marike6: Superb IQ. What's incredible is that at ISO 6400, the X-Pro1 is beating all of the other 3 cameras, including the 5D III. An amazing achievement for an APS-C sized sensor. In a way, I think it deserves Gold just beating the FFs in low-light raw performance.
It's about time we gave kudos to Fuji for innovating on the IQ front, and for making a photographers camera, with a compelling lens roadmap.
You simply need to download the raw files from the other cameras and apply noise reduction. What you'll find is that the X-Pro1 isn't beating anything at all, in fact in under performs. There's inherent noise reduction occurring in the conversion of the raw image for the X-Pro1.
The sampling required to reconstruct images from the X-Pro1 sensor results in inherent noise reduction. If you download the RAW files for comparison cameras, pull them into Lightroom, apply some noise reduction, what you'll find is that you'll get less noise and better retention of detail from a wide variety of cameras than the X-Pro1. What we are seeing is simply a limitation of the current comparison process, where one camera or the raw conversion (e.g. the X-Pro1) incorporates noise reduction.
Hopefully this is the start of a trend!
Glad i didn't buy a D800!
fooddudeone: Just got mine yesterday.... Love it!
3200 iso Videos are soo clean! Cleaner than my old 5N And 5D2!!!
And of course, IBIS. Makes videos look like they were shot on a tripod, fluid head or shoulder-rig. No more need to lug around big gear for casual shooting and no more shaky footage! Awesomeness!
So far... my only gripe... no magnify in Video mode; not even with MF assist nor if setting Fn2 to muti-function" (which includes Magnify in its' included 4 quick-chose-options). I guess I can switch from still modes to video modes quickly though. Also noticed a small bug. If your Video-mode Exp setting is set to M, it [I]Has[/I] to be in video-mode. Ie: if you hit the video-record button in m/s/a/p, even if video-mode exp. setting in the menu is set to M, it will record in Auto-Exp.
Ah yes, that's right -- main shutter button does video. Great thing is, video still works (and the way you want it to) and you get to use the record button for something useful.
@fooddudeone. Easy fix: reassign the video record button to do something useful, like change ISO. Then the only way you can start video recording is to set the mode dial to Video, where the record button works like it should for video (i.e. it doesn't do ISO.)
supeyugin1: Sony 16-50/2.8 has the same equivalent focal length, same aperture and better DOF, and costs $620. It can be also used on NEX via adapter. Panasonic wants to charge twice. They are out of their mind! The rough equivalent of this lens in terms of production costs is $200.
IS & weather sealing add to the cost of production of the Panasonic lens. Faster focus and closer focusing probably also contribute to the higher cost of production of the Panasonic lens.
Kjeld Olesen: Being a user of both a m43 system and a 24x36 mm system, I'd say this is certainly a nice lens and an improvement to the m43 lens array, but surely there will always be reason for m43 users to "envy full frame L glass" - at least until they bring out a 12-35 f/1.4 lens - and if they do, then what will be the point of using m43 anyways? It would likely be larger than a "full frame" 24-70 f/2.8.So lets enjoy what m43 offers in terms of small size and not pretend that it is a replacement for larger apperture lenses.
Having previously owned a mountain of L glass, it's because there are massive size and weight advantages to m43 glass.
And it's because the fast primes are image stabilised (on many bodies), so there's another size and weight advantage of not having to carry a tripod in many lower shutter speed situations.
If m43 glass was simply f/2.8 primes and f3.5-5.6 zooms, then the size and weight advantage would mean much less. But m43 lenses include many fast primes and a number of constant aperture zooms.
If one believes size and wight and image stabilised primes mean nothing, then there's nothing to envy in m43 that isn't available in FF.
You'd think FF owners would "envy m43 glass": constant aperture zooms, affordable & available f/0.95 primes, and huge size and weight advantages.
Doesn't apply similarly to the OM-D E-M5. There is no measurable loss at f/2.0, only 0.12 EV at f/1.4 and a minimal 0.26 EV at f/0.95, which can be easily measured with the Voigtlander 25mm f/0.95.
This is another area where m43 punches above its weight.
Gully Foyle: This release exposes even more Sony's lack of lenses for its NEXs.
Look at the size of Canon's constant aperture 17-55mm f/2.8 (27-88mm EFL) for APS-C and you'll get an idea of why Sony isn't making such a lens for NEX. Canon's constant aperture zoom is more than twice the size and weight of this lens. APS-C sensors are too large for compact systems, the lenses are too big or too slow.
Great to see it has a metal body, manual zoom ring, and weather sealing.
Spectacle99: Another great review, and all kinds of great responses here. I still have two questions, though. First one in this post, second to follow:
1) Buffer size/continuous performance: how precisely does the camera perform in continuous shooting mode? I understand the details about max 9 fps, and only up to 4 fps for continuous autofocus. But HOW MANY shots can you take in these modes before the camera slows down? And this is crucial: does it just SLOW DOWN, or does it STOP altogether and then you have to wait for all of the photos to save on the card before you can resume shooting?
Shooting raw it just slows down to about 1 fps and continues taking photos at this rate. If you take your finger off the shutter for a couple of seconds while the buffer is draining, then you'll get another few shots at 4 fps, before it goes back to about 1 fps.
Spectacle99: My second question:
2) Bokeh and shallow depth of field: I am considering getting this camera instead of an enthusiast DSLR, given its small size. But the one thing that concerns me is the sensor size here. I've seen all of the details and examples above, and it is clear that the OM-D does just as well as or better than its mirrorless and APS-C rivals all the way up through high ISOs. But what about depth of field? Amongst many other things, I want to be able to shoot nice flower and insect macros with a very shallow DOF, and a smooth, creamy bokeh background. Same thing, but less extreme, with portraits. How possible is this with this camera? And do you have any lens suggestions?
