Suave: Surprisingly reasonable price. Looks like someone at Canon has learned his lesson.
Have you ever used the new Nikon AF-S 80-400? It is not necessarily a bargain. but the lens is of such superb quality and is worth every cent. It is far far better than the old version, the inexpensive 70-300, which has the best value for the price and it outperforms many prime lenses. It comes big and heavy, butnot expensive relativ to the quality. A stellar performer.
Please open up again.
What a silly comment regarding the new base ISO of 64 instead of 100: "Now we can more easily use fast aperture lenses wide open in daylight hours to enjoy the dramatic separation of extremely shallow depth of field and selective focusing." First of all it is by no means clear whether the ISO 64 is so much better than the Low 0.3 or 0.7 that the D800 already has. More importantly, this is 2/3 of one aperature stop. With speed up to 1/8000 sec you can use any aperature in any lighting situation. Under what circumstances is 1/8000 sec when you want to use 1.4 or 1.8 not enough? Also the difference between 100 ISO and 64 is roughly the differnce between 1.4. or 1.8. I would argue that no can say by looking at a real picture whether 1.4 or 1.8 has been used. So this "advantage" is nearly pointless in the real world.
Steps of imrovement with all recent releases are getting smaller. Cameras remain competetive in image quality and features for a longer time. And even more important: needs for improvement also become smaller. This will extend camera cycles. I used my Nikkormat Ftn for 20 years, my F 801s for 10 years, my D200 for five, and now I expect to use my D800 again for more than five years. At least I am still using almost all of my old primes.
Assuming the new sensor is as good or better than 5300, professional image quality in bridge camera size. Not the best for all, but the best for the rest. Great camera!
Adding to my previous entry: the two Exacta photos are also very well done. Hasselblad and the cat: Please save this icon of old days from any mistreatment!:)
Very interesting challenge. Some nice approaches and well done. FED and Olympus through the zuiko lens are my favorites. Though some entries are very very simple. What I noticed is, that there is no real still life. Still life was once very popular in painting, but today lives on only as a subcategory of product and comercial photography. A nice still life arranged around an old camera would have been a very nice approach There are only two or three coming close to a still life. To late to submit. I nonetheless applaud the winner of this interesting challenge.
For next years 2014 annual challenges competiton I would suggest a short list to vote on in the categorie "Best photos taken with the five worst reviewed cameras". That would be fun!
25 out of so many challenges is simply not enough. 100 entries like so many challenges would be much better. There could also be more than one category "best shot", but rather several categories, like people, portrait, landscape, wildlife, sport, macro..
Leandros S: I'm going to boycoot this one as my personal favourites aren't here, and it feels a bit stupid being only allowed to vote for what the DPR team have deigned permissible. Condescending, too.
I agree. The typical challenge has 100 entries and that would not be to much as a short list.
This is a very strange selection of 25 photos out of so many challenges. 25 is a very very small number to begin with. Also, some of the photos are only nice, but by no means in any way special. I would argue, there are thousands of pictures in the challenges, that a more artistic and would represent much better entries on a short list than some. And there are three portraits, three macros, but only one real landscape, no real architecture, no sport, ... And finally, it is not clear by which criterion dpreview compiled this short list. Total number of votes, margin of winner against competition would at least honor the voting of so many participants. And I doubt, whether many of the 25 would have made into this list based on this.
Does anyone have any idea what magnification we are looking at?
Lea5: It's the little things where you can see god's art at best.
Since there a so many GODs around people knee and pray to: any clou which one of the special beasts we have to include in our evening prayer for this? Before the debate gets heated I would suggest physics and chemistry:)
Adrian Van: Sales just went up for the D610 after any potential buyers read this review from lensrentals, especially for anyone on the fence on whether to buy (...or rent from lensrentals).
Did not want a D600 because of issue. Now back on my consideration list for next purchase for D610, to upgrade from my D300s once I sell D300s privately. I need the great low light IQ of D610 more than the AF speed of a D300s, plus HD video nice to have.
DF is not even being considered for me, too pricey, and lacking some D610 features like video.
Get a D800. Much better, more versatile, more flexible camera. Particularly the control lay out is a significant step up. The AF-On-Button alone is a must. The technical progress regarding image quality has slowed down significantly. A D800 will still be a very competitive camera in five years. Much more than five year old DSLRs are today. And D800 have come down also.
It would be a suprise if aperture setting could not be done with the aperture ring when using manual lenes. This is a customable choice on D800 and should be available on Df as well.The foldable non-ai-tad was also available on FE and FM and F2 bodies. Nikkormat EL, I am not sure, likely, but need to check.
molnarcs: This forum has become unreadable. It's basically a troll fest, with overwhelming negativity. Any attempt at intelligent discussion is drowned in the noise. There is a more intelligent discussion of the new Nikon at Canonrumors (!) than here.
I wish dpreview had a feature where the user name could link to a portfolio. At least we could see who are actually photographers and who are just coach photographers - looks like the majority are the latter :-/
Rob Sims and harold1968:M4/3 have a limited narrow view, that's why they don't think wide enough:)
kevin_r: The fact that this camera is able to use all the glass from the past 50 years is a sure indication of how Nikon has ripped off its userbase.
They could have made it such that ALL NIKON AF cameras made up to now be able to use the older glass, but they chose to force their supporters to buy new lenses - if this is not greed then I don't know what is.
Non-ai-lenses can not be used on AF- and DSLR-bodies. I have always regretted that Nikon did not continue the non-ai-tad, that you could fold away like on FE, FM and F3, and F4.Only advantage, they were so cheap to buy recently! :)
PaulJB Photo: $2800 just because it looks like cameras I owned 30 years ago? No thank you. The only things that will sell this "new" product are the poor construction quality of the D600 series and the overpricing of Nikon's other full-frame DSLR's.
I agree strongly with everyone saying upgrade the D300 to full-frame, 24+ MP, 25,000+ ISO, with "built-in" WiFi, and sell it for UNDER $2000.
Also, be sure to put in a dual SD card system. Even the cheapest computer manufacturers have abandoned multi-pin connections like that in CF cards. Yet for some reason camera makers keep hanging on to this now antiquated technology.
The fastest cards are still CF! That's why! So this is not antiquated at all. CF is very special technology for those who need speed speed speed.
Cailean Gallimore: Nikon:
'Traditional' DSLRs - very good.
DSLR lenses - very good.
DSLR flash guns - very good.
Everything else - mediocre at best.
D800 and D3x and D4 mediocre? So you think that roughly 50 percent of professional photographers are mediocre? Get real.
Since buying my first D200 and now with D700 and D800 I have always regretted that Nikons DSLR could not mount non-ai-lenses. Very nice that the Df can use them with the non-ai-tad. This is such an easy solution, like on FE, FM and F3 that it is strange it is not anvailable on all DSLRs. I will ask Nikon Service Point, whether my D800 can be adapted with this foldable non-ai-tad.