kryten61: On what this firmware has reportedly improved, based on user reports, I would say its lucky for C/N/S/O etc that its is not being reviewed now. Seems rolling shutter has had major improvement..https://vimeo.com/128260855….Focus is now much better and kills any other mirror less, and 2K is being reported as majorly improved as well.
I would say that I have NEVER seen a company release firmware that has come so fast and made such significant changes, to what was already a very promising camera. Fuji people waited for firmware that was meant to help the X100 focus, they got questionable improvements. Samsung have given people real improvements and enhancements in quick time. It is obvious with this NX1 they have a goal, now for more lenses. And maybe they should pay Sigma for mount development costs to really take away, possibly, the only big negative against their system.
On what this firmware has reportedly improved, based on user reports, I would say its lucky for C/N/S/O etc that its is not being reviewed now. Seems rolling shutter has had major improvement..https://vimeo.com/128260855….Focus is now much better and kills any other mirror less, and 2K is being reported as majorly improved as well.
iAPX: Did the firmware finally improve the lens resolution? loL!
Which Lens and then what resolution are you wanting?
QuarryCat: same as Fujifilm -they always make us believe - they made the best possible AF - and I know AF from Panasonic is in most situations with low contrast or long lenses better and faster -and now they are coming with much improvement.That's good for us, then now everybody knows they are telling us marketing garbage.So Samsung is on a good way, maybe the next NX2 is a real good camera.I don't like the NX1 so much, even if dpreview and magazines praise it to heaven.There are not many good and fast lenses for it - Samsung has a lot to do.A camera is only as good as the system... (without adapter challenges)1. Panasonic/Olympus mft2. Fujifilm XF3. Sony Alpha4. Nikon 15. Samsung NX6. Canon EOS M7. Leica T
Everlast66 owns Sony gear and post something about Vacuum cleaners? Hahahaha What is your motivation for this post? Why would what Samsung are doing, need you to post this rubbish? So did your Sony come with Headphones? and a place to put your cassette tape? What's your point? Whats your motivation?
Everlast66: That's great, so DPR and all other 4 users will be able to upgrade ...
Bah Bah, where the sheep paddock?
Serious Sam: Call me skeptical but there are simply way too much comment s like: “I shoot xxx for x year and NX1 is blow them out of the water…” or “I just sold my xxx gear and bough NX1 and never look back.”
I am almost certain that there are forum “writers” here trying to boost up NX1. Its ok, that happens all the time, but this again shows how Samsung has no understanding of a Pro photography products. The target audience of NX1 is not going to swing just because you have tons of “amazing” comments, nor a gold award from DPR (which I also suspect there is commercial interest in it). You are not marketing a Galaxy S6 here!!
This target audience of NX1 in general has a good understanding of photography. They know what is most important to their photography workflow and anything else is irrelevant. I know plenty of photographers (including an AIPP master). They shoot Leica, Canon, Nikon…… and no one, NOT ONE said they will touch Samsung as a camera.
Glad to see that in 2 years or more not looking at DPreview that nothing has changed EVEN the names are the same !, Phone wars? Fanboy central, and this has what to do with the NX1? I think DPreview should win a 99% double Platinum award for constantly attracting the most useless vitriol generated in its forums. There is one name above that if you worked out how long they spend here retorting and baiting they must have zero time for work, Photography and generally life away from a keyboard? Leave you to it…….
People who take Photography VERY seriously don't usually spend huge amounts of time posting here. :-) and that said many ARE buying the NX1 and are using it for "serious" video. Maybe Samsung should take mirror less as seriously as Nikon and Canon then we could all stand back and laugh at them?
Demon Cleaner: A gold award for a camera that doesn't have overall image quality listed as a pro?
????????? "listed as a Pro" ???????? This camera will be used for and is being used for professional Video output today and was, even before this review. Guarantee you could easily shoot a Pro still shoot on it, so where is the problem? Re its Gold award, I suppose its something to do with how it rates better across the board when compared to every other DX size chip camera they have tested, maybe that's why. Oh and a commitment to improve and not hobble (like some manufacturers) through firmware updates. My 5D is unbridled by Magic Lantern whereas it seems Samsung are more keen to do this themselves on their own camera's rather than need someone to hack to improve.
