A fun overview but how many voters have real hands on experiencewith the products they voted for?
Tom_A: More interesting is the recently introduced Lomo with 120 film. In itself a rather cool entry to medium format cameras, and portable as well, but it is as expensive as a 2nd hand MF Fuji rangefinder...
Gentlemen, it is indeed the recent Lomo 120 I was referring to, not the Lubitel. The Lomo 120 has glass lenses, but it it still expensive for what you get compared to Wye's Fuji. BTW, I have the non-zoom GA645, an awesome travel medium format camera.Now I did buy Lomography's Belair 6x12 camera with the optional glass Zenith lens as it is so extreme without easily available 2nd hand alternatives at the price, and it is indeed capable of good results if you keep your mind to it and if you use a tripod, and especially if you make certain not to cause vibrations when pressing the shutter (an unfortunate design error puts the shutter release at the front where the lens is).I also bought their rebranded Horizon 202 camera (the variant with full manual control), and that one is truly a superb thing, a panoramic camera with a rotating lens and capable of excellent results. Really fun to take on holiday next to a normal dslr.
I tried the 6 Plus in the shop and I was impressed by the image quality and well controlled noise. Considering that the best camera is the one that you have with you, with the 6 Plus in your pocket you can shoot quite acceptable pictures at all those occasions you don't have your "proper" gear with you. I will likely upgrade from my 4S to the 6 Plus. It won't replace my Fuji, but I am curious to compare the image quality with my old Nikon D200+35mm lens - this was a great camera but it is now obsolete. I still expect the Nikon to have better skin colour, yet in general it wouldn't surprise me if the iPhone were able to hold its own.
More interesting is the recently introduced Lomo with 120 film. In itself a rather cool entry to medium format cameras, and portable as well, but it is as expensive as a 2nd hand MF Fuji rangefinder...
A very good series !It reminds me a bit of the work of Edward Burtinsky.
marc petzold: There is a way strong demand for the latest RX100 III iteration, and even dpreview wouldn't say "GOLD AWARD" soon i'd say so - because i can hardly remember any other compact digicam here on dpr which collected that muchcomments into a short time period - and i'm a silent reader here on dpr since 2001! just couldn't decide all these years to register to the forums earlier. :-)
Besides that, we *might* see way strong competition for the RX100M3 into the near future (think about Lumix LX8, it's rumored to have 4k video recording capabilities, or wait & see about Fujifilm X30, Nikon P8000 soon) but Sony is really to applaud for making such great IQ inside a very small package - now even with a way good EVF (for it's class)
I think in terms of IQ - the G1X II Canon is simply no match - sure, it does have a APS-C sensor instead of 1" like all RX100 iterations, but Sony madea way good job with it's processing engine - and, after all: you can't have D4SIQ inside a camera that small! :-)
These are interesting times. Unless someone needs a compact camera right now (as in, the old one is broken), then it is better to wait a few more weeks and see how the X30 and LX8 will measure up.As an aside, I still have and enjoy the LX5. I can see myself upgrading to one of the above cameras, esp. since I sometimes like to film with it and the new ones are quite a bit better for that.
Fresh, interesting "fabricated landscapes". A good idea, well executed. I was less impressed by the people pictures. They were very lomography-like. Spontaneous, but no interest for me.
Tom_A: I understand that not all improvements could be applied to an XE-1 firmware, but it would be good to see at least the focus peak color change feature in the XE-1.
Considering their history, I expect a new firmware for our nice XE1 as well. Currently the focus peak is difficult to discern in the EVF, I hope that a colour change would help.The performance improvements may be too linked to the hardware of the XE2 to be backwards compatible but the feature improvements might work on the XE1.
The samples definitely look good enough. It would be interesting to compare side by side to an 85mm f1.8 on a full frame camera which I expect would have similar DOF wide open.
I understand that not all improvements could be applied to an XE-1 firmware, but it would be good to see at least the focus peak color change feature in the XE-1.
Maklike Tier: What I don't quite understand, is that if there is only two manufacturers of sensors, then how is this Leica body any different to any other 16Mp APSC sensored body? Does Leica have some crazy proprietary knowledge in regards to how to 'get the best out of' any given sensor, or is it all really about the Leica glass? I will admit though the work they've done on the GUI is outstanding from what I've seen. So incredibly intuitive and fast to change. Only thing really lacking is the ability to do multiple custom set-ups which I think would be the proverbial icing. If I was a GUI designer I'd be sending my resume to all the majors right about now. I expect there's some red faces and crapped undies in their design departments......
