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On Leica T (Typ 701) First Impressions Review preview (2295 comments in total)
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ProfHankD: The interesting thing is the lack of comments about the griplessness of this camera. I'm sure it feels nice to touch, but doesn't it proceed to slide out of your hand when you try to pick it up?

ProfHandkD:

Sockets (the part of the wrench doing the driving) are also usually chrome plated, and do indeed slip out of one's hand. Also wrenches, the ratcheting drivers, are indeed used for hours at a time. Adjustable wrenches, Crescents, plated in chrome are much less common than chrome plated ratchets and sockets.

Back to this Leica body:

Again, I've used this Leica and it does NOT slip out of one's hands. It is easy to grip. I've used it outdoors on a hot day.

Direct link | Posted on Jul 23, 2014 at 19:00 UTC
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HowaboutRAW: What are the rumored dimensions of this 22MP sensor? If it were flat how many millimeters would it measure on a side?

16GB of internal storage seems small, if the camera shoots raw and is 22MP, unless that's separate dedicated storage.

Lars,

I'm not so concerned about how long a battery holds a charge, I'm concerned about dead/dying batteries.

If the battery can run for 3 18 hour days of shooting and web browsing that's great.

Direct link | Posted on Jul 23, 2014 at 16:58 UTC
On Leica T (Typ 701) First Impressions Review preview (2295 comments in total)
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Daniel Lee Taylor: I don't get it. This is an EOS M with an optional EVF but without IS, the 11-22 UWA, or EF lens compatibility...at 12-20x the price depending on which component you're looking at.

Who in their right mind would drop thousands of dollars to buy this thing? For the money you could have a Sony A7, and I dare anyone to suggest that IQ would be better with the Leica T.

Leica has made some great cameras and lenses in the past, but lately it seems like the red badge means "sucker."

Daniel:

I'll look magazine review, but sharpness isn't a problem with the 23mm T lens.

And the T23 does a lot better color than most Canon lenses.

When checking samples use DNGs.

Direct link | Posted on Jul 23, 2014 at 16:56 UTC
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HowaboutRAW: What are the rumored dimensions of this 22MP sensor? If it were flat how many millimeters would it measure on a side?

16GB of internal storage seems small, if the camera shoots raw and is 22MP, unless that's separate dedicated storage.

Okay, I thought so, but 16GB still seems small.

Can a person, using just a finger nail, swap batteries on the current Xperia Z models?

Direct link | Posted on Jul 23, 2014 at 16:49 UTC

What are the rumored dimensions of this 22MP sensor? If it were flat how many millimeters would it measure on a side?

16GB of internal storage seems small, if the camera shoots raw and is 22MP, unless that's separate dedicated storage.

Direct link | Posted on Jul 23, 2014 at 16:37 UTC as 18th comment | 7 replies
On Leica T (Typ 701) First Impressions Review preview (2295 comments in total)
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Jim Salvas: They got this wrong from the unboxing. You're not supposed to unbox a Leica. It's a collectible. It doesn't even have to work.

Jim:

Nope.

SonyZeiss lenses are made (likely designed too) by Sony to some Zeiss specs. Some are very good, some aren't. That FF 85mm 1.4 is extraordinary.

Zeiss has Cosina make Zeiss MF lenses in Japan with things like Schott glass, and most of those are extraordinary. Leica is doing something similar with a Japanese lens maker--unidentified.

The 24mm SonyZeiss ($1000) is a good lens, but it's only good not extraordinary. $1600 is not 1/5 of $4000.

Software correction is perfectly normal for pretty much all digital camera lenses--including Leica M lenses.

If you want an APSC body with optically better lenses, at least better than the Leica T 23mm, try the Samsung NX30. And yes the good Samsung NX lenses are optically better than Sony Zeiss lenses for the Nex APSC system.

Direct link | Posted on Jul 23, 2014 at 16:16 UTC
On Leica T (Typ 701) First Impressions Review preview (2295 comments in total)
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ProfHankD: The interesting thing is the lack of comments about the griplessness of this camera. I'm sure it feels nice to touch, but doesn't it proceed to slide out of your hand when you try to pick it up?

out

Direct link | Posted on Jul 23, 2014 at 15:54 UTC
On Leica T (Typ 701) First Impressions Review preview (2295 comments in total)
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Jim Salvas: They got this wrong from the unboxing. You're not supposed to unbox a Leica. It's a collectible. It doesn't even have to work.

Jim,

Yeah, I got that it was a joke, but it's a silly one that's oft repeated by people who can't see a reason to buy a Leica.

The marketing position of Leica is far from a joke. It's a sad joke that optically Canikon just can't touch Leica lenses after 50 years.

Whereas there are other companies doing lenses optically a lot closer to Leica than Canikon.

Direct link | Posted on Jul 23, 2014 at 15:48 UTC
On Leica T (Typ 701) First Impressions Review preview (2295 comments in total)
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SammyToronto: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but this thing doesn't look beautiful to me. It may be built like a tank, but it looks like the average Sony/Samsung mirrorless camera and less attractive than the average Fuji/Olympus mirrorless camera.

Now, I'm not talking about performance, status, heritage or any of that, but purely on the aesthetic level this Leica underwhelms.

Dro:

Nobody thought the D-Lux 4 so much more than the LX3.

