Duckie: Let's hope Lytro diversify and survive. Very daring company with guts and innovation. Should not deserve to serve to die yet.
Diversification nearly killed Apple computer in 1994-1996.
This camera is a huge improvement over the Lytro 1.
Raist3d: No offense but it looks pretty bad (the effect) as they show it. Looks almost like a bad photoshop filter.
It works, if you have the software and files.
The software is free to download, so all you need is files to try it.
Roland Karlsson: I am a little surprise. Is this effect new? It is an obvious function when you have a light field camera? If it has not been there before - why not?
Um, before the first Lytro how many light field cameras were there?
There was Mr Ng's PhD modified Contax, and then there was something that involved the whole wall of a room stacked with individual cameras.
lorenzo de medici: Ok, so actually they recommended the D810, but pushed the D750 because it's cheaper, lighter, and has an articulated screen. Fair enough. Except the title of the article is "High-end Full-Frame Camera Roundup".
And the D750 has better high ISO performance than the D810.
5tve: Raw was available on my OnePlus One in October 2014https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op3cMaQPvhY
Managed to get the company website to load, finally, and the page devoted to the camera says nothing about raw/dng.
Now an interweb search of the terms "oneplus one dng" turns up about one hit--something about beta testing in the summer of 2014.
Is that because the OnePlus One smartphone uses the Cyanogenmod version of Android 4.4?
I’m not seeing a mention of raw in the TechRadar review. It’s a substantial review from less than a month ago, and TechRadar doesn’t like the camera:
Not seeing raw or DNG mentioned on the OnePlus One Wikipedia page; company website being a problem with my slow connection.
Sorry haven’t watched the Youtube video.
Horshack: Sony is keeping Adobe busy with all these camera releases :)
There were new Sonys announced at Photokina in Sept 2014?
I thought the last new Sonys, before this A7II, were from early summer 2014--so before both the Samsung NX1 and the Panasonic LX100 and the new Leica X.
Carl bcn: First, Lightroom stopped having release candidate versions. Later, it was left behind when new features (namely the ability to paint on radial/graduated filter masks) were added to Camera Raw. Now it seems it is not getting even the updates to the ACR engine?What's next, LR for computers being discontinued and replaced by its ios-only mobile version? I hope that's not the future...
Yes but ACR was also updated in PhotoShop CS6, that's not subscription.
Bet the limited ACR was also updated in PhotoShop Elements 13 (or whatever the latest PSE is). And PSE is not subscription.
mrc4nl: its still of limited use, smartphones lack dynamic range.there is not much you can push.
Um, ever hear of adjusting white balance after capture?
Then ever hear of not having jpeg artifacts?
Just those two things alone are really helpful if you care about better image quality.
Then come things like overall noise and yes exposure control.
HowaboutRAW: Cool there’s hope for users of CS6.
Anybody know if there’s an Adobe DNG Converter 8.7.1?
And still this Sony A7II doesn’t compete with the D750 for high ISOs, 16,000 is a mess with raws I shot with the A7II. I was hoping there would be a jump in high ISO performance versus the old A7.
Sony needs to fix the sensitivity of the EVF “eye sensor” in the A7II, unlike other A7 models this sensor turns off the rear screen if you’re holding the camera anywhere near say your hip and your pants/skirt aren’t a bright pale colour. This alone would be a reason I’d skip buying the camera. And no, there is only an on/off feature, no sensitivity adjustments. (Bet firmware could fix it.)
This is a gear head site, so nitpicking is built in. And I can try most any camera I want.
The event that most interested me to shoot lost some appeal--so I'm not driven to photograph right this second.
It's far from a tiny difference between the D610 and D750.
I'm not currently shooting an APSC sensor--and the NX100's is indeed excellent. (Not for higher ISOs, say over 1600.)
Right I aspire to own a good FF camera, but don't. I've rented the D700, D3s and D4.
I seek high ISOs and good colour, so that rules out cameras like the A7, and the D610 too, the latter for high ISO capacity. The D750 however is a big jump.
No, I don't think the NX1 will be better than the A7/D610, try not making up an argument for me--it's a sign of weakness in your position. Now, the absolutely best Samsung NX lenses are optically better than the best Nikon lenses--so that's a draw with the NX1.
A DPR staff member embarrassed DPR, rather badly.
There's a big improvement in higher ISO performance going from the D610 to D750--raw. You can download raws from DPR or IR studio scenes which readily confirm this point. This agrees with my own raws.
