Thrilling. Like you were there.
Chaitanya S: A very clean layout compared to Fuji but too many screws compared to few other cameras that were torn down before.
Too many screws? I'd worry if there were too few.
moranjr: "The body has no traditional red dot as Leica says it wants the camera to be discrete..."Discretion is important. In fact I am going to leave mine at the Leica factory so no one knows I own it.
If you can't spell discreet, should you be shooting with such an expensive camera?
I would never buy such a camera even if I could afford it, but I admire Leica for staying true to its brand. The photography world would be poorer without them. Bravo.
With hundreds of bags available from various vendors, how does DPReview choose which ones to "review"? The first three paragraphs of this "review" are pure advertising. Of course the "Buy Now" button from DPReview owner Amazon is right there under the title.
Here's a funny joke: lenses and bodies don't work well when they're cut in half! Wait... they already repeated that joke... on every slide...
I used to really like Olympus. How sad.
But I'm telling you, they aren't getting anywhere near me with those retro Olympus endoscopes.
Chris Noble: This lens is actually a Panasonic lens, and the lens is called the "Panasonic Leica DG Vario-Elmar 100-400mm F4-6.3 ASPH". The name Leica is used as part of the lens name by license from Leica to Panasonic. Knowledgeable consumers know the branding agreement, and DPR does not hide it in other coverage, but you should refer to it by its whole name rather than cutting the manufacturer's name off the title of this article.
Balios, show me another article about a lens that does not identify the manufacturer in the title. This is designed to suggest that it is a Leica lens, not a Panasonic lens.
This lens is actually a Panasonic lens, and the lens is called the "Panasonic Leica DG Vario-Elmar 100-400mm F4-6.3 ASPH". The name Leica is used as part of the lens name by license from Leica to Panasonic. Knowledgeable consumers know the branding agreement, and DPR does not hide it in other coverage, but you should refer to it by its whole name rather than cutting the manufacturer's name off the title of this article.
Fascinating, thank you!
We can all agree that most photographers care about how their cameras look. But we can disagree reasonably on what is an attractive camera. Some of us see the Pen-F as a unimaginative attempt at a "retro" look, including illogically-placed controls, fake surfaces and handling compromises.
A comparative article with more than one point of view on the aesthetics of various cameras would be interesting. We already know from the flood of DPR adulation that the writer representing alternative aesthetics will have to be found outside the DPR office.
(unknown member): Do people still shoot jpegs?
DPR, please start a forum for "Raw vs. JPG flaming" so we can contain that disease in one place.
Chris Noble: OK, some people like retro-looking cameras, with all their ergonomic compromises. But titling an article "Pride and joy" on a website that claims to offer factual reviews? Why not change your name to "Old-camera-lookalike afficionados"? Or better yet, focus more on timely, factual camera reviews and comparisons?
Of course we all want our cameras to be desirable and attractive. I'll keep my steel Swiss watch which I find very attractive and leave the gold-plated ones and the cameras without grips or useful thumb-rests ("retro") and wrapped in fake (what you call "faux") leather to others who find that attractive. Chacun à son goût! Thanks for the pleasant exchange and good shooting.
Interesting point Olymore, but I am quite certain that Olympus does not agree with you. They don't want to become Hasselblad. It's not just IQ, but also ergonomics, handling, the menu system, AF etc. I own and am quite fond of my Swiss mechanical watch (my only watch), but I also have my cell phone which tells me the accurate time when I really need it. I would not want to carry around a pretty camera (I don't find the PEN-F pretty, YRMV) and also a second camera when I need the performance of Olympus's competitors.
Good points Red.
That is the crux of the issue. In a side-to-side comparison with its direct competitors, the PEN-F would not do so well. But it's easy to find something to like about almost any camera, looked at in isolation. More high-quality and detailed comparisons, fewer gushing articles about individual cameras (especially with a "Buy now" button right below...) I think a lot of DPReview readers have asked for this.
Thanks for your gracious comment Carey. There are many innovative recent cameras that DPR has not reviewed, and you seem to shy away from dispassionate head-head comparisons. Reviews seem to be slipping more and more towards "here's yet another wonderful camera". Maybe I'm looking for more Consumer Reports and less Popular Photography. But I'm only criticizing because I am very fond of DPReview.
No Carey, my comment was pretty clearly about your puff piece.
OK, some people like retro-looking cameras, with all their ergonomic compromises. But titling an article "Pride and joy" on a website that claims to offer factual reviews? Why not change your name to "Old-camera-lookalike afficionados"? Or better yet, focus more on timely, factual camera reviews and comparisons?
Chris Noble: This article ignores the impact of lens mount on choosing a camera, and that typical readers of this publication don't choose one camera -- they often need a small walkaround camera as well as a bigger, more fully-featured one. Few of us are willing to buy a whole new set of lenses when we are looking for a new camera. I picked u43 years ago because of the support from both Panasonic, and Olympus for a wide range of bodies and from several independent lens manufacturers. Today I have a tiny pocket camera (GM5) and a workhorse camera (G7) that can take all my lenses.
I'm contributing the perspective of an amateur enthusiast who sometimes goes out for the express purpose of taking photographs with my main camera, and sometimes likes to throw a small camera in a pocket or bag before a social outing "just in case". The D600 is way too big for the second purpose, and the D4 is a big, heavy and very expensive camera targeted at pros. Keep on smiling!