beavertown: The JPG rendition is awful, it is burry.
Did Nikon do that on purpose to make their mirrorless line much inferior to their entry level DSLRs?
@EcoPixAn interesting point as the same sort of conservative big sensor snobbery will probably exist within many of the old school manufacturers that you often see in DPR. The new companies such as Samsung are probably at an advantage here as probably the Samsung Mini probably excites them more than their aps-c NX stuff. I really think there will be a large rationalisation coming soon in the camera world.
It is difficult to imagine why anyone would undertake all the effort and cost involved in developing a camera not with the intention of selling it, but just to promote an alternate product of theirs. This would only work as far as I can see with the complete absence of any competitors.
akophoto: Yet another half baked tiny sensored bridge camera that will fall apart above 200iso. 200k view finder! No use at all...
Why do they bother anymore? CSCs have large sensors, the better bridge cameras have large sensors.
There is no place in modern (proper) photography for crappy 6mm wide sensors anymore (other than in a smart phone)
It is fascinating how angry people can get over a camera release. Nobody is going to make you buy one Akophoto, so try not to get too worked up about this and you can still be a proper photographer and a large sensor obviously makes this easier for you. Many people get very good results with small sensor cameras but some people do need the more expensive equipment to achieve this.
Ben Herrmann: Pentax seems several years behind the times with regards to their super zoom offerings. These small pin-head sensors are on the way out, IMO. Now if Pentax can get into the mix with a 2/3" or 1" sensor - and add RAW capabilities - then I think that would turn on heads.
Remind me, you did tell me once. Pin head is not mocking small sensors by excessively exaggerating their small size but just a turn of phrase I believe. Do you expect a 1" sensor super zoom at £249 then? At present you have to pay £749 for 400mm equivalent in 1" so affordable super zooms are also going out of fashion if what you say is true.
The best way to describe the EPL's is a standard everythingless PEN camera stripped bare of any but absolutely essential components but with the concession of a PASM dial. I just cannot understand why DSLR owners have never taken to mirrorless. A mystery indeed.Edit: Probably they do not bother to show the reverse of the camera as there is so little there worth showing.
Under The Sun: Competition only brings good things to us the consumers.
Competition can also mean rivals outbidding each other at a loss making price until the weaker parties go out of business and the survivor has a monopoly, which is not good for the consumer.
It seems to me that the RX10 sits in a sort of no man's land between the Canon G1X MkII which has 80mm less reach but a large rather than mid size sensor yet is substantially smaller and the FZ1000 which has the reach to justify its size.
Kipplemaster: Small cameras like this should have USB charging. I believe this is the only m43 camera which does, which would be a very big selling point for me. I like DNG RAW too.
If DPR was a car forum you would get people posting how only one door is needed in the car as they never carry passengers so they cannot see the point of all the other doors.At least USB charging gives you a choice of in camera or out of camera.
I am interested by the statement that an Eye-Fi card can match the capabilities of the Samsung EX2f's wireless capabilities. I cannot find any details on how you can run remote viewfinder on an Android device using a wifi card which can be done easily using the EX2f's built in facilities with the requisite app in the remote device. DPR are saying here that you can.Can anyone help here or could the review be corrected if it is not the case.
panpen: Garbage like camera. Only if they pay me, I'd use a Kodak like that. It reminds me of a brownie in a shiny package. No thanks
I expect a lot of photographers are more interested in what they look like taking the picture than in the picture being taken. Most modern cameras are pretty good nowadays in their results so brand image becomes the only real difference.
Samaistuin: Thanks for posting the review. I'd have appreciated a little paragraph regarding the pocketability, though, rather than a small line in the conclusion.
The M3's pocketability was subject to debates in the forums.
Pocketing something with those delicate lens protection blades seems a bit scary to me. They could turn into a built in lens scratcher so easily. I have not heard it as a fault particularly with Sony but you do read of problems with other makes.
Jogger: Amazing that technology is just approaching what evolution figured out hundreds of millions of years ago.
I think the human race has done pretty well over the last hundred and fifty years as the single lens eye probably took over a billion years for evolution to 'figure' out how to do it and it has never figured out a way to transfer the images so we can look at each other's images.
nikon power: Why all the bashing when Leica is the Rolls Royce or Bentley of cameras? fyi, rich people want an expensive name to show that they have much more buying powerthan many people.
@darngooddesignLOL. You always know that making a comment like mine someone will find one.
I cannot imagine Rolls Royce putting black fenders on a silver car. This thing is not exactly a style statement.
xoio: $899 = approx £530 at current exchange rate, even with a bank's creaming X percent onto that, it would still be sub £600. So where do they get the wallet raping £749 from?
@John ClinchThe standard of health care in my area does not merit a 40% tax rate. It may be free but it is given grudgingly and with little real concern for the patient.
@xoioBut it looks like our wretched greedy government is doing most of it.Edit: Thanks spzphoto for putting me right on that. It looks like our import duties are pretty hefty compared to the US
Peiasdf: I think the future is 1" compact cameras and FF for enthusiast / pros. Bridge cameras such as m4/3 and APSC will die out.
Let's not get too carried away.
Keith,How can 20% VAT explain a 40% surcharge?
natna: "Noise levels are well controlled in low-light, albeit then with a noticeable loss of detail."
i.e. give the water colour painting a good soak to fill in the gaps.
quezra: If reviews are good, this could be the camera that makes me break my no-more-cameras vow this year. It seems to deal with the few niggles I had with the FZ200 decisively. Well done Panasonic! Very good to see some competition in the 1" segment at last.
@quezraCommendable self control I think.