rhlpetrus: Will Adobe update the DNG converter? If so, one can keep using CS6 forever (well, at least while th OS opens it).
I can't imagine why they would.
Their subscription model is apparently as appreciated as flatulence at a funeral, so they need some means of pressuring users to move toward their new model rather than keep existing (working...) software.
Also, once they commit to the new model, at some point the code bases will diverge, meaning Adobe will have to keep people working on the "old" code that doesn't generate subscriptions. They'd have little, if any, incentive to do so -- after all, they want to abandon that code right now anyway.
DotCom Editor: Thank you for writing the grammatically proper "in its Galaxy line" instead of the egregiously incorrect "their Galaxy line."
I suspect your comment reflects parochialism; your mistreatment of collective nouns seems a bit, well... I'd rather not say...
Don't give up though, keep trying.
Our issue with all this isn't so much the regular need for web connectivity; it's the possibility of taking away the option of running a previous version. Our experience has been that the latest release isn't always the greatest, and we don't deploy software we've not first tested -- meaning we don't update when the vendor releases a new version, we update when we know the new version works OK in our environment.
Do Adobe want the latest version running on all their subscribers' machines? If so, it's not that kind of party. We'll find another solution.
Greynerd: I do love it when sigma bring out a new lens for m43. There is such a massive struggle for so many users with the concept that people would want to buy a cheap lens when they can just get a better lens for lots more money.No macro. I mean really really mega slow at f2.8, no distance scale, no DOF indicator - it just makes you shudder with the horror of it.
Yes exactly, in fact I've got an f/2.8 on my rangefinder. This is analogous. If people don't like it they don't have to buy it, and I agree that a DOF scale is pointless.
Off topic: I wonder this: are there third-party lens makes that produce lensed in Sigma mount? That'd be ironic.
rallyfan: Did the G5 sell well enough that a DPR test was not deemed necessary by Amazon?
OK great then, looking forward to review.
Abaregi: Whats the point if you can buy and DSLR with an APS-C for the same price?
Is it not mirrorless and if so why not NEX sized?
I don't see any evidence of moving subject focusing one way or another. The samples are almost entirely static subjects. I'd love to see something moving -- a runner, a vehicle, an aircraft, something -- in order to be able to at least get an idea of how well focus works.
kruezr: We were in London last year with my SX260. I shot many of the same scenes under similar conditions (sunny). After looking at these photos and looking back at the ones I took last year, I don't see a difference worthy of investing in this new camera.
To me the real question is this: if these pictures are not the only things the camera is capable of doing, why not SHOW those other things? WHERE are the sports shots? Why not show us a football match or a car or something moving faster than a statue here, and in, say, the case of the Panasonic G6 samples, so we can actually compare and see which camera has better AF on MOVING subjects?
Is there a reason not to do this?
Do you foresee a G6 review then?
Smaller, lighter, less expensive are all moves in the right direction. I bet this will sell very well. I'd buy.
Did the G5 sell well enough that a DPR test was not deemed necessary by Amazon?
I don't just buy the product but also "the company" in that post-purchase support affects our decisions. Well I have to say, in my country Sigma are very helpful!
This is an admission from someone who initially thought their DSLR pricing was idiotic, and their picket cam fans ranged from delusional to creepy (upon further reflection I was right about the DSLRs, and as for the other cams I now like them less...). Sigma have good customer support in my experience! This makes a difference I think.
Looking forward to full review.
Joachim Gerstl: I wished Ricoh came out with this camera 6 month earlier. I will most likely get it to replace my RX100 but I hate to buy and sell things like a teenager.
