Stollen1234: Eric who? sorry never heard of him before..
polished and packaged in Berkeley..isnt the spirit of Berkley still being a hippy and for the environment and fair trade..
handmade by a leather-maker in Saigon: to get the job done for cheap..
no, thank you
You have never heard of him before? Now, wouldn't it be nice if there were a place where you could go and look things up so that you never ever had to be uninformed like you claim to be right now.
Mike FL: FUJI cameras do not hold price well if Fuji wants to move the invensory, such as X-Pro1 is $500 while it was more than 3x500 = USD 1500.
FUJI makes some of its cameras look liking Leica, but Fuji is not Leica as Leica can hold the prce very well.
This strikes me as over the top simplification. The price of the X-Pro is low partially because it's a four year old camera. In return Fuji is a nice system to buy second hand. I have a bunch of Leica stuff and it looses its value over time just as well, some M cameras and lenses might be better but everything else doesn't really hold much value on my experience.
photominion: The fact that they only offer an iOS app says all about the target user of this camera.
(someone who prefers a foolproof ui and is ready to overpay to compensate his lazyness.)
Not, don't flame me, I honestly don't know anyone who could ever tell me about a real advantage of iOS over Android other than the fact that it "just works".
Wow, some awesome anti Apple trolling here just because Leica is not offering an app for another platform. School must be over.
tagomilonga: The only thing Apple invented is the curved corner of the iphone.
Ah the usual pointless fanboy trolling, what a joy.
scottcraig: Didn't God already have the patent when he designed us. It's times like these when I think how primitive mankind is. "I found this you can't make one."
Wow, Connect, just wow. Where the hell do you get these people from?
papa natas: What...??!!Wasn't there suppose to have first the Panasonic version of this camera?
@Johan - I think it isn't really made it Germany but simply assembled there. That's the little difference between stating Made in Germany and "Leica Camera Germany". But maybe I'm wrong and somebody has an article or link to show us how these are all build in Solms.
EricWN: It seems an ok upgrade for the existing X-Pro line, though overpriced like the last time of course. I'd personally have wished for some touchscreen controls and a flip out screen that Fuji has in other products. Having to read elsewhere that this somehow doesn't "fit" this kind of fake rangefinder and that I need to buy another camera to get this modern day functionality is more than frustrating though and will result in no sale this time. I'll continue to use my existing gear then.
I was simply referring to myself as the costumer. No sale here, Fuji, thank you. If it will be a better success than the first model, we will see. I always thought it was a niche market anyway.
Don, spare me your fanboy blabla. I am a paying customer with multiple Fuji cameras including the x100 and the first generation X Pro. I know exactly what I want and above is the feedback of someone who is as eligible to share his thoughts as you think you are. Don't bore me with any additional marketing blabla please. As an existing customer, this update has taken far too long for the provided technology.
It seems an ok upgrade for the existing X-Pro line, though overpriced like the last time of course. I'd personally have wished for some touchscreen controls and a flip out screen that Fuji has in other products. Having to read elsewhere that this somehow doesn't "fit" this kind of fake rangefinder and that I need to buy another camera to get this modern day functionality is more than frustrating though and will result in no sale this time. I'll continue to use my existing gear then.
moizes 2: Sorry, really great lenses, but no IBIS, no deal. Looks overpriced without it.
@Don: Going slow is what the fake rangefinder look is about. For a really quick camera one would drag along a DSLR, but the mirrorless cameras like this one - they aren't bought to get the images onto the card as quick as it gets. They're cameras for the enthusiast, who does indeed spend some time taking the picture.
snapa: I hate iPhones, iPads, iPods or anything that starts with an "i".I think this is a great idea and hope Android (a real phone) comes out with something like this soon. If anyone thinks a few mm to almost double their usage is too much, they are just plain stupid. It looks like it may even save your phone in case you drop it, very sturdy looking. I the way it looks, will give you much better talk time and protects the phone!
