tmurph: Pricing is the key here. Why would Panasonic leave the price of the cameras so close.There should be a clear distinction between the GX7 and the LX100.The GX7 with a 14-42 is at the moment in the uk is about the same as the LX100 asking price, that to me is too close. Obviously the price of the LX100 should come down but why leave the two cameras so close in price within the Panasonic range?
The magic word is 'at the moment'. At the moment any newly released camera is going to be dearer than an older one. The body only list price of the GX7 in the UK matches the LX100 complete with fast lens plus a lens to match the LX100's, if it exists, is going to double the price of the GX7 package and the size I would expect.
An utterly delicious contrast of old 20th Century design technology in 21st century high fashion chic.
Greynerd: Well Canon may have fallen flat on their faces with mirrorless but they are the undisputed top dogs of viewfinderless.
@gmkeSome screens are OK and others are not. I have found it is just a bit of a lottery whether the camera you buy has a visible screen or not. I find with my Panasonic TZ60 the little low resolution screen is a great backup even though the screen is pretty good and I just hope Canon can start putting a little screen in the corner. The G7x looks a great camera but you just never know how these screens will perform in extreme brightness and I would not want to find out the hard way after shelling out £579 which is a lot of money for just a 1" sensor. It is a bit of a high stakes gamble.It is difficult to understand how this technology is so erratic after so much time. The G7X may be OK but the only way to find out is to buy it. Too much of a risk for me at this price. Just a little low resolution EVF in the corner would make all the difference.
Well Canon may have fallen flat on their faces with mirrorless but they are the undisputed top dogs of viewfinderless.
Zarniwoop1985: Hey guys. Question for you. Not sure if this is the right place but anyway! Have pre-ordered the Panasonic LX100 from Adorama US for $955 (incl shipping). This equates to £590. The UK website Wex Photographic is selling it for £799. This seems too good to be true. Are there any disadvantages or issues that buying from the US might give me? Like different video capabilities etc?
So the sort of surcharge we see in UK over exchange rates which is often 50% or more is in fact a very expensive warranty. I do wonder whether just to buy overseas, as given the failure rate of my kit, UK sourcing is just a waste of money on what is very expensive and limited breakdown insurance with no accidental cover.
Where do you get this 20% import duty from repliers. There was a long discussion of this on a forum and the consensus seemed there was no import duty. The whole point of the short video times is to avoid import duty if classified as a video camera. Can give the source of this information?
aroundomaha: No microphone input port. Not a deal killer but that is disappointing in a camera capable of potentially pretty nice video work. Shame.
Sony are happy to sell you a microphone for their cameras which goes in the hot shoe. I am sure Panasonic would prefer to do it this way if they do not do it all ready.
Photoman: Will Leica make one like this and charge double?
Do not forget that with the Leica hours will be spent hand polishing it.
marks123: The 2TB version is listed on Amazon U.K at £436.22! $712!!
You are getting confused as the inter currency rates are purely financial and have absolutely no connection with the relative costs of actual products between the UK and US. To do the conversion just cross out the $ sign and put a £ sign and take 1 penny off.i.e. $299 = £298.99.
Menneisyys: As it only as the old, inferior 20 Mpixel Sony sensor also used in the A3000 and the A5000, the QX1 is definitely DoA.
PS.: I'm aware of HowAboutRAW's stating this sensor isn't noisier than the 24 Mpixel one of the A6000. I don't agree with his statement and this is why in no way consider QX1 at this price a good buy. With the 24 Mpixel sensor, it could be, but definitely not with the old, cheap 20 Mpixel one.
Everything is junk by the next day with you. The old inferior 20mp sensor works just fine in my A3000. This obsession with noise is getting way beyond crazy.
Helen: "Sadly, Auto ISO is not available in Manual exposure mode"
Is that certain? It always has been available on previous models and it would be unusual for Olympus to delete a function, going by their previous track record. It isn't available out of the box, but has always been available after one visit into the appropriate page of the "gears" menus.
@G1HoustonProbably a coding problem. The firmware complexity will not add to the weight of the camera but the Olympus firmware does give a massive amount of control to the user and sometimes something has to give to fit it all in and make it work. Sony have thankfully dumped their awful NEX menus but have gone back to the old Alpha menus but I cannot believe they give the flexibility of the Olympus ones. Sony have dropped the level indicator in the A6000 so they are struggling to fit things in and on my NEX 6 it needs it own display screen.
I would have thought program shift probably compensates for Auto ISO in manual in most cases as you can roll to the Aperture and Shutter combination you want for correct exposure with the camera's choice of ISO. Not exactly the same degree of control by the user but probably considered by Olympus as good enough for most users' requirements.
ZAnton: No on-sensor PDAF - no reason to buy.
So you are saying in the replies that for an object moving rapidly towards the camera that these cameras will match PDAF for speed?
mrcultureshock: I really dislike this combo review. The review for the Sony A6000 is 13 pages long and yet the combo review for GH4 and A7s, which are 2 of the most important hybrid camera releases ever, only gets 14 pages?
Please review the GH4 and the A7s separately.
They are currently enjoying their 5 minutes of fame but I am sure plenty of best cameras ever are waiting in the wings.
mpgxsvcd: If it has a smaller sensor with better performance are you still going to complain about the sensor size? The difference in depth of field going from a 2/3” sensor to a 1” inch sensor is not significant when you factor in the fact that the lens would have to be slower to be the same size.
If Fuji can produce high quality images with a smaller sensor then I am all for it. In the past they have had smaller sensors that do exactly that. I hope that is the case with this camera.
But 1" is a really neat number. 2/3 is just .666666666' which is really clumsy and who would want a 0.932" size sensor or a 1.27" sensor. 1" sensor just have to be the best. I think you are making the mistake that the cult of the 1" sensor has something to do with photography. It is just pure marketing and people are suckers for it.
Photoman: Nick Ut the famous Vietnam War photographer likes to use Samsung. Check out his Facebook page.
@badiIf you were some famous photographer using one of Canikon's electro mechanical relics you would not think twice about it. Of course if it's Samsung there must be some ulterior motive. One could not possibly want to use one of their cameras by choice.
FuhTeng: I'm sorry, I'm rather missing the point (I already have the camera's big brother in the a6000) - it's only $100 less but doesn't have a mode dial (my in-laws poor little P&S has that!), nor an EVF, or the extra control dial, and it has a weaker flash.
I think the touch-screen's a nice addition, however.
I'm also confused by having a zoom control on the body. I'm sure it will work fine with the kit, but isn't that going to be confusing once someone puts on anything but the kit or the SELP18105? I think those are the only two E-mount PZs.
I would have thought the on body zoom function would be used for the various digital zoom functions when a manual zoom lens is mounted.
Pity we cannot talk to the monkey and find out his conceptual vision when he took the image.
beavertown: The JPG rendition is awful, it is burry.
Did Nikon do that on purpose to make their mirrorless line much inferior to their entry level DSLRs?
@EcoPixAn interesting point as the same sort of conservative big sensor snobbery will probably exist within many of the old school manufacturers that you often see in DPR. The new companies such as Samsung are probably at an advantage here as probably the Samsung Mini probably excites them more than their aps-c NX stuff. I really think there will be a large rationalisation coming soon in the camera world.
It is difficult to imagine why anyone would undertake all the effort and cost involved in developing a camera not with the intention of selling it, but just to promote an alternate product of theirs. This would only work as far as I can see with the complete absence of any competitors.