How did you like the RX100 though? That is, what is the RX100 missing that you like in the GR? This is interesting. Thanks.
peevee1: Another fixed focal length fixed lens cam? Do you ALWAYS shoot at a single focal length and don't care about composition and perspective at all? How many people are like that? They all have been served by X100 2 years ago (and a few of them may upgrade to X100s, maybe). RX1, Nikon A, Ricoh GR etc will just fail in the market, because the market is too small. If any customer will buy a camera like that by mistake, they will return it as soon as they find out that it is just as limited as their phone, only there is no even the "pinch to zoom" digital zoom.And this GR does not even have any stabilization, at all, so it sucks even compared to a good smartphone.
Get over yourself. Insulting people when you're incorrect only helps you feel better for a short while. Your issues are still there.
mumintroll: I can see clearly from samples, that Sigma DP1 is still a light year ahead in IQ.
Con. Sigma bad on high ISO.Pro. Sigma has no moire thanks to its' chip.
Cool story bro.
I am disappointed by image P1000033 in the samples. This is the only useful image provided for my purposes, and it's good that DPR have actually started providing images of moving subjects. However, the shadow cast by the board onto the runner has poor details and there is also a loss of detail in the sand, especially as it approaches the water line, and in the leg extended posteriorly.
I don't know if it's the camera, the lens, or the photographer, but I'd hesitate to consider the GH3 and Panny lens combo used vs. my existing Canon lenses -- now that there is an SL1 option and size of a second body isn't an issue, Panasonic (or DPR? I can't tell) will need to do better for the price.
Please, more moving subject shots. Thanks!
Seems to have gained a stop or so. Good to see.
Can we please have some samples of moving objects? A car, a runner, a bike, anything not standing still?
EricAotearoa: I thought Nikon was a camera manufacturer, I didn't realise they were in to assisting the slaughtering of potential photographic subjects. If someone thinks of him/herself as hunter, yet hides a long distance away and uses high power weaponry in order to kill another living being, that is nothing to be proud of. I see that as plain cowardice. No different to hiding in a building and shooting children playing in the street. If he/she were truely as brave as they think then he/she would not use weapons at all. So, Nikon, why not use your photographic expertise for what it is best at. Building high quality photographic tools. I'd rather see a photo of an animal, that you've got up close to, on your wall rather than the head of an animal that you've killed from miles away. Now I'll just sit back and wait for all the red neck abuse to come my way. ;-)
Too long; didn't read.
kaiser soze: Several comments here claiming that the SL1 obviates mirrorless cameras. Very silly. WxLxH for this camera is 2x the NEX-7, which isn’t Sony’s smallest mirrorless camera. And presently at least, for this camera there is no collapsible lens of the sort that Sony and Panasonic make. Still a big, big difference in compactness. The biggest disadvantage of mirrorless is the high cost of the really good electronic viewfinders. But that changes very soon, now that Epson is in the picture. The advantages are the ability to use the viewfinder when shooting video, live view in the viewfinder, magnification in the viewfinder to aid manual focusing, brighter image in viewfinder for dark subject and/or high f-number, and access to camera menus via the viewfinder. All real advantages. The SL1 is no doubt going to be a nice camera, but it is naive to think that it obviates the advantages of mirrorless cameras.
No rational person would use a Sony body to AF Canon lenses and track a moving subject.
μ4/3 is now irrelevant due to this small SLR body. If an EOS M successor can track sports subjects better and is smaller, OK. NEX is useless. Why? It won't AF Canon lenses. Who will willingly carry two different systems at a special stage?!
If this SLR tracks subjects OK I'll buy a body to carry.
Your tone is insulting and your choice of characterizations has lowered the quality of the discussion.
The street price should be less and the controls look OK. It'd be interesting to see it in person.
This makes me much less interested in μ4/3 bodies. I'd like to see a comparison between this and the OMD, but for a change I'd like to see SPORTS SHOTS rather than a bridge in the samples.
If this is quicker to focus and keeps subjects tracked well, I want one. The lenses aren't an issue, I've got them. I want a small body that can track a moving object. I don't care about scenery shots and buildings etc. Moving objects, focus tracking -- that's it.
Will this beat the μ4/3 bodies at sports shots? If so, I'm in.