vapentaxuser: Does anybody know when the Oly XZ-2 is supposed to start shipping in the US? I initially heard late October but can't find a firm ship date for the camera now.
It looks like Olympus XZ-2 announcement has been rushed as the new spate of fast aperture cameras being released has really taken the wind out of its sails. It has finally put a decent image and video engine behind the excellent lens but is all a bit too late.
Edgar Matias: Great cameras all, but I don't see how the FZ200 could be considered a compact camera. It's the size of a DSLR.
@neo_nights. I have a Canon SX40 which is a similar size and I could not fit it into any pocket of any clothing I have. In fact a GF3 with the 14-42X lens or a Nikon V1 would be easier to put in a pocket and that has an interchangeable lens. Not following yours or DPR's logic I am afraid in describing this great lump of a camera as compact.
gl2k: Hotshoe, 1/4000 high speed sync speed, 25mm wide angle and const. f2.8That alone makes it an outstanding P&S that outclasses many mirrorless m4/3 and APS-C cameras.
Well done !!!
@bobbarber. DOF is only one factor amongst many and not a great problem with the standard kit lens especially compared to a fast fixed f2.8 long zoom camera like this. To call these cameras point and shoot just makes no sense as blown highlights and black shadows are as big a problem with these small sensor cameras as focus depth. In my experience the smaller the sensor the less point and shoot it is.
Airless: The review said "Panasonic did almost everything right" and "With a few refinements in design and image quality, the camera would be darn close to perfect." So why did it only get 80%? If a camera that had "everything right" would get 100% then how does one get just 80% that has almost everything right and a lacking only "refinements" to be "darn close to perfect"?
Mea Culpa. The SX50 results are in the review. Good to see. Apologies. I will get my coat.
@gl2k. In what way is this camera a point and shoot? These small sensor cameras need a lot more intervention to get good results than any DSLR or CSC. Can you explain what you mean? Large sensor cameras with their greater dynamic range, more focusing points and more sophisticated exposure evaluation are much easier to use if you just want to point and shoot. I am interested in why you classify this camera as point and shoot?
It does have a fairly limited zoom for such a large body. Panasonic have given a wide aperture to offset this but this is by modern standards a travel zoom compact in a super zoom dslr sized body. It is not by any standards a super zoom anymore with 1.2 metre now attained by the SX50 though there will be no comparison as DPR have stopped testing the Canon equivalents since the SX20. DPR have tested the 1 metre Nikon P510 though so they should know what a super zoom is.
I bet Time magazine never realised what hysteria they would cause in certain circles by this announcement. Do not forget that the Time people like most are not really interested how the camera works, but in their opinion, think it does perform a lot better for its size than anything they have seen before.
Posterity proves the worth of things and these contemporary awards will be forgotten next year and are often primarily driven by the vanity of the people handing them out.
qwertyasdf: On a previous lens roadmap, Samsung indicated a 55/1.8 pancake.It turned out to be a cupcake.
The following lens are on the roadmap for the 2nd half of 2012 lol...80-400mm f/4-5.6 OIS SSA iFn135mm f/2 OIS SSA iFn24mm f/1.8 ED SSA iFn
Personally I would hope they ditch the 135/2, which translates to 202.5mm
Samsung use leaks and rumours to keep up interest in the system and make it look like there are more lenses than actually exist. Their 16-80 lens for example was actually officially announced in DPR in February 2011 for delivery Dec 2011. It has never been officially cancelled and Park Cameras in the UK still have it up for sale (at £9,999 crossed out) as awaiting stock. Samsung have leaked that it has been cancelled but as far as I am aware have never officially stated this.
iudex: First of all I must say I do not mind the look of V2; I do not buy cameras because they look nice, but because they take good pictures.But...The V2 is as big as mirrorless competition with APS-C.The V2 is as expensive as mirrorless competition with APS-C.I don´t get such good pictures from 1" sensor that I get from the APS-C.So why the he.l should I buy a V2 instead of an APS-C camera?
The size of the lenses?
Edit: Parallel post with iudex: aps-c goes pear shaped with longer focal lengths.
The camera shown does look a bit of a dog's dinner. There must be a law of diminishing returns where there are so many controls that there will be a problem remembering what they do and where they are and what needs the menus, plus what they do in different modes and how you have left them and having to constantly turn the camera to access them. This is when a menu becomes a better option especially as a reset is a lot easier than returning switches to a default condition. Thanks for showing this camera as it has cured me of the idea that menu driven cameras are necessarily a bad thing.
