HappyVan: What a strange conclusion?
Sensor size is 58% of FF. Resolution (19mp) is 53% of D800. So, small improvement over D800 is expected. NO big deal.
The real deal breaker is the price and weight (5 lb).
The other factor is economic. The D800 seems have a similar IQ to D600 (I have no experience with this camera) despite its greater pixel density.
I assume that's because the D800's price buys extra capture and processing technology.
Actually, I shoot Nikon DX and FF. My observation is that FF shadows are better even if the DxO score for DR is the same.
The reason is that the NR is greater on smaller sensor images. So, FF details are intact. The amount of light collected does matter.
Hope this helps.
What a strange conclusion?
Bervilat: No words on macro?
Just put it in your other pocket. Balances out the phone.
HappyVan: To be honest, I wouldn't depend on the phone for photos.
I would slip the Nikon AW110 into my other pocket. Its footprint is even smaller than my Sony Esperia S. It's rain and freeze proof, and comes with wifi.
You can even take semi-submerged shots of a flood. Of course, it has an optical zoom.
On a budget, there is the Nikon S32 $129.
Willing to carry a chunkier camera? There's the Nikon One cameras with PDAF and able to print a clean 18x12. The J1 kit is available for $249
True. How often do you use the zoom in your MFT?
The Nikon AW110 has a smaller footprint than the Sony Experia S. And, the AW110 macro distance is according to B&H only Macro: 0.39" (1 cm) - Infinity .
HappyVan: Cor Blimey!
All this effort to review a camera phone? Really?
Congratulations! You have just established which camera phone is best. But, are you buying a phone just for the camera?
I hope that you are right.
Anyway, I started a discussion at Open Talk Forum. Do join in and give us the DPR perspective.
I'm pleased that the discussion has proceeded in a civil manner so far.
There must be a minority who think that DPR can do no wrong! Hail Mary!
To be honest, I wouldn't depend on the phone for photos.
I like the insights offered by the CNET guy. Short and to the point.
"Nokia's deep investment in outrageous optics continues in the Lumia 1520. Like other Nokia phones, the 1520 uses Carl Zeiss Optics and the PureView technology that Nokia is associating with its brand. There are ball bearings for effective optical image stabilization, and a dual-LED flash instead of the Xenon flash found in both Verizon's Lumia 928 and in the Lumia 1020.
You'll also find a backside-illuminated sensor and a f/2.4 aperture, 16:9 default aspect ratio, and 26mm focal length."
The other sites look pretty detailed and knowledgeable.
Here's the important thing. DPR has good access to the camera brands and a network of contacts in the camera industry. Does Connect have the same with the phone manufactures, apps developers and mobility pundits?
IMO, the exciting longer term development is large sensor compacts. Once the price comes down, it's going to be hot. You could be networking and reviewing Sony A7 and Nikon A. There's upward mobility there?
Each system has its strengths and weaknesses. Play to its strength and avoid stressing its weaknesses.
A camera phone is mobile. FF may be the best for art pictures. Birding is best done with long telephoto lenses.
My experience is that macro is easiest done with lenses with nice manual focus control.
Each system has its natural strengths.
Noogy: I own a Nokia 1520. It is an amazing smartphone, for its camera and for watching videos during my travels. I own three DSLRs (one FF, two cropped), one mirrorless camera and a Galaxy Note 3 - that I eventually gave my wife. All criticisms hurled at DPR for doing this and towards the device itself - I had to personally use the phone for a few hours before I decided to buy one. It fits my usage model (60-70% business which means lots of emails, editing native MS Office files and web surfing). It is great for instant photo opportunities with friends when I don't have my DSLR with me. It takes HD videos like a number of other smartphones. It excels at everything I want it to do. I will never be rich enough for a smartphone to be custom-built for me :) But after using the Nokia 1520 for a month now, it's the closest smartphone that ever came to that! Thanks DPR for this review!
Don't take offence. No one said that the Nokia is a bad instrument. The issue I raised was whether DPR needs a separate mobility site, and to do 11 page reviews of just the camera.
Thing is that a short review with useful comments is enough for me.
Actually, there was a hysterical thread in Open Talk Forum. Said that Canikon should make camera phones because that's where the customers were.
I question whether DPR should have a Connect site. They are not experts on handphones. Don't offer a comprehensive analysis of handphones.
The problem is not why you bought the phone. The issue is why DPR is spending scarce resources on these camera phone reviews.
It's cool to be trendy. But will these reviews build readership? Are there not countless technical and mobility sites already doing full reviews (communications, apps and photographic)?
HappyVan: Excellent! Timely boost for M43. Market share of ILC is insignificant with big discounts coming.
This will help a lot?
For TN Argos,
You might find it painful if your pro glass is worth peanuts when the brand folds like Minolta.
I don't mind a small expenditure on stuff like Nikon One. But, I learned my lesson with the Pany GH1.
HappyVan: What about lens selection? EM1 may be the favour of the day. But, APSC lens selection for DSLR is way better.
For example, Sigma 18-35 1.8 matches DOF control of FF. What is the EM1 equivalent?
Yeah! You do better work!
Look at this.
Or, this. What were you thinking. Look at how popular it is.
This won't sell?
Why was this viewed >200 times?
You think being popular on DPR is a measure of success? The interesting work of Ed Ruscha, Thomas Struth, Ian Wallace, the Bechers etc would pass right over their heads.
To help you, I can offer an insight into DPR photog. Interested.?
What a laugh. Lot's of famous pictures of car parks, gas stations etc.
Look at many highly regarded photog. Individual photographs may be unremarkable or strange. Collectively, they represent an idea, vision or intention.
That's art, not mere recording.
Anyway, I don't sell my stuff.
Point and shoot?
I had a laugh at your comments. You're a no-talent stalker. You freaked out when I revealed that the emperor had no clothes.