Petroglyph: He's the CEO of a privately held company, and as such, has no boss to worry about if saying the 'wrong' thing. It always makes for a great interview. My impression of the Canon guy, seemed to be looking over his shoulder before talking. It looks like Sigma will compete with Nikon & Canon and try to jump into the FE market. They aren't going to try anything much in the K-mount world while PK flesh out their FA* line over the next few years. Probably wait 'n see there. The 18-35 f/1.8 should have been a winner in K-mount but was evidently inconsistent at AF.
To me it just sounded like K-mount is an afterthought for them. I don't think they really see themselves as competing with Pentax directly -- they build very different lenses (wide aperture, heavy, not sealed) than your typical Pentax lens. If they have production capacity to do a K-mount run, then they do one and it sells out, but it sounds like that would just be gravy to them. And I can totally see why with all the stunning optics they've released over the last year or two they simply don't need to even think about K-mount. If you knew you were going to sell everything you manufacture regardless, would you choose to retool once, or two or three times? Retooling costs money. Brand loyalty is not on their radar, they could care less if we're peeved we may not see the 24 in K-mount. A 3rd-party lens buyer is by definition non-brand-loyal to the camera brand, much less the 3rd-party lens maker.
People don't buy what you do, they buy why you do it."We want to see class-leading products with our name on them""We're so passionate about photography, we even make a camera that loses money. And we're not going to stop doing that, because we love to satisfy our loyal customers""We value craftsmanship over management, engineering over marketing"I love this guy he's awesome. He should be their sole source of marketing strategy. Their ad agency should point a mic at that guy, record it, and play it over and over again to themselves until they've completely understood what he's saying. My future lens purchases will be from Sigma as much as possible.
Paul Petersen: Well thats a bucket of cold water on my hopes. I am a D90 shooter ready to upgrade... I was anticipating based on rumors basically a D750 body with a cropped sensor. I need to shoot good video and a tilting screen would be very valuable and a 5500 is not an option. I have big hands so the grip would have been better. Also I shoot stage productions and would love the highlight weighted metering but it looks like the better meter is needed for that.Well I have a couple of months to wait before I have to decide.
"If you can pair up the smartphone via NFC that would give you better option than tilting screen in some ways. "
Not if someone tries to call you while your shooting. ;-)
Sonyshine: So the D7200 is really what the D7100 should always have been - a cracking DX all-rounder camera with a PROPER SIZED buffer!
Now where is the D400.....
I don't get why the exceptional 70-200 f/4 isn't as attractive or moreso than a 50-135. Personally, I find 50mm neither here nor there on APS/C, available with practically any standard zoom lens, and far less useful than 200mm on the long end. As for fast APS/C only 16mm and 18mm glass, you're only going to find that in mirrorless mounts. It's physics. And if you weren't aware, Nikon currently has a pretty excellent line of f/1.8 primes that I'm sure will work fine on DX as well. Then you've got acces to the excellent Tokina f/2.8 zooms, I'm a bit jealous of your selection on the wide end coming from Pentax to tell the truth!
KL Matt: -3 EV AF was one area (that and buffer, frame rate) where the Pentax K3 clearly had the 7100 beat. This puts Nikon back on top of the heap with its low-light AF on all 51 points and IMO ahead of the K3, but I could care less about 8 frames per second personally so others may not see it that way. In any case, Nikon users probably have Pentax to thank for this bump in specifications. These are clearly two areas the 7100 lagged behind the Pentax K3.Another example of how competition is really good for the consumer and the market, and fanboyism is by definition foolish. If you're smart, you're cheering on the competition of your chosen brand: because the better the competition's cameras are today, the better your brand's cameras will have to be tomorrow.
"I personally would not touch Nikon's or Canon's crop lenses with a 10 ft long isolated pole. And that is why most people get Pentax, for the optics that does not exist and is not replicated anywhere else"And that is why these days on the Pentax forum I don't touch your posts with a ten foot pole. You're simply off your rocker. Nikon has a range of DX glass that easily rivals or exceeds the Pentax lineup in zooms, lacking only in the pancake prime department. And some of those lenses are real winners, like the 16-85. We'll see if the Pentax answer to that lens, which was just recently released, can live up to the example Nikon has set. I shoot Pentax of course myself, but that doesn't make me a zealot.
As someone else mentioned here, this is unfortunately a sign that plans for a d400 may now be scrapped. Otherwise the 7200 would now be canabalizing some sales from its higher-margin sibling.
-3 EV AF was one area (that and buffer, frame rate) where the Pentax K3 clearly had the 7100 beat. This puts Nikon back on top of the heap with its low-light AF on all 51 points and IMO ahead of the K3, but I could care less about 8 frames per second personally so others may not see it that way. In any case, Nikon users probably have Pentax to thank for this bump in specifications. These are clearly two areas the 7100 lagged behind the Pentax K3.Another example of how competition is really good for the consumer and the market, and fanboyism is by definition foolish. If you're smart, you're cheering on the competition of your chosen brand: because the better the competition's cameras are today, the better your brand's cameras will have to be tomorrow.
Horshack: Roger Cicala posted an evaluation of the lens today on his blog, including a comparison with the Nikon 14-24mm and Canon 16-35 f/2.8
I'd be very cautious about taking on volunteers for quality testing in this industry. There have been people paid money in the past to spread FUD in forums about other brands. An opportunity to deliver a widely published negative quality report about the competition might be a difficult temptation to resist.