I don't know who made the sensor of this camera, but it is well known that the (reputedly capable) M sensor is designed and made in Europe, so that one is not a Canon or Sony sensor. The M sensor was designed by a Belgian company (Cmosis) whose usual market is the professional world and sensors for sattelites etc, and it was made in France. It would not surprise me if the new T camera has the same source for its sensor.
JapanAntoine: Going through that kind of pain, I'd rather buy a 6x6, like the Fuji ones (http://fujifilm.jp/personal/filmandcamera/filmcamera/mediumformat/index.html)Or any good Medium format film camera that you can find second-hand by the hundreds!
You have a point. I still use medium format (Rolleiflex, Fuji) next to my digital gear and it can be largely good enough.
electrophoto: So you pack this contraption, have to buy the 90mm lens (as it supposedly only comes with the pinhole attachment) pack in about 30 sheets of film and your 35 liter travel pack is full to the brim. ... so much for "goes wherever you go"...And 30 hipster shots later you're out of film and probably using the iphone again.
..Or get a more practical camera to begin with.
Guys. Think about Ansel Adams. An example of slow, limited yet knowledgeable photo taking in nature. That is what can be cool with this camera.I'd still bring a more manageable camera as well. This could not be my single camera on a trip
T3: These days, I'm really of the opinion that it's really all about the photos you make, not about the device you use to make them. I think this camera is really about the device you use to make the photos. When I look at a photo, I really couldn't care less about what device made the photo (whether it be a smart phone, or an m4/3 camera, or a 35mm FF camera, or a 4x5 camera). I just care if the photo is good or not. However, this camera should be fun for someone who gets a kick out of shooting with a unique device. I just don't think a device such as a 4x5 camera should be used so haphazardly as a "point-n-shoot". Kinda defeats the purpose of 4x5 if you're just zone focusing, handholding, pointing and shooting like the guy in the video.
If I had one, I'd probably use it for portraits, on a tripod, not really for travel.
While I like the idea of the device, I agree with your conclusion: this is a camera for thoughtful, deliberate shooting on a tripod, and then enjoy the quality afterwards. Using it as a P&S is a quick path to very expensive disappointment.
GodSpeaks: This 'might' have been interesting back in the days of film (ie: last Century), but today?
Go to a photography museum and look at the big prints, even the modern ones. They are usually taken with 4x5". You will be impressed with the quality.
mrdancer: So, I get the impression that this camera is most suited for landscape photography.
What if I pull my little camera out of my pocket, slap it on a tripod and take a few dozen photos, spend 2-3 minutes with Image Composite Editor to automatically stitch them together and end up with same or higher-resolution image with much more DOF? Photo setup time is probably about the same to ensure I get a decent end product, post-production maybe a little quicker with the little camera (assuming I convert RAWs, also). Maybe I lose some DR compared to the film, but could probably get most of that back by shooting RAWs.
Then I can use the little camera to shoot all kinds of other photos, too, and not have to carry a backpack with it...
What's the advantage of this big camera again?
Indeed, mrdancer, rent a 4x5 kit,study the operation, make landscape pictures, examine the results and you'd wish that you could delete your comment.
tkbslc: I have a hard time believing a $150 plastic film camera can beat even a high end compact, large film or no.
Edit: Looking through the photos on flickr, I think you'd better off with a quality used 35mm camera if you are after the film look and some DOF control. Maybe something like the Olympus XA or Stylus Epic.
Let us talk facts, not perception. The lens is the most important part. With a good lens, and decent light metering and guesstimate of distance the result will be on par wiht a Linhof. A 4x5" scanned at 3200 dpi (you could go higher, let's be "reasonable" here would yield a picture of 4x5x3200x3200 pixels or almost 205 (!) Megapixel. This is why those enormous picturesin museums are usually made with technical cameras.An Alpa camera (google them) is not that much more user friendly, yet its customers don't complain.
i don't agree. This does not aim to be a a Technika, but a cheap entry to large format photography. Despite not having movements, it is good for large prints at museum quality if the proper lens and tripod are used.
Soggoth: Without traditional view camera standard movements (rise, fall, tilt, shift) the whole idea doesn't have much sense
The XT-1 with its wonderful clasic Contax-like styling is gorgeous. Having great experience with an XE-1, I am lusting after this.And it must be said that the Lomography Petzval, here shown as a tangible object, is an interesting experiment. The idea of re-creating these old lens formulas is appealing to me, to unique look of the nervous bokeh does not make it universal but it can be interesting.