still confusing as everas a jpeg shooter out of camera color is very important to meI know these 2 cameras color are different and everyone may have different opinion which one has better color
I hope there are more shooting of the same scene from both camerathis review only has a total of 12 (6 from each camera) I can compare
Jefftan: Hi, R ButlerMay I ask if Active D-Lighting is available in RAW?You have mention "For JPEG shooters in particular, this is a really nice feature to have"
So it is not available in RAW?Thanks.
Thanks R Butler and greggyh for the info
Hi, R ButlerMay I ask if Active D-Lighting is available in RAW?You have mention "For JPEG shooters in particular, this is a really nice feature to have"
for jpeg shooter like me, the "Active D-Lighting" alone should make the decision for meCoolpix A is probably betterhttp://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-coolpix-a/9
I suppose GR pics would look like Active D-Lighting off
Joe Ogiba: I wonder if Sony will come out with the rumored RX10 APS-C fixed lens version between the 1" RX100 and full frame RX1.
No wayIf that RX10 did come, the lens would be much bettereven the recent SEL 20 F2.8 is just an average lens
JEROME NOLAS: Two reviews in one week!!! You are killing me guys...just kidding, that's actually great, so THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
Hi, R ButlerPlease produce more comparison between Nikon Coolpix A and GR in your coming GR reviewboth out of camera jpeg and processed RAW is greatly appreciated
Coolpix A seem to have better white balance for out of camera jpeg in many situation base on my observationIs this correct?
Pleasethe Ricoh GR review is possibly highly anticipated. Many are deciding between these 2 cameras
marike6: Some below were getting on my case for daring to even attempt to understand the reviewer's justifications for bold claims like "the GR is a bit better in every way". Apparently we are supposed to just blindly accept every word written in these reviews like wide eyed sheeple consumers.
The thing is, not one person has been able to explain to me why the Coolpix A Sample Gallery looks so dramatically better than the Ricoh GR Sample Galllery.
I've pre-ordered the Ricoh GR to upgrade my GRD III, but frankly I'd rather have the Coolpix A IQ in the Ricoh GR body.
* Cue the "Markus is a Nikon fanboy jerk" comments from people who seem to spend more time attacking me than they do adding photos to their galleries, entering DPR challenges, or trying to contribute to the discussion in any meaningful way.
Anyone trying to convince others which is better has to be based on factsattacking each other is uselessshow evidence and example why one is better than the other than everyone will benefit
Under "Real-world comparisons" I did find Nikon A better in color and/or white balance than GR in the 3 samples available but1. color is subjective and that is just me2. it may be possible to adjust GR in RAW to match Coolpix A but for out of camera jpeg (I assume those samples are), Coolpix A is better in my eyes
Jefftan: Sony NEX 10-18 F4 225 gramCanon 11-22mm F4-5.6 220 gram
not as wide, not as bright and same weight
What's going on? Is this the best what Canon can do?Can't understand
same weight as NEX 10-18 F5.6 at 35mm !!!!useless in low light the only benefit maybe cheaper, NEX 10-18 is $850
Canon thinking is that mirrorless user are not serious photographer and not willing to spend
Big mistake and they will paid for itin fact I would choose NEX over it just for the NEX 10-18mm alone
WHY ONLY 8 mp and not 13 MP?
Sony NEX 10-18 F4 225 gramCanon 11-22mm F4-5.6 220 gram
just a casual look at the comparison in RAW with the coin on the bottleto meLX7 is the clearest whether this is because of lens or processing I don't know
$650 vs NEX-3N $450 in Amazon
idiot would buy this
no clear benefit
peevee1: The lens is too dark to use indoors, in your hotel room, in a restaurant, in an evening concert... 3 fps only also preclude the use of it for any kind of action shots. And no GPS. And $300 is not even that cheap.
Seriously, do yourself a favor and buy Olympus TG-1, Olympus TG-2 or Pentax WG-3 GPS instead. Don't encourage the companies who make inferior products.
is TG-1 NR a problem?
pretty much give up hope that a truly revolutionary waterproof camera will appear in 2013well maybe next year
but I have been saying this for the past 4 years
"a 16 MP image downsized to 12 MP by PC-level software, will have less noise, more DR, and more resolution than a direct 12 MP capture."
I agree with you on that but because with F2 lens diffraction is less of a problem. If only F3.9 lens than diffraction on 16MP is a big problem
Without any good review to say otherwise, to me still safer to go with TG-2 because TG-1 has a good reputation and also 2nd generation
WG-3 is first generation product, F2 lens and optical image stabilization all first time done. More experimental to me
Jefftan: Fuji is trying to sell to public who don't know the difference between F2 and F3.9Believe it or not there are lots of them, my girlfriend being oneWe dpreview forum people are different (feel special or what?)
I have explain to her F2 mean she can use 2 level (not 2 stop too complicated) lower ISO and the lower ISO the betterbut if she don't know me, she will never know what is F2
This is the problem, ignorant publiconly solution is for people like us who know camera try to educate as many as possible
Basically one really have only 2 choices nowTG-2 or WG-3My pick is TG-2
but some said WG-3 for the supposedly lower NRto me just have more confidence with Olympus sensor (likely Sony) and lens (maker of Zuiko lens) than pentax
In the last generation TG-1 seem to be better than WG-2 (some said otherwise again because of supposedly heavy NR in TG-1)
WG-3 may surprise everyone and be better than TG-2 but I have to buy pretty soon and can't wait for detail review
So my pick now is TG-2
Fuji is trying to sell to public who don't know the difference between F2 and F3.9Believe it or not there are lots of them, my girlfriend being oneWe dpreview forum people are different (feel special or what?)
even if it is the same lens, 12MP still better than 16MPAlso to me I trust Olympus more than PentaxLook at the current state of Pentax compare with Olympus Pan camerayou know what I meanAlso unless WG-3 is different than WG-2, last year TG-1 is better than WG-2 I believe