GlobalGuyUSA: Regarding bokeh:
The sharpness is really quite good -- well WORTH the price (excellent value lens to be sure), especially for landscape. But if you are buying this lens for Bokeh (f/1.4 afficionados), you'll want to compare your options. The Landscape photographer won't care about this issue (but some others might). The bokeh up-close is pleasant, but mid-range to far-range, its quite goofy:
That is one *very* overcast day. Not sold.
Have you ever looked at the bokeh from other 24mm AF lenses? The direct competition is even goofier.
KL Matt: The lack of anything wider than 31 mm and faster than f/2.8 (for over a decade now!) is my issue, but the new Sigma 24 may be an outstanding solution. Would be fantastic to see that lens released in K-mount around the time the new full frame K-mount hits shelves. But I'd probably still be in the market for a more compact, weather sealed K-mount DFA* 24 f/1.8! Otherwise, yeah, this looks like a decent lineup to start out with. A lot will depend on how well the body is recieved, I assume.
Yes I realize that and although those lenses are theoretically an option, they're old designs from the film days and I'm not really that impressed with the sample images I've seen from them. The recently announced Sigma 24mm 1.4 Art, however, is exactly what I am looking for. I will likely purchase that lens and mate it to a Pentax or Nikon full frame.
The lack of anything wider than 31 mm and faster than f/2.8 (for over a decade now!) is my issue, but the new Sigma 24 may be an outstanding solution. Would be fantastic to see that lens released in K-mount around the time the new full frame K-mount hits shelves. But I'd probably still be in the market for a more compact, weather sealed K-mount DFA* 24 f/1.8! Otherwise, yeah, this looks like a decent lineup to start out with. A lot will depend on how well the body is recieved, I assume.
drummercam: You miss the disco lights? I thought you hated them.
DPR's consistent backhanded digs at Pentax probably encourage the other trolls to follow suite. It seems unprofessional to me, at the very least, especially since they've been reminded of it. There is nothing fresh here about the camera not figured out by others days ago. The one piece of actual news that DPR could have conveyed (about the battery compartment) wasn't mentioned or pictured. I have no interest in the reviewer's mere opinion as to color schemes or something else entirely unspecified about the LCD rotating that apparently irritates him. As for the childish fixation on the K-S1's blinking lights, I'm reminded of nothing so much as New York Times' Gail Collins' fixation on Mitt Romney strapping the family dog on the roof of the car on a drive to Canada. Get over it. This camera is going to sell very well, but for me it won't be a click-through from here to Amazon.
Pentaxia screams: "This means war!" Seriously though Barney do you really think this is smart? I mean Pentax Forums exists for one and only one reason: DPR editors' heavy-handedness banning Pentax forum members. Now they're picking up a lot of the journalism and page views that DPR lacks for all things Pentax. Maybe it's miniscule, but this attitude clearly does impact DPR's bottom line. Wonder how the tone will change if Ricoh/Pentax ever manages to work its way up to 20% market share?
WACONimages: Rather wish they bring out a full-frame or ape-c mirror-less system. They already have some fine pancake lenses.
A relatively sleek-looking K-mount mirrorless as home to the limited pancakes is not an impossibility. As in all things consumer, perception matters most. By designing the K-01 as one large brick, Marc Newson adhered strictly to his design ethos but also created a camera that looks like a big fat bloated fisher price toy when you put it side by side with the mirrorless competition of the time (think Sony). You can make a sleek-looking K-mount mirrorless, you just have to do what Samsung does on the new NX3300 (see Photorumors for pics). Design the camera body as a very thin deck of cards, then slap an elongated mount on it that looks like a lens barrel, and then it doesn't matter what your registration distance is, the camera is still perceived as svelt.
KL Matt: Way to show Pentax fans who's boss with the "disco lights," DPR. I'm normally the first to defend you against the raging Pentax fanboys, but you've truly stooped to their level.
Ouch. Per se, not per say. Embarassing Latin fail.
prossi: These new Pentax dslrs look fugly. There, I said it.
Which cameras do you think are dead sexy?
feilong: Not digging the body design but the lens looks beautiful
That's the timeless FA 31 Limited, released turn of the milenium...set you back 1k, but makes beautiful images. It's the single most important reason this FF Pentax had to be made -- so the FA 31 LE finally has a digital home where it can be a true wide angle again.
LegioAerium: It looks bigger than I expected. I would've preferred LX type styling with a grip. Not sure whether built-in flash in this market segment is needed.
Less bulk please, Pentax!
Yeah. But I don't see a built in flash there, do you? Was kind of surprised they left it off.
The flange back (aka registration) distance is fixed -- you can shorten it, but then existing K-mount lenses wouldn't be able to focus anymore and you'd basically have a new mirrorless mount on your hands. So if you take the mirror box out of a K-mount camera (like they did with the K-01), it's still relatively bulky because of the 4.5 cm or so distance between the sensor and the mount, regardless of how small your pancakes are.
I'm gonna take a wild guess: that rear screen is detachable, and the viewfinder is a hybrid with image overlay that you can review shots with when you've detached the screen. Or the second screen on the right is super-high resolution oled that you can also review shots on. Or the main screen is a touchscreen that communicates with the camera via NFC, you can remove it and you have full remote control with image review on the screen just like you would with a normal, on-board screen....Probably not the case, but it would be cool.