No, I shot Leica M lenses. The M mount is public domain. And I've never shot an M lens on a crop camera. (Unless you count maybe a few M8 samples, not a very interesting camera.)
For a while I shot a Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 on a Samsung NX100--the colour was amazing, ultimately it wasn't sharp enough and sharpness isn't even something I chase. That's "crop".
Money comes in and then goes out.
Why don't you try the cameras and lenses I've tried and owned before commenting?
Right now, I can't afford today, who cares, that will change always has--owned Zeiss and Leica M lenses. And with time digital bodies have big improvements in less and less expensive variations.
Hoped for IQ improvement: Well there's that big improvement from the D610 to D750, and they both have related 24MP Sony sensors--that's what I was basing my aspiration upon.
Money is tight this year is part of the D750 answer. There's always something else about to release is another part. Waiting to see if there's some widely reported problems with the D750.
I'm not "in" the Nikon system, so would have to also buy lenses--Zeisses, since the colour of Nikon lenses isn't up to my standards.
I'm also waiting to get my own raws from the Samsung NX1, though it's not looking real good past ISO 6400 from the various raws I've downloaded.
I was genuinely hoping the A7II would be a big increase in IQ over the A7--sort of like wishing that the A7S would seriously compete with the Nikon Df for higher ISO work--it doesn't.
Perchance the rumored Sony A9 will have say 18MP + uncompressed raws.
The EVF "eye sensor" on the Sony A7II is really really annoying--and for that reason alone I'd skip it, until Sony fixes it.
Unlike the D750, the shutter on the A7II remains very audible--though it's quieter than the first A7's shutter.
hotdog321: Much appreciated that this latest update works on my standalone CS6. Much as I dislike the CC approach, I like that Adobe has not totally dropped standalone CS6 support.
being a king hasn't helped Microsoft lately. (Microsoft resisted releasing stable software for years, and Google, Apple, Linux showed them how to do it.)
The iPhone was overthrown as king smartphone. (Then bending of the small 6 doesn't help.)
Google has a reputation for abusing its powers, so sort of like Adobe in this case.
Unfortunately: AutoDesk's horrid AutoCAD still has way too much influence on building design--another bad king.
How about LR 6 being subscription only--that's what I'd guess.
I don't have LR 5.X, so really don't know about this update problem.
Though once an update folder in my PhotoShop CS6 was corrupted and one of my C drive clones couldn't see the available updates to Camera Raw.
Adobe, after much teeth pulling by me and the repeated insistence that I had to reinstall PS completely, finally said try deleting this folder in the PhotoShop program folder--that worked. Sorry can't remember the name of said folder.
UFRaw and Rawtherapee will both extract raws from the A7II--not real well though.
Miron09: Leica owners I happened to know since the Seventies had many technical grievances, like wrongly adjusted meters, shoddy craftsmanship, etc. Leica never recovered from the Leica M5 mishap. The lenses sometimes offer exceptional quality, but the bodies were put together with second rate parts, in Portugal, Malaysia, etc.
Thanks for the clear, and current, information.
No, I put a card in it and shot samples--yesterday and the day before. (Plan to do so again, since I now want to check something about 60p video.) Then after I did my sample raw shooting, Adobe quickly dropped ACR 8.7.1--else I'd not be able to draw a serious conclusion.
It's not a camera I'd buy. No need to order one--pre or otherwise.
Ken Aisin: Hey Nikon, Canon's done it. Now, where is our D400?
K E Hoffman:
The A77II is a nice camera, but it's not the equal of the D7100 or the D5300 for high ISOs.
Even with raws + Zeiss lenses, the A77II's colours look washed out.
There's always the Pentax K3.
Joe Ogiba: Maybe the 7D Mark III will have 15fps and 4K like the Samsung NX1 by 2020.
No, the A7S falls apart at about ISO 20,000.
Whereas the D4 and 1DX can be used above that ISO. Then better still the Df and D4s.
And frankly DPR posted raws (studio) that completely substantiate my point about the D750 being good bit better high ISO camera than the D610. This is public evidence you have chosen to ignore.
So my raws, the raws from IR and raws from DPR all back my point about the D750. Why, if I've done very similar shooting with the A7S+Df+1DX+D4S, would my conclusions not be sound?
The Sony A7S is competitive with the D750 and Canon 6D for high ISO--so very good, but not amazing.
The fact that my claims are entirely backed up by DPR's testing is problem--not for me though.