HowaboutRAW: That’s what the used departments of B+H or Adorama, etc are for.
And I think more manufacturers should copy the idea of big sensors with fewer pixels in smaller, lighter, less expensive bodies the way that Nikon did with the Df and to a lesser extent Canon did with the 6D. (And no I’ve not forgotten the Sony A7.)
6D is nice, but not quite the high ISO performance of the Df.
Also of course, the neither the Df or 6D sell for less than $1000, and that's not going to happen for a while.
Then video in the Df would mean a bigger battery. And there are all sorts of problems with video on DSLRs, some will get fixed, but not this year.
armandino: I do not want to be a troller or such. Maybe I do not understand Nikon philosophy because I do not own one. However, as much as I admire Nikon effort in producing exceptional cameras, I do not find myself a single all rounded camera to fully satisfy me for all conditions. Nikon made a tonne of bodies lately but i do not see a single do it all camera, that I would be ready to grab for all occasions. I.e, the performance body is the D4, but I would not take it with me traveling or to a party, just too heavy and intrusive for some situations. Also the resolution is at its minimum these days (landscape?). D800 is too much resolution and a tad too slow for all condition gear. The D610 sounds promising, but the AF is not quite up there. Really the D700 was THE camera of choice (although a bit low in resolution). Really I would not know what to pick right now for an all condition camera from Nikon. If somebody is happy with a crop sensor I guess the D7100 is excellent, but a no go for me.
The 5D III is a nice camera. But not great at high ISOs and as you say DR lacks a bit. So those are reasons for fewer megapixels in say the 6D or the Nikon D4.
If you know what you're doing, much cropping isn't really necessary. And most people simply don't print at 20 by 30 inches.
There's no such thing as the perfect all round camera, and Nikon wouldn't sell it anyhow even if they knew to make one. This was also true back in the film era.
Drop the idea that 16 MP is limited resolution--it's basically a delusion, and more mega pixels can easily degrade image quality.
The D7100 is fine camera body, and APSC sensors are excellent, this one included, but there's the buffering problem with that particular body.
Spectro: Improve IQ, maybe the raw engine is recoded. I always thought my D600 raw had tad better noise then the my A7 and I use the same lenses on both. Both are the same sony 24mp sensor, except the a7 maybe has turned some of the sensor area into phase detection af. The E mount or what I like to say alpha mount should have been bigger or just have been an a mount in the first place.
As for the light leak rumor technie photographer like to bring up:I have no light leak on the A7 and I did this with the 24-70 kit lens at 30 sec at 25600 iso (hypothetically a setting I never use).
Only when I put my nikon to nex adapter do I see light leak. Since it is not a sony official adapter it isn't a sony problem on mine.
The point you keep missing: even with uncompressed raws there are problems with Sony processors. This is well known. Like Nikon it's a reason that Leica M bodies do some much better than the DXO specs for the sensor say they should, because Leica uses better Fuji processors.
Why rely on one raw extraction program to (not) prove your point?
The A900 makes the case perfectly; it was never as good at raws as the Nikon D3x and used the same sensor. So that would be a failure of in camera processing of raws by the A900.
The A99 SLT actually seems to have better color than the A7, Zeiss lenses in both cases. True about noise.
rrccad: well if they fix the stupid compression sony may just have me as a customer for a pair of A7R's.
I don't care what's alleged. The A7/r's shutters are way too loud, I've tried the cameras.
(Note the loudness may add to vibration problems.)
Boiler_Jack: DPREVIEW make sure you don't "review" the Canon 1Dx Nor the Nikon D4, I mean it's not like review is in your web site name is it? Thanks again for NOT reviewing those cameras.
Haven't seen a review of the Leica M240 either.
Not really, there’s that compressed raw problem with A7r too.
(A lot of grain and not great colour in the A7r ISO 4000 raw I just checked. The 2500 ISO raw shot in similar circumstances with the D800 is a lot better.)
And the A7+A99 lag behind the Nikon bodies which use nearly the same sensor, yes the Sonys use a variation with PDAF.
Simply: That BIONZ engine Sony uses isn’t great. Now Sony could fix a bit of this with non-compressed raws.
The Nikon D600 uses a different processing engine--likely made for Nikon by Fuji. Sony's image processing chips+firmware don't have as good a reputation. And the Nikon's raws aren't compressed.
According to Imaging-Resource the light leak is a bit of a myth.
However the compressed raw thing is really annoying, and Sony should have known better, unless Sony wanted to give the colour advantages to Nikon.
And the incredibly loud shutter is unacceptable for a mirrorless body–the D4 and D610 sure can be quiet by comparison. Leica learnt its lesson with the M8.
The lenses are promising, unlike the native Sony lenses for the Nex mirrorless system (or whatever the name is this month).
HowaboutRAW: Would be nice if Sony allowed for the recording of uncompressed raws, that should be easy.
Harder: make the shutter quieter under at least some circumstances.
Don't remember that being particularly slow, perhaps. The A7r is a less interesting body to me because of high ISO performance limits.
Anyhow: There's likely to be future versions.
probert500: It's a great camera but 2 things would have been nice:
2nd curtain shutter - or whatever thy call it.
separation of delay shutter from bracketing.
evf/lcd selection as a custom function
remote live view software - for the love of Mike.
That's a long 2 .
Compressed raws and a very very loud shutter, two more problems.
PrebenR: Do you use the inferior Adobe software to post process? The RAW images looks rather soft compared with m43.
m43 isn't a raw extraction process.
And yes, I understand that you probably know that, but that's what you implied.
When I process XE2 raws with ACR 8.4, they look plenty sharp, so I just don't understand the "inferior" thing.
Suggestion: Download the raws, and process yourself with: ACR 8, PhotoNinja, and CaptureOne (skip Silkypix).
When I’ve shot some test raws with the A7, it didn’t seem particularly slow, and that was with a betatype.
No, it wasn’t a sports action camera but it worked for several raws in a row, before I got bored. So a good bit faster than say the Nikon D7100, not sure if it’s faster than the Nikon D600, haven’t tried that full frame Nikon in a while, but the D600 sure does better raws.
Would be nice if Sony allowed for the recording of uncompressed raws, that should be easy.
jedy: Very disappointed when this was released. Thanks to the rumours, there was me thinking it was going to be a full frame mirrorless camera and instead we end up with another bulky dslr. I would love a smaller camera with a retro (read simpler) layout that doesn't require trawling through menus to setup for a shot. Whilst the layout is 'retro', this camera is just a dslr without video and wifi yet stupidly priced. If only Fujifilm made a full frame camera!
The menus simply aren't a problem with this camera.
Full frame and then a smaller mirrorless body would mean entirely new lenses. (Like the Sony A7/R).
Wifi is not exactly universal, I believe there are different standards around the world, so it's best to leave it out. Anyhow would add space.
Video takes more power so the bigger battery would add space and weight.
Thru ISO 6400 both the Sony A7 and the Leica M240 are excellent full framed mirrorless systems. (The A7 is a bit too loud, and there still aren't enough lenses, but that will change in years to come.)
tbcass: Nice camera but it seems to be lacking in direct access buttons not compensated for with the function dials.
Have you used it?
Sure seems plenty accessible by button and/or dial, much better than other Fuji X cameras.
Stupidly the shooting mode, e.g. single, bracket, panorama, etc changes too easily when turning the ISO dial on the top left.
That’s what the used departments of B+H or Adorama, etc are for.
Traingineer: I think Nikon should of just made this a film camera than turn one of their DSLRs into a "retro" film camera.