Timmbits: Minor physical differences aside, I wonder if someone is going to issue a hack of the D3200 so it also does things that are in the d5200, like bracketing for example, which is purely a software decision - same production cost, but big selling price difference.
Does the D3200 use that new Toshiba sensor?
Pik2004: WTF Nikon! $900 for f/3.5 at 70mm (35mm equalv)? for 2.5X crop sensor. That is pretty ridiculous! I've been using Nikon for past 30 years, but things like this really disappoint me. 2.5x crop sensor was more than enough...All I ever wanted was simple 1.5x crop sensor mirrorless camera, so I could use my DX lenses. Please don't make me jump to crappy Sony or Samsung for mirrorless and purchase whole new system.
"crappy Sony or Samsung", well I guess that's true of many of the Sony lenses and Samsung hasn't shipped too many excellent bodies yet, but many of the Samsung lenses easily beat Nikon, and Sony has a couple excellent Nex bodies out.
you can always go with the Canon mirrorless.
Oh great, not, Adobe has switched from ACR 7 to ACR 8 so that means these idiots will stop support for ACR 8 (in PhotoShop CS6) in probably less than 12 months.
Way to anger more people Adobe.
And another reason to look for serious raw extraction alternatives, like CaptureOne.
Lea5: Our agency upgraded last October to several Creative Suites CS6 and paid thousands of Euros. Now we can't upgrade camera RAW? Just fu.. camera addings for us?Adobe you are a f..joke and I hope you fail. You deserve the Kodak moment!I guess you get flamethrowered at Facebook again today. I'm glad we ordered Capture One.
Sure CaptureOne looks promising as a non-subscription raw converter. For those who own the PhotoShop C6 license it's not like PhotoShop C6 or Bridge is going to stop working. One won't have the absolute latest features, who cares, and so raws won't display in Bridge. For those with newer cameras (new May 2014) that's a bit of a problem.
Now some problems with your other assertion:
I may buy my electricity on a monthly basis, given that I use more in the summer, but I don't buy the air conditioner or fridge on a monthly basis and if I were to take the AC unit to a different house with electricity then the machine would work.
So this whole "it's just like the electric bill" is offensive and deeply in accurate. It's not even like the cable bill, after all in that case the TV still works and I can watch DVDs or broadcast on it. Adobe CC is like subscribing to something that's cable only like HBO.
Adobe sure has motivated the creation and search for an Photoshop replacement.
Digitall: ACDSee Pro 6 is a option too among many others for image editing, and can manage RAW/DNG files, here the list: Supported RAW Formats http://www.acdsee.com/en/support/raw-formats
So I tried ACDSee Pro 6: It can't touch ACR for raw extraction, it's good at organization. But so is Aftershot.
KG: Anyone out there knows how to upgrade from Photosohop CS5 to CS6?
All I see on Adobe website is upgrade to CC.........it sucks.....
Thank you, yes that page used to be easier to find a few days back.
Scott Birch: Larger pixels would be much better for light-gathering than wider apertures. Imagine how high an ISO you could get away with on a 5Mp 1" sensor. Or a 5Mp FF sensor, for that matter.
That trick doesn't work, now what can work is printing at a higher density than say the normal 300 dots per inch.
The fact remains that for high ISO work, beyond 10000, the D3s destroys the D800 and the D600.
marike6: DPR writes: "Users wanting to shoot primarily in live view mode will have to settle for slower autofocus performance than they'd get from nearly any mirrorless camera."
It's a DSLR with an OVF. Why would a still shooter want to shoot primarily in live view mode? Unless you are leveraging the articulated LCD shooting low to the ground or overhead, if you are shooting "primarily in live view mode" on a DSLR, you are doing it wrong.
I don't get why DPR keeps harping on handheld Live View shooting and subtracting points from DSLRs with OVFs for LV and touch screens. It's a bias that's particularly odd considering these a DSLRs not P&S or ILCs without VFs.
And the optical view finder is not good on this camera--another good reason to comment on the live view focus of this body.
But hey this is a plenty good sensor and now Toshiba/Nikon have an excuse to do a variation with phase detect AF on the sensor.
Lee Jay: Q. Will Lightroom become a subscription only offering after Lightroom 5?
A. Future versions of Lightroom will be made available via traditional perpetual licenses indefinitely.
And you believe this why? Has Adobe signed a contract? Or just mumbled something?
PaparazziPaul: Adobe should remember these words, "New Coke"
Here is a little story for you... One upon a time a great company had a wonderful product the world loved and they decided to change it. The world soon let them know it was a terrible idea. They returned the original product and lived happily ever after... The company Coca-cola.
