newe: Corel is a good option....but it is "cloud" as well. You will need to activate it once (you will need some form of connection)...and if Corel goes under or decides to change then you are out of luck for a move to a new machine.
What we need is a reasonably featured package that can do color management with just a serial number-based activation...no internet EVER needed. Not sure who makes that.
It is hard to believe how many are content to require an internet connection to maintain functionality of a product!
1) All that screws up a PC comes from the World Wide Web.2) As a tool, there shouldn't be a requirement to be connected.3) I am forced to be connected (at my expense and inconvenience) once a month or once every 3 months.
My tools don't tell me what to do.If they try, I sell them, throw them away and I would never buy them.
hammerheadfistpunch: I work for a Large corporation and we can afford the CC, but we can't use it because our organization is security sensitive and blocks all cloud access. Nice work Adobe, there are at least 300 users you've just alienated.
hammerheadfistpunch: LOL! These computers NEVER go on the internet.....EVER!!
They are put in service and if they require an update or added functionality, I procure it and it install it from disk or thumbdrive.
This is a part of my job.
If they don't change thier policy, Adobe is dead to me.
You just don't get it do you. In my organization there are PC's hooked to the internet and there are many that are not ever connected. I work for DND currently. When I worked for SDL optics it was the same.
What adobe and many others fail to realize or acknowledge, is that there are many who can't or do not want to connect to the internet or the "cloud". Out of necessity I avoid applications that require a connection for functionality. I often spend time in regions that have satellite reception only.I've used pc's before there was an internet and they worked fine, it's bad enough that you require a power source! More devices including BluRay players and TV's are hooking up to the internet to add functionality and make our lives easier. While this is true to an extent, there are still hands on methods aavailable such as when you upgrade firmware on our cameras. We are heading to a point where we will pay for our complacency and lazyness. You will have to be "plugged in", "subscribed", "maintained", "monitored", and so on. It's like an addiction.
Husaberg Grok: I administer workstations that NEVER touch the world wide web and NEVER will. There are many businesses with the same policy.
We used to use it in our professional grapics department, we are looking for replacement software.
Often, the bigger the company, the tighter the security. There isn't ANYTHING less secure than the internet!
Adam Filipowicz: good luck staying relevant and competitive when clients send you files created in adobe cc, but you cant open it. because you wont invest $360 a year, and folks need to be more open to change and progress. being all grumpy because you admin workstations that never go online.. well.. things need to change.. do you think other software wont eventually require some online connectivity. sure it will.. the next version of windows will prob require a regular or constant internet connection too. things are changing folks..the world is going cloud / subscription..and you can either learn to change or be a dinosaur and be left behind.
Nonsense. There are many reasons not to be connected.
In our business world, the "world wide web" is simply not accessible........period. We are not unique. Our workstations do not need the web to work.
I administer workstations that NEVER touch the world wide web and NEVER will. There are many businesses with the same policy.
Welcome to your nightmare Adobe!I've worked in more than a few places that do not allow their workstations an internet connection, ever!
I currently administer 10 workstations running CS5 and as of this announcement, I am meeting with my end users to seek an alternative.
I work for DND
Bye Bye Adobe.
I'm happy to see the diversification of licencees using the micro4/3 format.This will strengthen the format by providing more choice to the consumer. The openness is part of what drew me to the format.
Mike_PEAT: 2eyesee wrote: "Obviously if you're serious about shallow DOF full-frame is the only way to go,"
No it isn't, guess you never used a medium or large format camera...135/35mm (I REFUSE to say "full frame" since it's not a proper term) format is not the "be all and end all" of photography. Each format is a compromise between benefits and negatives.
My first camera was medium format, I've shot with 135/35mm for 20 years, I've shot with a camera taller than a person that uses upto 24"x36" sheet film, but now my choice for 6 years has been FourThirds, and now it's Micro FourThirds.
Out of all those cameras there's NONE I can say is best, or the only way to go...I can say there's only best for me right now, and right now that's the OM-D!
As for shallow DOF, it's only one factor with photography...but even with my tiny sensor bridge camera I managed to get shallow DOF when I wanted it...it all has to do with your skills and knowledge about photography.