Lack of care? Just don't buy it if you don't like something. The fact that you cannot understand why somebody else spends their money doesn't make them a fan. It makes you less clever than you claim to be. So they made another product you don't like. Big deal. Move on.
Wow, so much strong feelings for a product. Do you also post in boards for any other product you don't like?
papa natas: Very impressive..!
Thanks for calling out the usual "clever" trolls around here.
GabrielZ: Just another example of Apple dropping the ball lately. Its a similar story elsewhere with their services, apps etc...they seem to have become a victim of their own success...sad.
And sadly just another silly Apple is doomed shouter.
pshummer: All of a sudden, Sony 7RII looks to be a good bargain. And I love my DSLR even more. One of my family member's boyfriend has a Leica. One day he came to our holiday dinner with his camera. He knows I have a Nikon. He said to me,"....you know,it's Leica, the best in the world!" So I asked him what he shoots. He hesitated a little but said,"....I shoot everyday things,you know...like a cat and cars,you know.....it takes great pictures." And he showed me a cat picture. "....Nice!......." that's all I could say. I almost said to him that my iPad could take just as good pictures as his camera and possibly even better...but I didn't.He's a proud owner of the Leica and I hope that will make him a better photographer. he he.
Ya, cat pictures are really not allowed with a Leica, how dare he. Generally when you can use a tablet to take a picture leave everything else at home. Excellent story and so relevant to this report about a camera.
RichRMA: The "ad" for it looks like the crap Apple puts out with self-satisfied 20-somethings oowing and awwing over a new, soon to be discarded toy.
RogerMuss: Seems crazy that all this magnificent craftsmanship that is built to last decades will be obsoleted in a year or so when the next sensor turns up. If Leica made a camera with a sensor module that could be replaced then I'd invest in the system.
Sure, Red might have one, but that's an even more rare and more specialised product to begin with, not your typical Full Frame stills camera - do correct me if I'm wrong. The Ricoh idea was nice but in the end not the same as you bundle sensor and optics forever.
@FriYup, I am aware of the old wish to be able to just swap the sensor, I'm just pointing out that this hasn't made it to mass market anywhere else - so we cannot expect a niche manufacturer like Leica to make a technical leap across the field and provide a high tech solution where all others have failed/passed before. On the other hand that doesn't mean that you can't enjoy a Leica for many years today, it's exactly like any other digital camera or computer: you buy it now and at some stage there is better performing stuff out there.
seeblue: Although I often find a good smartphone to be a great substitute for a camera, I doubt this good camera makes a great substitute for a smartphone.
For the size and battery-life alone, I wager NO ONE will (or will manage to) use this as their single smartphone. Thus the single device argument falls flat. This is a large sensor compact camera trying to look and act like a smartphone. In the end, it’s an expensive, moderately powered device, with average handling and speed, designed for a handful of pixel-peeping RAW and resolution enthusiasts.
The smartphone which will come closest to conquering photography will come from Apple or Samsung; not from a camera maker. Apparently they’re taking their time. In a few years we’ll look back at the CM1 as a kludge.
@Papi - wow, what a low class statement, shame on you. I have in no way hinted at anything you claim. I am not discussing what is first on the market. I am simply looking at well thought out products. Looking at Samsung's watches and Apple's watches tells me all I need to know in that regard. One will be a well thought out product, and sell in millions, one won't. And sure, Casio had a digital watch before, just so to stop your next claim of copying. How can you even seriously believe that screen size is an invention? That's just the way components develop and the market currently has a demand for bigger phones than before. Again, the best one will most likely sell the most, so just look at the most successful product. If you think the iPhone is only successful because it has a bigger screen, then let's meet again in a year and see how successful it has been then. Whatever else you speculate about you should better keep to yourself, nobody else will want that level of discussion.
That would be the first digital M Leica that would not find a buyer on the used market then. Seriously, while I appreciate the idea, no other Full Frame camera maker (not even the ones with much bigger budgets and very expensive DSLR offerings) have exchangeable sensor modules. This looks like a very nice update to the existing Monochrome line to me, nice camera.