Adobe is trying to create a steady revenue stream with subscription based software. It may open up for a lot of new people who will jump in to get their hands on some professional quality software but a lot of folks (as proved by your poll) will balk at this idea. They do not wish to be forced into a subscribe base software. We don't know how or when prices will rise or shutter to think we let it laps and have to pay a restore fee some where down the line. Just like the "New Coke", it's a bad idea and we just don't like the taste of it (pun intended).
nuff said... ;)
All well and good, but you're far from the first person to make this point in these comments.
Some say New Coke was mostly an excuse to reformulate the unchanged formula with corn syrup--in the USA at least. (Yes I know this is not the first time corn syrup has come up either.)
And Leica S lenses easily beat Nikon and Canon lenses for optical quality. The best Nikons and Canons are a joke compared to good Leica lenses.
Provided we're shooting in bright daylight: The S2 wins for optical quality, not necessarily shooting speed or shallow depth of field.
German cars, expensive and no longer made particularly well. I'm sure a BMW M3 is a joy to drive, but I wouldn't own a daily driver on which I can't readily check the actual engine oil and colour quality of said oil--so that rules out a M3.
So I'd be driving my Honda.
I see that comment log in is screwed again.
VidJa: So? $900 will probably translate in EUR1000. Why not get a 50mm f/1.8 and an el cheapo D3200, costs you less than this lens alone for almost the same package. Even the 60mm/2.8 macro would do. OK, the weight, the weight.....
I bet a D600 with 85mm f/1.8 (i've seen them for EUR 1999,- ) would be the real bargain considering that if the price difference is less than 50% save up a bit and get the better one.
This system is a lot quieter than a SLR, and it sure has a better buffer than low end Nikon DSLRs.
Keeping things extraordinarily clean during a small production run is very expensive, almost as expensive as keeping things clean during a large production run.
Then setting up the systems to make sure that each lens is nearly identical costs a lot of money, whether Nikon is making 200 hundred lenses or 5000.
The lens would probably be less expensive if Nikon knew there was hope of sell many tens of thousands.
digitallollygag: Wow, $900 for a lens in a throwaway camera system.
And I never objected to the lens quality of the m4/3rds systems.
Nor did I say that Olympus and Panasonic do bad image quality, I simply said that those useable images stop at about ISO 1600, this will change in the next 12 months.
I'll take my m4/3rd ISO 1600 raws over others' claims and postings. Now if someone else is willing to share some ISO 6400 raws from say the Panasonic GH3, I'll look at them. But I get to download them and extract them.
As best as I know Olympus is NOT using back side illuminated sensors in any current m4/3rd camera. That would be in a camera like the XZ2 or XZ10, and those are much smaller sensors. Again good lenses on both. That lens on the XZ10 is competing with Leica.
Gesture: brilliant sharpness ... intricate details ... $900 a bargain. What with modern computer-aided design and advanced manufacturing techniques, can never understand why lenses cost so much.
Well those 24MP full framed cameras still can't touch the noise control and colour quality of the 12MP Nikon D3s--yes I know that the lens matters.
Henry M. Hertz: don´t know if it was posted before but anyway.. can´t be posted often enough:
Corel has Aftershot, that runs on Mac.
Don Shreve: I'll never pay to rent my software. It appears I'll be using CS5 until I die.
Does that solve the updates to ACR problem?
As a test I got the trialware of ACDSee and its raw extraction is nowhere near that of ACR. I own Aftershot/Bibble, with the Noise Ninja addition, and that's only as good as ACR with some cameras. I don't own DXO, but I've tried it and I have the same problem as Aftershot; DXO isn't bad but it's not ACR. Yes, I've tried CaptureOne and that seemed very promising, now that Adobe has supplied this great motivation I'll try C1 again.
The only things that I've seen that are close to ACR are CaptureOne and the new and odd, and resource hog, PhotoNinja.
No, don't have a Mac so can't use Aperture.
I don't want to read about UFRaw, DCRaw, Rawtherapee.
(Yes, I know I can still buy a real license to the resource hog Lightroom.)
HowaboutRAW: And still no Samsung NX cameras.
You know "this" (whatever camera that refers too), or you're speculating?
Collie Camp: I like my DXO 8 even more now...no need for CC.
But mmmhh...the box cover looks outdated with this "unbranded" "pro" camera on it ;)
Please DXO: do an update and get a cool box cover now!
Provided you're not shooting raw with a Fuji XTrans filtered camera.