D Webb: Very well done Samsung. This is a very capable company which outsells Apple in the smartphone market and I am very pleased they have been so ambitious and pulled this off as well as anyone could ask them to. I love the fact that this is a mirrorless DSLR. AF as good as the supposed king of sports crop cameras, wonderful video, great DR, great ergonomics. What's not to like?IF this had been made by Nikon, the faithful would have been dancing in the streets and announced A New Age come.
So it shoots 4k in camera, Sony doesn't, It is the only mirror less that rivals DSlr focus tracking, Bigger sensor than GH4, If it was compatible with M4/3 mount it would be a M4/3 camera unless by some miracle Samsung can make the M4/3 optical circle cover their bigger sensor? But it should be the same or less cost to be competitive? If it had Canon written on it everyone would be saying "Finally or At last" The video forums are going nuts over this camera. As for lenses? A pretty good range from a company who have created their own mount, oh and pretty much any other lens from other manufacturers will fit via adaptors. ( except M4/3 unless you like vignetting :-) ) Sounds pretty good to me and it seems DPR think so as well.
kryten61: Can someone please tell me why changing my focus post image capture is an advantage? I make my decision on focus point at the time of capture as most people do. I have taken shots with a foreground focus and sometimes will take an extra few with long focus of the same subject, but the need for anything in between seems like just a gimmick for gimmick sake. This to me is the elephant in the room for Lytro. Having played with Lytro, it ONLY gives the effect when something is VERY close to the lens and then you can see the change when its made, but something much more than a metre from the lens and the effect is barely visible… How does a Lytro save you using big lenses as someone posted here? If Lytro ever produced a camera that had an effective change of focus that rivalled a 35mm size full frame digital, it would be the same size to achieve this effect?
Yes understand you can't change focus after capture with a normal camera…you didn't really need to tell me that :-)… Why would you want to??? As I said if I take a scene and want to have a choice of changing focus points choices latter on, I take a second photo, and I will say every time I use the original image as I envisaged it.
Can someone please tell me why changing my focus post image capture is an advantage? I make my decision on focus point at the time of capture as most people do. I have taken shots with a foreground focus and sometimes will take an extra few with long focus of the same subject, but the need for anything in between seems like just a gimmick for gimmick sake. This to me is the elephant in the room for Lytro. Having played with Lytro, it ONLY gives the effect when something is VERY close to the lens and then you can see the change when its made, but something much more than a metre from the lens and the effect is barely visible… How does a Lytro save you using big lenses as someone posted here? If Lytro ever produced a camera that had an effective change of focus that rivalled a 35mm size full frame digital, it would be the same size to achieve this effect?
mpgxsvcd: Still no sign of whether "Active" means that it can auto focus the lens or not. Dpreview, a little help here?
The Video states, Iris and Focus, not zoom.
kryten61: So watched the video from NAB and the guy states this camera will not shoot RAW. DP review are saying it does?Guy states SD cards are not capable of accepting the data rate, which is what I would have thought.So the DP review headline is misleading. Raw would only be capable with some external device is this correct?
Thanks for the reply, again watching the video there is no external data output port. Only the HDMI port?So Lanc, DC in, Audio in and out and HDMI?
So watched the video from NAB and the guy states this camera will not shoot RAW. DP review are saying it does?Guy states SD cards are not capable of accepting the data rate, which is what I would have thought.So the DP review headline is misleading. Raw would only be capable with some external device is this correct?
I am very confident that Nikon Photo and Nikon Sports Optics are totally separate companies, No joint ownership? Nikon Photo has no control over what Nikon Sport optics does or what they make and or market.
IrishhAndy: Thought I'd get in before the crowds. Looks like a nice cam but over prived and a kick in the teeth for XE 1 owners.
