a small fee to use photoshop, dont own a license and have a pirated copy.. becasue if your complaing about $20 then whats the likelyhood you bought it for $1000

Adam, you are full of it.

Direct link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 04:02 UTC
On Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction article (1853 comments in total)
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Husaberg Grok: I administer workstations that NEVER touch the world wide web and NEVER will. There are many businesses with the same policy.

Farewell photoshop.

We used to use it in our professional grapics department, we are looking for replacement software.

True. In the TV company I work for, NONE of the graphics or editing workstations have web access for security reasons.

Direct link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 03:04 UTC
On Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction article (1853 comments in total)
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Octane: Let me get this straight, you expected users to be upset, but went ahead anyways.

You saw a decrease in people upgrading their software because you ran out of creative ideas for new features that people consider worth paying for. So instead of making your products better and come up with new features, you force everyone to upgrade whether they need it or not.

You increase the cost to keep software up to date, yet disowning the buyer completely and effectively holding their work hostage when they don't pay the subscription any more because the software won't even run and open your files.

Adobe, I hear the message loud and clear, you can't come up with product improvements to generate enough income so you force people into a more expensive subscription plan.

Absolutely right. Mature software allows for only slightly incremental improvements, but they still have overheads and profits to worry about.

Direct link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 03:03 UTC
On Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction article (1853 comments in total)
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Adam Filipowicz: good luck staying relevant and competitive when clients send you files created in adobe cc, but you cant open it. because you wont invest $360 a year, and folks need to be more open to change and progress. being all grumpy because you admin workstations that never go online.. well.. things need to change.. do you think other software wont eventually require some online connectivity. sure it will.. the next version of windows will prob require a regular or constant internet connection too. things are changing folks..the world is going cloud / subscription..and you can either learn to change or be a dinosaur and be left behind.

Time will tell which dinosaur becomes extinct. Remember Quark?

Direct link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 03:01 UTC
On Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction article (1853 comments in total)

Microsoft are pushing in the same direction with Office 360, although not making it compulsory yet. They will eagerly await the results of Adobe's experiment.

Forget the nonsense about R&D costs. There's a point in mature software at which new possibilities for updates are not significant enough to persuade people to shell out for the latest version. (For a similar reason in hardware, people are not replacing their PCs as often).

They are not introducing this for the finance to take greater leaps and bounds, but because they KNOW a mature software product can only introduce smaller and smaller improvements, but they still have to pay salaries, rents, etc. Hence they want us to pay more for less.

Direct link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 02:58 UTC as 719th comment
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leomartinez: The real discussion here is not if you get access to the program thru the cloud, thru a cd or whatever, the real problem here is that adobe is forcing us to rent the software instead of just letting us buy the darn thing.

They are trying to transform PS and etc, in a service, rather than a product or merchandise.

Microsoft are pushing in the same direction with Office 360. Forget the nonsense about R&D costs. There's a point at which new possibilities for updates are not significant enough to persuade people to shell out for the latest version. They are not introducing this to take greater leaps and bounds, but because they know a mature software product can introduce smaller and smaller improvements. Hence they want us to pay more for less.

Direct link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 02:56 UTC
On Photoshop CC: Adobe responds to reaction article (1853 comments in total)

Even when using Microsoft Word I NEVER save files in their proprietary format, but always as RTF. The lesson is that one should never trust proprietary brands as far as one can avoid it. Adobe Premiere gained a lot from Apple's mess with Final Cut Pro X. Now they are heading for their own mess.

Direct link | Posted on May 8, 2013 at 02:52 UTC as 725th comment

For all kinds of reasons, including living on the edge of a very repressive political system, I do not trust cloud computing. If the authorities can remove your access to the "cloud" and your programs depend on that, you can do NOTHING. It's a dangerous move for those who don't live in Western style democracies.

Direct link | Posted on May 7, 2013 at 03:54 UTC as 442nd comment | 3 replies
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ch01: Reading from the statements, it's not about controlling pirating, they want a continuous stream of *larger* income...

About as good as they will be for a subscription model.

