disraeli demon: Ha... Last year Panasonic copied the form-factor of the NEX-6 with the GX7, now Sony is copying the form-factor of the GF6... It's like musical chairs played with industrial design.
Mainly the view finder placement, people had been asking for an L1 style M43 body with a corner EVF long before even the Sony NEX-7 was announced.
Flashback: Sony, now that you decided not to fit the EVF why didn't you give us a larger bright screen?
Why are we stuck at 3 inch LCD's?
My smart phone has a 4.8inch screen. It is bright and high-resolution.
Not just you Sony, but all you camera manufacturers, take a dip into the phone world and give us some decent LCD's.
If the screen were any bigger there'd be no space for physical buttons. I'm sure some people would like a fully touch screen interface well enough, but the current size seems a good compromise between screen size, body size and physical controls.
M0P03: I want Sony to make this camera and A6000 without slow and bulky interchangeble lens. Fixed 24-100/2-4 same size would be much useful.
> Fixed 24-100/2-4 same size would be much useful
Much useful but probably not physically possible for an APS sensor. 1" sensors like in the RX100 seem to be a good compromise between sensor size and being able to offer a fast, compact zoom lens.
chj: Finally APS-C touchscreen with good autofocus!!!! Hallelujah, did it really have to take this long? I held off on buying a camera for so long because I figured Sony's next good mirrorless would surely be touchscreen. Model after model, they disappointed me. This was the camera I was waiting for. Unfortunately for Sony, I lost patience, bought the Panasonic GM1 and invested in m4/3rds lenses. (I freakin' love the GM1). Too slow Sony, now get a touchscreen on the RX100 before the competition beats you to it again.
@Rob Sims, the GM1 does have a built-in popup flash.
Arguably the GX7 is also based on the Panasonic L1's form factor, tho all of these form factors can be traced back to 1930s range finders.
nunatak: now if only Sony could deliver all this in a 1" sensor — along with the glass required to make it work — they'd MILC the competition. :)
I don't think it would be cost effective to start yet another lens mount rather than supporting their existing mounts. Anyway given that Nikon 1 lenses aren't /that/ much smaller it seems like 1" is the size where having a fixed lens (ala RX100) makes more sense.
Mike FL: There is NO ANY real low-light scene sample.
Such as samsung_nxmini_ISO12800_SAM_0046 is NOT a low-light scene as it uses 1/250 sec and F8. In the other word, the lighting condition is: ISO=100, F2.8, 1/15 sec.
Above just one example/sample, and it would be useful if DPR will add some REAL low-light scene samples.
"LV3 is BRIGHTly lit night street scenes" and an average night scene is LV2, a dim night scene LV1 and the average indoors scene is all the way up at LV7.
Really? 3LV (20 lux) isn't low enough for you? What do you want, a landscape shot in the wilderness on a moonless night?
You have a pretty strange definition of "low light" if you think 3EV isn't low light.
dash2k8: Don't know if anyone already commented on this, but as an owner of the A7s, I absolutely HATE the position of the video record button. Would it have killed Sony to place it anywhere else? As it is, pressing the REC button induces a shake that ruins the first 10 or so frames of the video. This annoyance aside, so far it's been great.
Doesn't it let you use the shutter button to start recording if you're in movie mode on the mode dial? Bit of an oversight if not.
@Mike Did you even look for it? It's right there on the first page, ISO3200-SAM_0578, the shot of a kid in a museum.
Sure if you had a static subject you could use OIS to drop the shutter speed, but given it's a kid you'd want the shutter speed relatively high to avoid motion blur if the kid moves.
@Timmbits Mike was complaining there were no low light shots, but the ISO3200 1/80 f1.8 shot is exactly the kind of exposure that auto mode would pick in a realistic low light setting. Obviously its not candle light or anything, but that kind of indoor lighting is what the camera will face a lot of the time.
Oh come on, you really think shooting at ISO12800 is in any way representative of how you'd do low light shooting on a 1" sensor in the real world? The ISO3200 1/80 f1.8 shot is much more representative of how it handles in real life.
Cheng Bao: I notice some photos are deliberated dial down exposure for 1.xx stop, then pushed up in acr by 1.xx stop, why?
Better highlight DR? I do that on my camera all the time to avoid blown highlights.
mpgxsvcd: This Canon has an F3.4 to F6.0 24–1008 mm lens. They might as well have just included a fixed focal length 24mm F3.4 lens because that is about the only focal length and aperture that is remotely close to useful on this camera.
What, you think you'll be able to actually notice diffraction above the usual imperfections on ultrazoom lenses like this?
imsabbel: Hm. Seems to be a bit soft even in the center region, and has quite a bit of uncorrected chromatic abberation left, to the point of it really being distacting (i.e. on the left/right wall of buildings as in 8169).
I think I will keep my 10-22.
The 10-18mm is half the price of the 10-22, what were you expecting?
eastwestphoto: This is a lousy review from Andy Westlake- Most old leica fans want to know if they can use an older leica M mount lens on this camera? If so how does a 50mm perform on it and what angle of view will cover the chip entirely without vignetting the chip? What size is this chip? m4/3, or APS-C? DPreview is a manufacturers review forum for New camera, new lens and they are so biased against photographers who adapt old lenses to new mirrorless cameras, its disgusting and obvious bias. I would match my leitz Leica summicron 40mm F:2 CL lens against any NEW lens made for this camera in zoom and a manual lens test would of allowed me to understand, distortion, chromatic abberation and image quality of JPEG and contrast. After all Mr. Westlake, we do buy bodies and use our old lenses! Wake Up! Don@Eastwestphoto
Um, they state the sensor size (APS) literally on the first page, and again on the 2nd page. They also discuss the M adapter on page 4.
tommy leong: hope it uses Sony mount ;)
would be awesome if they had a full silver lens to match
It doesn't, it uses a new custom mount.
GeorgeP71: The last Leica review was in 2009. The CONS outnumbervthevPros. And the review gave it ( Highly Recommended) ???
Um, score isn't based on the number of pros and cons (eg. a few important pros outweigh a bunch of minor cons) and the Leica X1 only got a "Recommended" badge, not a "Highly Recommended"
DuxX: A good camera with incompetent sensor. The minimum size of the sensor for any serious camera should be APS-C. Sorry Nikon.
"Smaller sensor cant be better than bigger ones. That's a physics. "
If that were true then IQ would never improve. Yes given sensors that are identical in every way other than size a bigger one will be better, but each year sensors get better and new smaller sensors are very capable of beating older larger sensors. Even in the same year the quality difference is enough that a small high quality sensor can beat a larger mediocre sensor.
You don't have to take my word for it, DPR did a whole article about it http://connect.dpreview.com/post/5533410947/smartphones-versus-dslr-versus-film