Sarcasm mode on:
Yes I agree that Fuji should delay all their camera's until they fix every possible issue and develop the perfect camera.Hopefully they will still be in business and reach a perfection that is so Amazing that no new development makes them be perceived as to have "kicked their last models owners in the teeth"In fact Why did canon ever put out the 5d and or 5d MKII? I mean they really should have bought out no models and just waited until they could have bought the 5DIII to market.Same for all manufacturers. What were they all thinking!
Sarcasm mode off:
You guys are unbelievable. The XE-1 was announced ages ago and was on the planning desks possibly 18 months or more ago. The X100S is obviously part of a much latter development cycle and will hence benefit from newer technology WHEN it actually makes market.Not everything is a conspiracy!
ozgoldman: I'd like to see Nikon try that in Australia, as they would be fined zillions of $$$$. Restrictive trade practices are illegal here, and so they should be.
Really? 5dMk111 is virtually on parity with US pricing, GST allowed for. RRP? What's that? 280 million ppl versus 20? Its funny I have been in camera stores when a guy walked in and thanked the guy for recomending a camera, that he then bought online. What price is someones time and expertise worth? What line of work do you work in? Do u they make a profit? Do they pay u from that profit?
Tape5: Canon's act reminds me of a joke. A boxer inside a ring suddenly starts yelling at his opponent '' stop!, right now!, stop it!, I have to ask you something.'' His opponent stops '' what? what is it?'' he asks. '' why are you trying to hurt me?'' says the guy.'' Why go higher with megapixels I ask you?'', Canon says. They must be thinking ''We got lucky with all this high ISO and Video craze.'' Canon have hit a technological wall. They would have loved to pull a 36.5 one on Nikon. They just cannot right now. It is sad because I heard many of their top guys saying ''40 mp? no problems at Canon.'' I knew that was a bad sign. And Ah..Canon, thanks for worrying about my processing times and storage with larger files that Nikon delivers. I just bought myself another six terabytes with one tenth the cost of your camera.
Sigh, Photographers, the ones who pay their mortgages, feed their families etc from taking images, you know those guys. 95% of them don't want 36 MP, even 22 can be more than needed. So 36MP, is aimed at a very narrow market, it will sell like hotcakes, but when Nikon release the REAL replacement for the D700 which was always a good working file low light camera, maybe with the 16MP cmos from the D4, then we will be comparing the correct camera's Please note the D700 is NOT replaced, it is still current, Nikon are still supplying, even DP review talk about testing the D800 versus the 5Dmk3, It will be interesting, but apple and oranges. Saying u just bought Gigabytes of storage shows how people don't understand the complete picture of what too larger file means to 95% of working guys. D800's file size is aimed at Landscape, some commercial applications, D4, D700, 5D3 to a point are more suitable for Wedding, Candid, Sport, Press etc p*ssing competition?
D1N0: Sigma should get some other company to buy their sensor en put it in a decent camera. Pentax maybe or Fuji (Canon is way too conservative and Nikon too, Sony make their own).
Actually, lets all applaud a company that is willing to jump in to the fast flowing stream and swim against the current. If you really think about it, only a company like Sigma was probably willing to do it. If u have had any dealings with the large Japanese corporations that are the leaders in the Camera game, you may understand this. Remember Sigma still makes all of its lenses in Japan, Do Canon or Nikon? Sigma are small, and hence get used to the fovean chip living in Quirky camera's built by a small company with a minuscule budget compared to a N or C. Alternatively we can drown in what these forums seem to thrive on, I want, Why didn't they, It should have had, They are stupid etc, etc etc.
Its only Sigma Technology because they bought it! All other manufacturers could have bought into the technology but they didn't. WHY NOT? Speculating, it could be, Pride, Cost, contracts that are in place, sharing of current Technology etc. I do know that Sigma bear the huge costs of going this path, whereas all other manufacturers benefit from sharing some of the burden of development of the currently used sensor technologies, This includes the software side of raw processing etc