Enthusiast DSLR's (with APS-C sensors) struggle a bit in the lens department, so there's no obvious choice that's going to get you appreciably more bokeh than is available with the OM-D E-M5 (Panasonic 25mm f/1.4, Olympus 45mm f/1.8 and soon to be released Olympus 75mm f/1.7). You'll be able to slightly better the bokeh at some focal lengths with an APS-C camera, but not at others. And you'll end up carrying full-frame lenses (which are unnecessarily heavy and expensive) because of the lack of bright APS-C specific lenses...
ybizzle: Great effort but with less expensive models like the Sony NEX-5N, Samsung NX-20, and Pentax K-01, it will harder to justify this more expensive model from Oly. Not to mention that all these have a 50% larger sensor to boot and great image quality.
APS-C cameras don't offer the range of small, fast primes that work with the E-M5. The lenses for APS-C cameras are generally considerably larger (much larger in the case of NEX) for equally bright primes. But more often than not, APS-C systems provide only slower lenses. In fact, if you look at fast (faster than f/2.8) lenses for APS-C cameras from Canon, Nikon and Sony NEX and exclude the heavier and bulkier than needed full-frame lenses, you find: Canon: 0 Nikon: 1 (35mm f/1.8) Sony NEX: 2 (24mm f/1.8, 50mm f/1.8) E-M5: 6+1 (12mm f/2.0, 17.5mm f0.95, 20mm f/1.7, 25mm f/1.4, 25mm f/0.95, 45mm f/1.8, 75mm f/1.7 announced)
But even more than the availability of fast lenses, is their size; the lenses for the OM-D are mostly very small and many of them of superb optical quality.
steveh0607: How about a set of fast primes?! I'm going to get this camera in due time but Olympus needs to flesh out the m43 lens lineup.
@mister_roboto: Panasonic have shown 12-35mm and 35-100mm f/2.8 X-grade lenses (which will be weather sealed) with an indication they will be available later this year.
PatMann: This looks like an impressive and very usable little camera for the enthusiast, and a big boost in performance for Olympus, which has been stuck in 2007 for their sensor, which is a long time now in digital years.
Lenses are the still key for me. There seems to be a much better range of primes for this system than for Sony NEX with the Olympus 12 and 45 and Panasonic 25mm and 45mm macro, and an ultrawide zoom, but no fast (or even f/4) midrange or short tele zooms to complete the range, so I'd call it almost a system. "With adapter" doesn't count in my book - that's two more very susceptible points of failure.
Once a faster midrange and a faster short tele zoom lens are available for MFT, watch out Nikon and Canon.
Panasonic has displayed 12-35mm and 35-100mm (24-70mm, 70-200mm equiv.) f/2.8 X-grade "concept" lenses, with a suggestion they are to appear later this year. The lenses both used 58mm filters, so promise to be massively smaller than their FF (and APS-C) counterparts.
Note also that panasonic has said all future X-grade lenses will be weather-sealed.
filcon: I must admit, that when I first saw the quality of the jpeg out of this new baby, I was blowen away by the way the noise has been dealt with on this 43 sensor...well done Olympus! However, on closer inspection, the noise fix comes at a price of blurring fine detail. I would feel happy printing a reasonably large print up to 3200 and at 6400 would have to take the print size down.
I see that some are intent on selling their APS-C cameras and going all the way with the E-M5!! That would be a retrograde step of throwing the baby out with the bathwater!! I compared the 3200 jpeg file download from both the E-M5 and the D7000, and the noise was better in the E-M5 than the Nikon, but the detail due to blurring was not up to scratch in the E-M5 file. Note, the D7000 file was not a real issue with noise, it just had a more film like look to it. Be carefull before you make any rash moves and turn a corner you can't retreat from.
Spoken by an old Olympus dog from way back. Love the E-M5
Number of lenses faster than f2.8 for APS-C and M43 cameras*:
Nikon: 1 (52mm equiv. f1.8) NOT Image Stabilized
Sony NEX: 1 (75mm equiv f1.8) Image Stabilized
M4/3: 7 (24mm equiv f2.0, 35mm equiv 0.95, 40mm equiv f1.7, 50mm equiv f1.4, 50mm equiv f0.95, 90mm equiv f1.8, 150mm equiv f1.7) All lenses stabilised using IBIS.
It's not necessary to use as high ISO with fast, image stabilised systems. Cameras are not just sensors.
* excludes use of heavier, bulkier full frame lenses (approx. 4 times the volume (or more) of M43s lenses) Note that even resorting to full frame lenses will not find a 24mm equiv f2.0 or faster for your APS-C camera.
I should add that the faster primes available for this system (particularly at normal and wide-angle) combined with an image stabilisation system that works with these primes, means that in many situations you can use much lower ISO settings than with an APS-C body from Sony or Nikon or Canon. You can't compare ISO 6400 with ISO 6400 when one camera has faster lenses and image stabilisation and draw any sort of conclusion about which is best for "most" situations.
The reason for dropping APS-C cameras in favour of the E-M5 isn't to get the best sensor for the first half of 2012, but to get a camera that has a decent sensor, that's 1/2 the size and weight; a camera with nice fast primes (really unavailable for APS-C), a camera that is weather sealed, and a camera with a good flash system. That is, a much smaller camera with few limitations and huge advantages in portability.
As a complete system, the E-M5 looks amazing. It's not just the sensor.