Helen: "Sadly, Auto ISO is not available in Manual exposure mode"
Is that certain? It always has been available on previous models and it would be unusual for Olympus to delete a function, going by their previous track record. It isn't available out of the box, but has always been available after one visit into the appropriate page of the "gears" menus.
@G1HoustonProbably a coding problem. The firmware complexity will not add to the weight of the camera but the Olympus firmware does give a massive amount of control to the user and sometimes something has to give to fit it all in and make it work. Sony have thankfully dumped their awful NEX menus but have gone back to the old Alpha menus but I cannot believe they give the flexibility of the Olympus ones. Sony have dropped the level indicator in the A6000 so they are struggling to fit things in and on my NEX 6 it needs it own display screen.
I would have thought program shift probably compensates for Auto ISO in manual in most cases as you can roll to the Aperture and Shutter combination you want for correct exposure with the camera's choice of ISO. Not exactly the same degree of control by the user but probably considered by Olympus as good enough for most users' requirements.
ZAnton: No on-sensor PDAF - no reason to buy.
So you are saying in the replies that for an object moving rapidly towards the camera that these cameras will match PDAF for speed?
mrcultureshock: I really dislike this combo review. The review for the Sony A6000 is 13 pages long and yet the combo review for GH4 and A7s, which are 2 of the most important hybrid camera releases ever, only gets 14 pages?
Please review the GH4 and the A7s separately.
They are currently enjoying their 5 minutes of fame but I am sure plenty of best cameras ever are waiting in the wings.
mpgxsvcd: If it has a smaller sensor with better performance are you still going to complain about the sensor size? The difference in depth of field going from a 2/3” sensor to a 1” inch sensor is not significant when you factor in the fact that the lens would have to be slower to be the same size.
If Fuji can produce high quality images with a smaller sensor then I am all for it. In the past they have had smaller sensors that do exactly that. I hope that is the case with this camera.
But 1" is a really neat number. 2/3 is just .666666666' which is really clumsy and who would want a 0.932" size sensor or a 1.27" sensor. 1" sensor just have to be the best. I think you are making the mistake that the cult of the 1" sensor has something to do with photography. It is just pure marketing and people are suckers for it.
Photoman: Nick Ut the famous Vietnam War photographer likes to use Samsung. Check out his Facebook page.
@badiIf you were some famous photographer using one of Canikon's electro mechanical relics you would not think twice about it. Of course if it's Samsung there must be some ulterior motive. One could not possibly want to use one of their cameras by choice.
FuhTeng: I'm sorry, I'm rather missing the point (I already have the camera's big brother in the a6000) - it's only $100 less but doesn't have a mode dial (my in-laws poor little P&S has that!), nor an EVF, or the extra control dial, and it has a weaker flash.
I think the touch-screen's a nice addition, however.
I'm also confused by having a zoom control on the body. I'm sure it will work fine with the kit, but isn't that going to be confusing once someone puts on anything but the kit or the SELP18105? I think those are the only two E-mount PZs.
I would have thought the on body zoom function would be used for the various digital zoom functions when a manual zoom lens is mounted.
Pity we cannot talk to the monkey and find out his conceptual vision when he took the image.
beavertown: The JPG rendition is awful, it is burry.
Did Nikon do that on purpose to make their mirrorless line much inferior to their entry level DSLRs?
@EcoPixAn interesting point as the same sort of conservative big sensor snobbery will probably exist within many of the old school manufacturers that you often see in DPR. The new companies such as Samsung are probably at an advantage here as probably the Samsung Mini probably excites them more than their aps-c NX stuff. I really think there will be a large rationalisation coming soon in the camera world.
It is difficult to imagine why anyone would undertake all the effort and cost involved in developing a camera not with the intention of selling it, but just to promote an alternate product of theirs. This would only work as far as I can see with the complete absence of any competitors.
akophoto: Yet another half baked tiny sensored bridge camera that will fall apart above 200iso. 200k view finder! No use at all...
Why do they bother anymore? CSCs have large sensors, the better bridge cameras have large sensors.
There is no place in modern (proper) photography for crappy 6mm wide sensors anymore (other than in a smart phone)
It is fascinating how angry people can get over a camera release. Nobody is going to make you buy one Akophoto, so try not to get too worked up about this and you can still be a proper photographer and a large sensor obviously makes this easier for you. Many people get very good results with small sensor cameras but some people do need the more expensive equipment to achieve this.
Ben Herrmann: Pentax seems several years behind the times with regards to their super zoom offerings. These small pin-head sensors are on the way out, IMO. Now if Pentax can get into the mix with a 2/3" or 1" sensor - and add RAW capabilities - then I think that would turn on heads.
Remind me, you did tell me once. Pin head is not mocking small sensors by excessively exaggerating their small size but just a turn of phrase I believe. Do you expect a 1" sensor super zoom at £249 then? At present you have to pay £749 for 400mm equivalent in 1" so affordable super zooms are also going out of fashion if what you say is true.
The best way to describe the EPL's is a standard everythingless PEN camera stripped bare of any but absolutely essential components but with the concession of a PASM dial. I just cannot understand why DSLR owners have never taken to mirrorless. A mystery indeed.Edit: Probably they do not bother to show the reverse of the camera as there is so little there worth showing.
Under The Sun: Competition only brings good things to us the consumers.
Competition can also mean rivals outbidding each other at a loss making price until the weaker parties go out of business and the survivor has a monopoly, which is not good for the consumer.
It seems to me that the RX10 sits in a sort of no man's land between the Canon G1X MkII which has 80mm less reach but a large rather than mid size sensor yet is substantially smaller and the FZ1000 which has the reach to justify its size.
Kipplemaster: Small cameras like this should have USB charging. I believe this is the only m43 camera which does, which would be a very big selling point for me. I like DNG RAW too.
If DPR was a car forum you would get people posting how only one door is needed in the car as they never carry passengers so they cannot see the point of all the other doors.At least USB charging gives you a choice of in camera or out of camera.
I am interested by the statement that an Eye-Fi card can match the capabilities of the Samsung EX2f's wireless capabilities. I cannot find any details on how you can run remote viewfinder on an Android device using a wifi card which can be done easily using the EX2f's built in facilities with the requisite app in the remote device. DPR are saying here that you can.Can anyone help here or could the review be corrected if it is not the case.
panpen: Garbage like camera. Only if they pay me, I'd use a Kodak like that. It reminds me of a brownie in a shiny package. No thanks
I expect a lot of photographers are more interested in what they look like taking the picture than in the picture being taken. Most modern cameras are pretty good nowadays in their results so brand image becomes the only real difference.
Samaistuin: Thanks for posting the review. I'd have appreciated a little paragraph regarding the pocketability, though, rather than a small line in the conclusion.
The M3's pocketability was subject to debates in the forums.
Pocketing something with those delicate lens protection blades seems a bit scary to me. They could turn into a built in lens scratcher so easily. I have not heard it as a fault particularly with Sony but you do read of problems with other makes.
Jogger: Amazing that technology is just approaching what evolution figured out hundreds of millions of years ago.
I think the human race has done pretty well over the last hundred and fifty years as the single lens eye probably took over a billion years for evolution to 'figure' out how to do it and it has never figured out a way to transfer the images so we can look at each other's images.