Hold on!!! I could and many here could easily afford a "medium format" digital system.....or 2 or 3. The question is, do I want or need one.
marike6: "Digital SLR Photography" magazine just named the Nikon D800 "Gear of the Year 2012". Out of all the great cameras released in 2012, it's the obvious choice.
"Digital SLR Photography" The magazine title says it all and I think everyone can agree that the D800 is greatest DSLR for 2012.
Calling people who defend a system they love a "fanboy" is getting pretty old.
Insulting people and the systems they like is just weird and immature.
Over the 50+ years that I've enjoyed photography I've enjoyed many fine formats and brands and I've never felt it neccessary to put down or denigrate another enthusiust or their gear. Neither have I been put down in the real world.
Just think about it.
Everdog: Most Micro Four Thirds users are former Canikon, Sony or Pentax DSLR owners.If you watch the M43 forum everyday there is another post from someone making the switch from the larger DSLRs.This really seems to bother the old school guys and we see it here. They get really upset when DPR and LensRentals post test results that prove, " Phase-detection autofocus (even using still targets and center-point only) wasn’t nearly as accurate as contrast detection."
Mamiya6crf: I would have voted RX1 or maybe at the other end the RX100.
I am eagerly waiting for the NEX FF 32MP announcment hopefully at CES becaause I dont think the Nex7m will comparatively pack enough punch even though it is rumored to have a lot of upgrades (Think RX1 with interchangable lenses). :)
2013 is going to be a great year!
Welcome to DPR Mamiya6crf. I had a Mamiya TLR (and a Rollieflex) It was a fine camera!
"So at the end of an incredibly busy year we want to know which cameras stood out for you."
That is the poll question quoted from the original poll.
All the concerned posters, both new and old, should keep that in mind.The poll results may not make sense to some people, the OM-D may have many design flaws, it is clearly not the best photographic tool for the majority of photographers.
It is the camera that "stood out" for the majority of voters in 2012 however.
Why? You can be sure the competition is asking that question. If some of you don't know the answer, it certainly isn't the camera for you.
Time to move on and take some pictures.
LifeIsAVerb: As others have mentioned, these kinds of "best-of" polls are fairly pointless, except, maybe to generate comments on a Web site (1,513 as of now).
"Best" for what? is one obvious question some commenters have raised. How does one compare different types of camera designed for different uses?
And who of the people that "voted" in the "poll" have used more than a handful of the cameras listed—let alone all of them? How can anyone possibly make comparative judgements without having at least some experience with the cameras?
The only real use for these lists, i'd say, is that they help point people in the market toward some starting points for cameras they might want to consider.
Hi Life,I can't address all your questions and comments.
This line quoted from above summarizes the polls purpose I think though."So at the end of an incredibly busy year we want to know which cameras stood out for you."You clearly don't have to own one of the cameras to answer that question.For example my brother voted (for the OM-D EM-5) and owns none of the cameras listed, he has an older Leica digital P&S. The camera stood out to him for many of the reasons already mentioned all over the web by reviewers, magazines and users. The same way we all develop opinions on many things.I hope this cast's some perspective on your questions.
This should boost Olympus sales.
Everdog: For those who have not caught on, there are a bunch of Sony and Nikon fans creating new IDs solely to post in this one comment section and bash the winner. lpv and player2 are the latest.
For Bob, you could only vote once....except for lpv and player2, they can vote with their multiple IDs. :)
@lpv ... I agree there is some great old Nikon (and Canon FD) glass out there.
I've been really enjoying them on my OM-D. The great OIS system really helps me get great hand-held results.
It's like re-connecting with an old friend!
designprof: I am not surprised that this camera won.It just is a great camera.Its size and portability.The image quality and low light sensitivity is superb but not spectacular.The fact the camera and its kit lens is weather proof!The image stabilization is amazing.The kit lens 12-50mm zoom has a motorized zoom feature (hello!)The great lenses that are available for the camera are numerous.The accessories are also great.I was an Olympus OM-1 user since the mid '70 through to 2000.I am biased.I took the camera on a week's vacation to Spain along with a Sony compact.It wasn't the camera that took great photos. Its the photographer.I strongly believe you can take good photos with a pin hole camera if one had too.We should not place too much weight on this nomination but I still thinkthe winning camera is worthy of its distinction as a great camera.
I agree that we aren't there yet, but manufacturers are making some good progress and enthusiasts are enjoying some great products.