TJGKG: After all this, the Sony RX-100 still scores higher! Whilst both got a silver award, the Sony got a 78 and the Nikon a 75. Interesting. From the review I would guess the GR is going to score even lower.
I don't even know how they come up with the scorefunny how serious people treat these score
2013 is a milestone in camera historythese 2 camera is probably better than even DSLR with good lensbecause the lens is designed from the ground up to match the sensor
smallest and best IQ APS-C camera, few understand the significance of this development
Justin Francis: The Sony RX100 blows this Nikon away. The Sony has a zoom, the wide end is faster, the DOF is pretty much the same for both cameras which negates the Nikon's larger sensor. For normal use, Sony's IQ matches the Nikon's except upwards of ISO1600. On top of that the Sony is more pocketable. What's the rationale for the Nikon?
Comparing apple to orangeAPS-C sensor can't be compare to 1 inch
Jefftan: still confusing as everas a jpeg shooter out of camera color is very important to meI know these 2 cameras color are different and everyone may have different opinion which one has better color
I hope there are more shooting of the same scene from both camerathis review only has a total of 12 (6 from each camera) I can compare
"why don't you look at the sample yourself and tell us which camera colors you like better"They are not shooting the same scene so not directly comparable
"Most cameras today are more than capable to make most people happy"If you are talking about detail I agree but it is not that simple. I will give you an example I have an E-PL1 an NEX-5N. I don't shoot RAW so only use out of camera jpeg
The white balance of E-PL1 is very unreliable in any artificial lighting and someimes even daylight, produce odd color and it is a pain to correct them with jpeg (almost impossible to me)I also much prefer the color of NEX there is no way you can change the color of E-PL1 jpeg to NEX color
So not as simple as you said. The white balance and color of a camera is different for different cameras so not all cameras today are OK to everyone
Of course one can shoot RAW but that is an added cost and added trouble that not all (including me) will do. Even in RAW I bet different camera has different color and also white balance is determine by camera settings if done in batch mode
still confusing as everas a jpeg shooter out of camera color is very important to meI know these 2 cameras color are different and everyone may have different opinion which one has better color
Jefftan: Hi, R ButlerMay I ask if Active D-Lighting is available in RAW?You have mention "For JPEG shooters in particular, this is a really nice feature to have"
So it is not available in RAW?Thanks.
Thanks R Butler and greggyh for the info
Hi, R ButlerMay I ask if Active D-Lighting is available in RAW?You have mention "For JPEG shooters in particular, this is a really nice feature to have"
for jpeg shooter like me, the "Active D-Lighting" alone should make the decision for meCoolpix A is probably betterhttp://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-coolpix-a/9
I suppose GR pics would look like Active D-Lighting off
Joe Ogiba: I wonder if Sony will come out with the rumored RX10 APS-C fixed lens version between the 1" RX100 and full frame RX1.
No wayIf that RX10 did come, the lens would be much bettereven the recent SEL 20 F2.8 is just an average lens
JEROME NOLAS: Two reviews in one week!!! You are killing me guys...just kidding, that's actually great, so THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
Hi, R ButlerPlease produce more comparison between Nikon Coolpix A and GR in your coming GR reviewboth out of camera jpeg and processed RAW is greatly appreciated
Coolpix A seem to have better white balance for out of camera jpeg in many situation base on my observationIs this correct?
Pleasethe Ricoh GR review is possibly highly anticipated. Many are deciding between these 2 cameras
marike6: Some below were getting on my case for daring to even attempt to understand the reviewer's justifications for bold claims like "the GR is a bit better in every way". Apparently we are supposed to just blindly accept every word written in these reviews like wide eyed sheeple consumers.
The thing is, not one person has been able to explain to me why the Coolpix A Sample Gallery looks so dramatically better than the Ricoh GR Sample Galllery.
I've pre-ordered the Ricoh GR to upgrade my GRD III, but frankly I'd rather have the Coolpix A IQ in the Ricoh GR body.
* Cue the "Markus is a Nikon fanboy jerk" comments from people who seem to spend more time attacking me than they do adding photos to their galleries, entering DPR challenges, or trying to contribute to the discussion in any meaningful way.
Anyone trying to convince others which is better has to be based on factsattacking each other is uselessshow evidence and example why one is better than the other than everyone will benefit
Under "Real-world comparisons" I did find Nikon A better in color and/or white balance than GR in the 3 samples available but1. color is subjective and that is just me2. it may be possible to adjust GR in RAW to match Coolpix A but for out of camera jpeg (I assume those samples are), Coolpix A is better in my eyes
Jefftan: Sony NEX 10-18 F4 225 gramCanon 11-22mm F4-5.6 220 gram
not as wide, not as bright and same weight
What's going on? Is this the best what Canon can do?Can't understand
same weight as NEX 10-18 F5.6 at 35mm !!!!useless in low light the only benefit maybe cheaper, NEX 10-18 is $850
Canon thinking is that mirrorless user are not serious photographer and not willing to spend
Big mistake and they will paid for itin fact I would choose NEX over it just for the NEX 10-18mm alone
WHY ONLY 8 mp and not 13 MP?
Sony NEX 10-18 F4 225 gramCanon 11-22mm F4-5.6 220 gram
just a casual look at the comparison in RAW with the coin on the bottleto meLX7 is the clearest whether this is because of lens or processing I don't know
$650 vs NEX-3N $450 in Amazon
idiot would buy this
no clear benefit
peevee1: The lens is too dark to use indoors, in your hotel room, in a restaurant, in an evening concert... 3 fps only also preclude the use of it for any kind of action shots. And no GPS. And $300 is not even that cheap.
Seriously, do yourself a favor and buy Olympus TG-1, Olympus TG-2 or Pentax WG-3 GPS instead. Don't encourage the companies who make inferior products.
is TG-1 NR a problem?