Direct link | Posted on May 7, 2013 at 03:49 UTC
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Rick DeBari: I will not be buying Photoshop again after over 10 years of licensing and using it. Currently, I own and use PS CS5 and this is the end of my relationship with Adobe! If you insist on having me buy into CC and no longer offer me upgrades, there will be no more Adobe purchases from me. I will find a suitable alternative product ASAP!

The question is what percentage of Adobe's user base relies overmuch on those "some things". A great many of us never use the more esoteric functions.

I actually get so much of my photographic work done with Lightrooom or Capture One that I crack open my CS6 less and less.

Direct link | Posted on May 7, 2013 at 03:48 UTC
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ch01: Reading from the statements, it's not about controlling pirating, they want a continuous stream of *larger* income...

Nope. Because you can enforce the same monthly check-in on a product without introducing the alternative revenue stream. And if one of the problems of piracy is, as has been claimed, that it makes the legit user pay more, then this cure is worse than the disease.

Direct link | Posted on May 7, 2013 at 03:34 UTC
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Clint Dunn: The funniest thing about the litany of complaints here is that the majority of you don't pay for the SW...you use pirated copies. Go ahead...tell me I'm wrong:) For every Pro out there with a legit copy of PS is a 'Pro' doing $500 weddings on weekends with $2000 of SW they got off a torrent site.

You can cut down on piracy by using the same monthly check-in you need to use for renting the software out on a subscription basis. You can apply it without a new revenue pattern. The piracy argument is bs.

Direct link | Posted on May 7, 2013 at 03:31 UTC
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photosen: That was unavoidable, there are way too many people willing to pay a couple of thousand dollars for a shiny Mac but zero for their illegal Photoshop. If it's too expensive don't buy it.

This is not about piracy. That's bs. The same connection you require for monthly renting can be used to stop piracy. It's about revenue only. Those of us living outside the US are used to Adobe gouging us on price differentials. Now they are gouging you too. Congratulations.

Direct link | Posted on May 7, 2013 at 03:26 UTC
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Jun2: I thought about switch from Aperture 3 to Lightroom 5.0 (trying the beta right now). I guess I just have to stay with Aperture 3.

So far, Lightroom isn't up for subscription. If Adobe decides it is, I'll focus on Aperture too.

Direct link | Posted on May 7, 2013 at 03:16 UTC
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Clint Dunn: The funniest thing about the litany of complaints here is that the majority of you don't pay for the SW...you use pirated copies. Go ahead...tell me I'm wrong:) For every Pro out there with a legit copy of PS is a 'Pro' doing $500 weddings on weekends with $2000 of SW they got off a torrent site.

You are wrong. Some of us who run businesses get tax breaks on software we buy. We don't get tax breaks on pirated software, which is why even many individual pro photographers will be using legit programs. I swear some of the posters here work for Adobe.

Direct link | Posted on May 7, 2013 at 03:08 UTC
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snegron2: I knew Adobe would do this to us some day. I guess it's time to look elsewhere for a photo processing program.

I was actually going to spend the $600 for CS6, but I have changed my mind. No doubt Adobe will render it useless as it has my old CS2 I purchased at full retail price a few years ago.

Any suggestions on a good (non Adobe) program to use for image editing?

I've always kept updating Capture One as well as Photoshop. Don't use spot features. Looks as if I'll just drop the Photoshop option.

Direct link | Posted on May 7, 2013 at 03:05 UTC

Looks like it's time for another software program.

Direct link | Posted on May 7, 2013 at 03:00 UTC as 462nd comment
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the reason: Autofocus at f8, in 2013...

"It's no longer an appliance that just works, like a vacuum cleaner, but software like a PC requiring maintenance, updates and bugfixes."

Like pretty much every decent digital camera on the market. With that glass-half-empty outlook I bet you wear that raincoat even in the sun.

Direct link | Posted on May 1, 2013 at 04:12 UTC
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snegron2: I wonder if she used a flash or not? I can imagine that a flash would have distracted the couple from their argument and could possibly have caused the anger to be re-directed toward the photographer.

I simply tell you, with examples, how documentary film-makers have worked for more than three decades with much larger equipment. You are free to retain your scepticism.

Direct link | Posted on Apr 20, 2013 at 11:02 UTC
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