Jeff Doubter said it best (he usually does,,,).
This is an oil-free tooling by The Man. The tooling is constant, it's horrific, and it's oil-free. We're being tooled.
Stop the tooling.
Not participating in this poll.
Let the company find out for themselves.
THE HARD WAY.
I think DPR are simply running a poll to increase the number of clicks. I don't think they've got some sort of different ulterior motive -- just $.
My concern remains whether the latest version is the one that must be run on all client machines -- I'd rather not, because the latest version is by default the version that's been tested the least.
By the way: Has the halfwit from yesterday's discussion been by in this thread yet to explain how the new Adobe model means... cheaper software? He was a barrel of laughs.
Adam Filipowicz: I bet most of the people that are complaining about paying a small fee to use photoshop, dont own a license and have a pirated copy.. becasue if your complaing about $20 then whats the likelyhood you bought it for $1000
I now understand the grin in your avatar. Sorry.
Much worse than I expected; much more disconnected. He fails to admit that in a professional environment the latest version of a software package is a liability, not a benefit. New versions haven't been tested in the environment. He understands this, but doesn't address it -- or rather tries to make a drawback into a benefit -- because it suits his purposes.
It doesn't suit ours.
rhlpetrus: Will Adobe update the DNG converter? If so, one can keep using CS6 forever (well, at least while th OS opens it).
That's not a bad idea at all. Storage isn't as much of a cost or problem as it used to be, so that may be an answer for many users.
I can't imagine why they would.
Their subscription model is apparently as appreciated as flatulence at a funeral, so they need some means of pressuring users to move toward their new model rather than keep existing (working...) software.
Also, once they commit to the new model, at some point the code bases will diverge, meaning Adobe will have to keep people working on the "old" code that doesn't generate subscriptions. They'd have little, if any, incentive to do so -- after all, they want to abandon that code right now anyway.
DotCom Editor: Thank you for writing the grammatically proper "in its Galaxy line" instead of the egregiously incorrect "their Galaxy line."
I suspect your comment reflects parochialism; your mistreatment of collective nouns seems a bit, well... I'd rather not say...
Don't give up though, keep trying.
Our issue with all this isn't so much the regular need for web connectivity; it's the possibility of taking away the option of running a previous version. Our experience has been that the latest release isn't always the greatest, and we don't deploy software we've not first tested -- meaning we don't update when the vendor releases a new version, we update when we know the new version works OK in our environment.
Do Adobe want the latest version running on all their subscribers' machines? If so, it's not that kind of party. We'll find another solution.
Greynerd: I do love it when sigma bring out a new lens for m43. There is such a massive struggle for so many users with the concept that people would want to buy a cheap lens when they can just get a better lens for lots more money.No macro. I mean really really mega slow at f2.8, no distance scale, no DOF indicator - it just makes you shudder with the horror of it.
Yes exactly, in fact I've got an f/2.8 on my rangefinder. This is analogous. If people don't like it they don't have to buy it, and I agree that a DOF scale is pointless.
Off topic: I wonder this: are there third-party lens makes that produce lensed in Sigma mount? That'd be ironic.
rallyfan: Did the G5 sell well enough that a DPR test was not deemed necessary by Amazon?
OK great then, looking forward to review.
Abaregi: Whats the point if you can buy and DSLR with an APS-C for the same price?
Is it not mirrorless and if so why not NEX sized?
I don't see any evidence of moving subject focusing one way or another. The samples are almost entirely static subjects. I'd love to see something moving -- a runner, a vehicle, an aircraft, something -- in order to be able to at least get an idea of how well focus works.
kruezr: We were in London last year with my SX260. I shot many of the same scenes under similar conditions (sunny). After looking at these photos and looking back at the ones I took last year, I don't see a difference worthy of investing in this new camera.
To me the real question is this: if these pictures are not the only things the camera is capable of doing, why not SHOW those other things? WHERE are the sports shots? Why not show us a football match or a car or something moving faster than a statue here, and in, say, the case of the Panasonic G6 samples, so we can actually compare and see which camera has better AF on MOVING subjects?
Is there a reason not to do this?
Do you foresee a G6 review then?
Smaller, lighter, less expensive are all moves in the right direction. I bet this will sell very well. I'd buy.
Did the G5 sell well enough that a DPR test was not deemed necessary by Amazon?
I don't just buy the product but also "the company" in that post-purchase support affects our decisions. Well I have to say, in my country Sigma are very helpful!
This is an admission from someone who initially thought their DSLR pricing was idiotic, and their picket cam fans ranged from delusional to creepy (upon further reflection I was right about the DSLRs, and as for the other cams I now like them less...). Sigma have good customer support in my experience! This makes a difference I think.
Looking forward to full review.
Joachim Gerstl: I wished Ricoh came out with this camera 6 month earlier. I will most likely get it to replace my RX100 but I hate to buy and sell things like a teenager.
How did you like the RX100 though? That is, what is the RX100 missing that you like in the GR? This is interesting. Thanks.
peevee1: Another fixed focal length fixed lens cam? Do you ALWAYS shoot at a single focal length and don't care about composition and perspective at all? How many people are like that? They all have been served by X100 2 years ago (and a few of them may upgrade to X100s, maybe). RX1, Nikon A, Ricoh GR etc will just fail in the market, because the market is too small. If any customer will buy a camera like that by mistake, they will return it as soon as they find out that it is just as limited as their phone, only there is no even the "pinch to zoom" digital zoom.And this GR does not even have any stabilization, at all, so it sucks even compared to a good smartphone.
Get over yourself. Insulting people when you're incorrect only helps you feel better for a short while. Your issues are still there.
mumintroll: I can see clearly from samples, that Sigma DP1 is still a light year ahead in IQ.
Con. Sigma bad on high ISO.Pro. Sigma has no moire thanks to its' chip.
Cool story bro.