jaygeephoto: Buy a Pentax WG-3 in black, with or without GPS. It's a great value and doesn't look like a tub toy. You can use it as a general purpose point and shoot and not look foolish. The image quality is outstanding too for a camera of this type.
Do you own it?astonishing compare to what?got TG-2 and curious about WG-3
why not TG-2?
Jefftan: Only TG-2 and WG-3 with F2 lens is worth buying
Anyone buying this camera not prepare to use it indoor? if so would you want ISO 200/400 or ISO 800/1600
So simple. This slow lens waterproof are obsolete and why they still exist is many buying public don't understand lens aperture
I have TG-2 and is definitely much better than my Galaxy smartphone. The only thing I don't know is if WG-3 is better than my TG-2. It seems there is less NR in WG-3 and more detail left but this is only evident at 100%
For normal viewing on screen image is very attractive. In good lighting I can mistaken them to be take by my NEX-5N
If they further improve it to F1.4 than can use up to ISO 400 in low light than it would be perfect
Now still have to use ISO 800 in many scenario and as you know not very good
ISO 400 is the highest tolerable ISO for small sensor
Only TG-2 and WG-3 with F2 lens is worth buying
Pentax WG-3 become Ricoh WG-4?
Jefftan: "The big unknown right now is image quality - the 70D uses a 20.2MP sensor but the image is formed from 40.3M photodiodes, which is a lot to fit onto an APS-C chip."
not just noise, what about diffraction
diffraction start at F5.7
stupid idea from Canon
"The big unknown right now is image quality - the 70D uses a 20.2MP sensor but the image is formed from 40.3M photodiodes, which is a lot to fit onto an APS-C chip."
Jefftan: Dpreview staffthis is not a comparison review. no same scene shot with different cameraonly studio shot which for unknown reason TG-2 is not too good contradicting my real world use
in studio shot WG-3 is best
thanks for the reply
Dpreview staffthis is not a comparison review. no same scene shot with different cameraonly studio shot which for unknown reason TG-2 is not too good contradicting my real world use
check out this comparison page
To my surprise the camera with the most detail is Pentax WG-3
I have TG-2 and is generally happy with it
Scanlon: I bought this camera before a snorkeling trip to the Caribbean, thinking that, with the bright lens, it would deliver sharp images. I was wrong, and fortunately, I realized that before I went and returned it, for the Canon G15, which is not an underwater camera and more expensive, for sure, but which produced incredible images throughout our trip, almost on a par with my DSLR. Glad I made the change. Having said this, for years I had the Olympus 850 SW, which was an underwater camera. While I never had the opportunity to use it underwater, it did turn out very sharp images, Unfortunately, it was dropped and the LCD screen broke, necessitating the search for a new camera (for my wife). Needless to say, I was shocked at how soft the images from the TG-2 were.
I have TG-2 and disagree with what you saidfor land photo, the camera has very decent sharpness for any point and shoot camera and exceptional for a waterproof camera
Your comment is misleading for people who might be interested in this camera
that ISO 1600 sample is very good for a small sensor
I would buy a GR or NEX-3N and anyone care about their money should
$750 crazy price for 1 inch sensorHow much bigger is NEX-3N at $450
but IQ must be much bettercan't understand Sony pricing
samples at both ISO 160 and 3200 not impressive at all
ISO 160 sample not much detail. These may be out of camera jpeg, not sure if RAW better
ISO 3200 lots of noise
Anyone know why pair with 16-50mm instead of 18-55mm kit lensIs the 16-50mm worse than 18-55mm?
sarkozy: shutter 1/4000 is to bada shutter 1/8000 or 1/16000 (electronically) could have induced me to buy this camera
if your NEX-5N is with kit lens you have a reason to buyGR lens is much better
May I ask if lens correction is available?Only in the pro version?
yes Vivid, or user defined settings punch the colors, thsat is simply standard on all Ricohs
The GR is made for enthousiasts of perfect pictures, so i'm pleased to see that DPR made the ffrot of including lots of optical graphs in their review, this is pixel peeping at its best to find that last bit of detail.
Thanks for the replyI think muted color is not a big problem if white balance is accurateGR white balance OK? Thanks
Is there an easy way to deal with the muted colorIncrease saturation of jpeg in camera?or use vivid color mode?
Lanski: I like the waterproof roundups. I bought a Canon D10 after reading one a good few years ago and was very pleased with it. I felt they'd made a lot of good choices for a compact and I think I got some good results with it (just the underwater ones: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lancesagar/sets/72157631929724683/).
I have to say that I'm very disappointed with this latest release. Not for the first time, Canon appear to be launching an expensive new product without a satisfactory level of improvement. F3.9 at the wide end is truly shocking. No wonder the images are soft. My D10 was F2.8 and I suspect would still make a better choice.
The D10 wiped the floor with its peers (for underwater use) in its roundup. It won't be the same story for the D20.
I like D10 CCD sensorsadly CCD is dying