Nobody is going to buy this lens except for suckers and people who want to brag about how badass their lens is.
Umm what is a bettle?
IcyVeins: The new Sony camera got over 500 comments on its preview. I doubt this overpriced hulking non-upgrade of a sucker's camera gets even half as many. Canon hasn't upgraded its sensor in three years, that's an absolute joke.
What most people want isn't what most people on here want. And the evidence of that is in the number of comments. Hell this one comment chain alone has 15 of the 109 comments.
bigdaddave, please tell us, who got fired for buying a Sony?
If you want to "grow" then at some point you are going to have to upgrade to a new camera one way or the other. The superior lenses for the rebel drive the cost into the thousands of dollars. The Sony is arguably the best pocket camera you can get, depending on your interests. Every camera is limiting, the Rebel limits you in terms of where and how often you can use it, and in terms of price.
Your final comment about shooting a wedding is most ridiculous of all because I'd bet you'd insist on using lenses that cost more than the camera itself.
I like how you tried to spin my comments; I said those things about people who buy "this type of camera" meaning a low-end DSLR with beginner features, not about people who buy Canon cameras in general. Most people who will buy this camera are neophytes, that is beyond dispute. Canon goes out of its way to mention how beginner friendly the camera is in the press release.
Also remember you are comparing a $650 pocket camera to a $950 camera that ismuch larger and heavier and whose kit lens is dimmer and has a shorter zoom. My point is that more and more people are feeling "limited" by the size, weight, and cost, and less and less are feeling limited by the differences in performance, which are getting smaller and smaller with every generation.
I never said anything about sales. Of course most people who buy this kind of camera don't know very much about photography and just buy whichever brand they've heard the most about. That's why Canon can make it ridiculously overpriced compared to the competition.
Comments on dpreview don't translate into sales but they do give you a pretty good idea of which cameras are the most interesting to people who know about photography. The most popular cameras are $200 or cheaper compacts and nobody around here bats an eye any time those get iterated with insignificant changes every year.
The reason I am comparing the two cameras is because it is becoming more and more apparent that the number of people who want a high performing compact is growing and the number people who want a trophy camera that requires a neck strap is shrinking.
The new Sony camera got over 500 comments on its preview. I doubt this overpriced hulking non-upgrade of a sucker's camera gets even half as many. Canon hasn't upgraded its sensor in three years, that's an absolute joke.
Oh wow Canon made an announcement it must be a new Reb...oh never mind, I guess the Rebel line is extinct.
Did you use flash?
IcyVeins: GOODBYE FOREVER, CANIKON!!
In case you have difficulty reading LKJ's post, he said CANIKON has FASTER, CHEAPER portrait lenses. Last I checked f/1.8 isn't faster than f/1.8.
Also for you to suggest that Canon's cheap plastic lens with no high grade glass or coating is "more or less the same lens" as this one is a complete joke. It's extremely soft wide open, and not even sharp in the center.
Please tell me, what CANIKON portrait lenses are both cheaper and faster than this one? Go find me an 85mm f/1.4 lens under $900 LOL Even the off brand Sigma costs more than that!
GOODBYE FOREVER, CANIKON!!
highwave: It looks so good on the black OM-D
Both looks and spec wise, it's more fittingly the kit lens for the OM-D than the 12-50mm ever will be
You know, it would have made you look a lot less stupid to just concede that I made a fair point, or even just not respond at all. But the example you gave shows only that you are stubborn, argumentative, and in denial. You know why the example you gave is ludicrous, and if you don't then I certainly can't help you.
This is wrong. No kit lens ever costs more than the camera it goes with. A kit lens isn't supposed to be absolute best lens available, with the 12-35 is.
You blundered this shot with the 1/60, plainly evident motion blur in this shot.
Nice picture, but did you consider flipping it horizontally? I think it would look better that way.
You can't fix STUPID!