KingDon: RX100 was a game changer. No one is even interested now in the new 1/1.7" cameras like EX2, LX7, S110. RX100 is is responsible for that shift in expectation.
It will be late 2013 or early 2014 before other camera makers have a response to RX100.
Obviously Sony were a bit daft in just releasing a 1/1.7" sensor for a format that has zero interest. Presumably you are anticipating zero sales for these cameras as that is what no one means. I have a feeling that people are buying these cameras and the predictions that the RX100 replaced every other camera in existence were a bit exaggerated, though still being promulgated. Heaven help anyone who dares suggest another camera may be better than the RX100 in their own brand x forum, they will instantly be called an x brand fanboy.
Obviously Sony have do not subscribe to the idea that their 1" sensor compact mades the 1/1.7" type obsolete. It would be great if they produced a 2/3" 14mp sensor so the format was available without the intricacies of EXR.
NX1000 not NX100.
Francis Carver: Wow, this is gonna be a great camera!!!
Man, I can just use my venerable collection of fisheye and UWA lenses to capture amazing super-telephoto shots, thanks to the 5.5x crop factor introduced by this camera.
Thanks, Pentax, you had really made my day! In fact, I had always wanted my 28mm lens to give me the equivalent field of view of a 154mm telephoto lens, yessirie.
Pentax is definitely on to something good here, let's hope that the other camera makers will follow down this path as well.
Surely it is easier to crop your large sensor images in an photo editor rather than buying an expensive camera and adapter to do it.
Jun2: The backside looks remarkably similar to iphone. Sue Samsung again, Apple please. haha.
I think this must be America's tactic to pay off its huge debt. Patent the mundane and obvious and sue foreign companies in its home courts with local juries with predictable outcomes.
Greynerd: When contrast detect cameras struggle to focus I often move the focus square to overlap the edge of the object which usually solves the problem. In fact I would move the square from where it is on the Canon example to where it is on the Panasonic example to get focus. It does not seem to be a very convincing demonstration. In fact having the focus square in the middle of the body in a same sized image would be a tougher and more equivalent test.
Edit: Also looking at the examples the Panasonic focus square is also larger which helps especially when it overlaps the object.
Thanks for the reply Amadou. Obviously you have found marked differences in varied testing so that is fair enough.
When contrast detect cameras struggle to focus I often move the focus square to overlap the edge of the object which usually solves the problem. In fact I would move the square from where it is on the Canon example to where it is on the Panasonic example to get focus. It does not seem to be a very convincing demonstration. In fact having the focus square in the middle of the body in a same sized image would be a tougher and more equivalent test.
migus: "it uses the widely available, though relatively inefficient AA battery type"
Not quite so inefficient - wrt. life time, usage and even energy density (where NiMH is closing the gap vs. LiIon). Most often the humble AA/NiMh beats the noble LiIon, except in custom shapes.
"However, the Li-On battery does have a shorter useful life, in terms of time, than NiMH batteries. A Li-Ion rechargeable battery will last about three years, starting from the time of manufacture, versus about five years for a NiMH battery. Unless you're a professional photographer, It's likely that you'll never reach the maximum number of charge/discharge cycles, before the three years is up, and the Li-Ion battery begins losing capacity. " http://batterydata.com/
"NiMH has a volumetric energy density of about 300 W·h/L (1080 MJ/m³), significantly better than nickel–cadmium at 50–150 W·h/L, and about the same as li-ion at 250-360 W·h/L." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel%E2%80%93metal_hydride_battery
Eneloops are the best option. They are the only batteries that work in my SX130 apart from Lithium batteries. I think Duracell do an alternative now. The rule is to buy rechargeable batteries that are fully charged when sold. They cannot do this with normal NiMH as they self discharge so rapidly. I even use Eneloops in my clocks which would be impossible with normal NiMH as they go flat in such a short time irrespective of power demand.
IcyVeins: HAHAHAHAHA The beginning of the end for CANIKON!
I suspect the professionals photographing the Olympics not sponsored by Panasonic will be exclusively Canikon.
Is this the photographic equivalent of McDonalds doing all the catering?