Direct link | Posted on Jul 23, 2014 at 15:42 UTC
On Leica T (Typ 701) First Impressions Review preview (2295 comments in total)
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adegroot: IQ is everything; and this camera ain't got it.

adegroot:

What raws are you looking at?

Direct link | Posted on Jul 23, 2014 at 15:41 UTC
On Leica T (Typ 701) First Impressions Review preview (2295 comments in total)
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GeorgeP71: Overpriced like all other Leicas

The S2 is a lot less expensive than the equivalent Hasselblad.

You'd have a point if you'd skipped the "all".

Direct link | Posted on Jul 23, 2014 at 15:40 UTC
On Leica T (Typ 701) First Impressions Review preview (2295 comments in total)
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AngryCorgi: "This, you can't help but feel, is the kind of camera that Apple might make, if it were so inclined."

Except that Apple wouldn't allow it to be all form and very little function. The GUI would be intelligent/intuitive and it would operate briskly. People would complain because the Apple version would have proprietary ports that needed special cables, but it wouldn't be a functional flop like this thing is.

Apple(Kodak) already made a digi cam in about 1994.

Direct link | Posted on Jul 23, 2014 at 15:39 UTC
On Leica T (Typ 701) First Impressions Review preview (2295 comments in total)
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crisotunity: Flash X sync speed: 1/180 sec
If this camera is so well-machined, how come it doesn't get you to 1/250?
Beyond the aluminium, what exactly are you paying for? Where is the innovation?

Looking forward to a shoot-out between EOS M and this Leica :-)

Focalplane shutters are hard to sync with higher flash speeds.

One pays for Leica because of the lenses.

For IQ, with even the not great Leica T23mm lens, this Leica will trash the Canon for image quality.

Direct link | Posted on Jul 23, 2014 at 15:38 UTC
On Leica T (Typ 701) First Impressions Review preview (2295 comments in total)
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SeeRoy: The camera market is simply evolving to resemble many other sectors of the consumer goods market - watches would be a typical example. The function of any given watch is almost identical to any other. An inexpensive quartz watch is likely to be more accurate than the most expensive chronometer-grade mechanical example from Rolex, Patek or Omega. No one questions this any more. These products are primarily signifiers and their function secondary.

J:

What part of this camera is made in China?

SeeRoy,

The big draw of Leicas is usually the lenses.

Direct link | Posted on Jul 23, 2014 at 15:36 UTC
On Leica T (Typ 701) First Impressions Review preview (2295 comments in total)
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stevens37y: "solid block of aluminum"
They should use titanium. Looks and feels much better.

stevens37y:

Titanium is hard to work and when smooth feels oily to the touch. Apple tried it for a laptop and failed.

Direct link | Posted on Jul 23, 2014 at 15:35 UTC
On Leica T (Typ 701) First Impressions Review preview (2295 comments in total)
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Daniel Lee Taylor: I don't get it. This is an EOS M with an optional EVF but without IS, the 11-22 UWA, or EF lens compatibility...at 12-20x the price depending on which component you're looking at.

Who in their right mind would drop thousands of dollars to buy this thing? For the money you could have a Sony A7, and I dare anyone to suggest that IQ would be better with the Leica T.

Leica has made some great cameras and lenses in the past, but lately it seems like the red badge means "sucker."

Daniel:

Well done Leica lenses are extraordinarily better than all Canon lenses.

Albeit it remains to be seen how well all of the T lenses are done.

The Sony A7 is incredibly audible. Also it's a FF sensor, so better at higher ISOs. In fact with a good lens, I suspect the Sony does do better image quality, but it's not exactly cheap. And Leica may fix the T lens (I can only speak to the 23mm.)

Direct link | Posted on Jul 23, 2014 at 15:34 UTC
On Leica T (Typ 701) First Impressions Review preview (2295 comments in total)
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Jim Salvas: They got this wrong from the unboxing. You're not supposed to unbox a Leica. It's a collectible. It doesn't even have to work.

Wrong.

Direct link | Posted on Jul 23, 2014 at 15:30 UTC
On Leica T (Typ 701) First Impressions Review preview (2295 comments in total)
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lemonhooker: This review is BS. I own a "T" and its one of the best "carry around " cameras on the market. I use 5dmk3's everyday in my business and after lugging them around I find the "T" a pleasure to use. All the "cons" that were pointed out are just BS.

weinshela,

I'm a big fan of well done Leica, and PanaLeica, lenses, but the DNGs I shot with the T 23mm just weren't great.

I've not used the zoom, nor have I put M lenses on this T body.

Direct link | Posted on Jul 23, 2014 at 15:30 UTC
On Leica T (Typ 701) First Impressions Review preview (2295 comments in total)
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lemonhooker: This review is BS. I own a "T" and its one of the best "carry around " cameras on the market. I use 5dmk3's everyday in my business and after lugging them around I find the "T" a pleasure to use. All the "cons" that were pointed out are just BS.

This isn't a review.

There are other nice mirrorless APSC bodies, which also take nice lenses.

Direct link | Posted on Jul 23, 2014 at 15:28 UTC
On Leica T (Typ 701) First Impressions Review preview (2295 comments in total)
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ProfHankD: The interesting thing is the lack of comments about the griplessness of this camera. I'm sure it feels nice to touch, but doesn't it proceed to slide out of your hand when you try to pick it up?

It doesn't slide you of one's hand.

Direct link | Posted on Jul 23, 2014 at 15:27 UTC
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