Using RAW at the lowest ISO and the Panasonic clearly shows more detail than the Sony.
coroander: Let's look at apples and apples, since the article provides so many incomparable numbers. income from sales of ILCs:Canon -1.7%Nikon -6%Fuji (unknown, ILCs not reported separately)Olympus +5%
It's quite possible (even likely) mirrorless sales income has increased over the past 12 months, while income from DSLRs has decreased.
I'm sure Nikon and Canon mirrorless sales are disappointing and amount to effectively zero of their sales income. What we see is that Nikon and Canon DSLR sales income declined while Olympus mirrorless sales income increased. Olympus sales income is not small either, it's about 37% of Nikon's.
Let's look at apples and apples, since the article provides so many incomparable numbers. income from sales of ILCs:Canon -1.7%Nikon -6%Fuji (unknown, ILCs not reported separately)Olympus +5%
Rupert Brun: Yes, but is the viewfinder any good? that on the GH3 verges on unusable with blurry corners, dreadful colours and coating that rubs off. If they haven't fixed that it will be no use to anybody.
It's utter nonsense to suggest that manual focus can only be achieved if the viewfinder displays every pixel available in the final image.
Video Resolutions in the Specifications is missing 4096 x 2160 (24p).
Chad Hogan: I'm on the hunt for a new camera and weighing up my options just now.. I'm fairly new to the game though and a bit naive in all honesty! Is the EM5 much better than the Canon EOS 7D as this comparison...
suggests? What features make this camera great and what one would you go for?
I sold my 7D and lots of expensive L glass after buying the E-M5. The E-M5 is much smaller, it's images are sharper (no anti-aliasing filter), while the 7D has a very strong anti-aliasing filter (much stronger than any of the other Canon cameras with 18MP sensors) and the E-M5 has more dynamic range. It's also not nearly as prone to banding as the 7D is when pulling details from shadows. The 7D is a bit more ergonomic, but it's much larger, and it's lenses are significantly larger. And the reason i sold it is because it's so heavy. The E-M5 is very fast focusing, but for indoor sports (subjects moving towards or away from the camera) the 7D wins. Both cameras are metal bodied and weather sealed. Both have 4 channel, 3 group remote flash triggering. The E-M5 also has tilt screen and touch screen (touch point to focus and take image.)
thx1138: Is this replacing the E-M5 or will we see a successor to that camera as well at some point?
Not a replacement for the E-M5, which will continue to be produced. Olympus said when the E-M5 was announced that it would be the middle of a line of OM-Ds, we're just now seeing the full line.
oluv: Actually the same size as E-M5. No near as small as has been suggested by the first rumored comparison images.
7mm shorter, 3mm narrower, 29g lighter. Not tiny, but a slightly smaller, small camera for sure.
Just Ed: There are a lot of small APS-C cameras out there. Even some compact lenses to go with them.
Personally, I would not buy into 4/3'rds at this point in time. jmo
APS-C fails in the lens department. There's a lack of choice from every manufacturer. Kit lenses there are plenty, but nice primes and constant aperture zooms are lacking across all manufacturers. For Canon and Nikon you constantly have to resort to full frame glass, particularly at the wide end and you end up with strange focal lengths and larger than needed lenses. For NEX it's adapted lenses because of the lack of choice and now that Sony's gone full frame all those holes in the APS-C lens line are likely never to get filled. Fuji has nice lenses, but again not many. It's hard to see that APS-C has any future at all (except as the nichest of players), too big to be small, and not supported by a decent stable of lenses.
.Just upgrading from the E-M5 after purchasing a couple of the 4/3 lenses off eBay before this camera was released. Opens up a whole new world of great lenses.
Nice to see a camera that opens up great performance with some missing lenses in the micro four thirds lineup. Lenses like the superb 150mm (300mm equiv.) f/2.0. That and the 6 or 7 extra controls (providing direct access to everthing) over the E-M5 should make this one great camera.
plasnu: Many of the negative comments here are probably from CANIKON users who concern the future of DSLR.
Cross type PDAF sensors are useful when you are using a single PDAF point on a camera with only 9 or 18 or 45 PD sensors which are much larger than a single-pixel PD sensor. The OM-D doesn't have just 9 or 45 PD sensors it has 1 million. And so uses thousands or 10s of thousands of PD sensors to autofocus on a single point as opposed to 1. In addition it also combines the highly accurate CDAF system.
At $1400 it's still the only camera under $1500 with a 100% 0.74x viewfinder, 50+ RAW image buffer, 1/8000 shutter, 10fps, image stabilisation that works with all lenses and a 1/320 sync speed. And it's the smallest camera with all these features.
Reactive: Looking at the specs and prices, this looks like a direct competitor to the Canon EOS 70D. Is there some killer feature that would make a buyer choose the Olympus over the Canon (or vice versa)? A side by side list would be very useful.
The killer features are many, but two killer features are 5-axis image stabilisation that works with all lenses (not just OIS on canon lenses that is only available on some of their lenses). The Olympus image stabilisation is also amazing on video. The other killer feature is weight and size -- there are many here who abandoned DSLRs for m43 for a superb system that is much lighter and smaller and just as (or more) capable.
Fortunately those users worried about high price can get the superb E-M5. But for those who need a large buffer (50+ RAW), 1/8000th shutter, 0.74x 100% viewfinder, improved support for 43 lenses, and direct controls for practically everything, not to mention 1/320th sync speed, 10 fps and improved continuous autofocus the E-M1 is available. The E-M1 isn't a replacement for the E-M5 -- they are different product lines in the same excellent m43 system.
rxbot: We all know it is a good camera. The ? is is it a $550 better than E- M5 camera. For those that have the money don't rush into buying yet. In Oct. we should see full frame mirrorless NEX 7 size ilc camera for about $2000, hoping it comes with EVF but perhaps an option.
Unfortunately the NEX system doesn't have many quality lenses, and those that are quality are just plain massive. It's the nonsense of NEX -- tiny bodies matched with large lenses (or small aperture lenses). Just wait for the FF NEX -- with a body double the price and even larger lenses. Unlikely that NEX will ever pick up enough users to support the range of lenses that m43 offers now.
justmeMN: Hmmm. AF speed not as good as a DSLR. Sensor not as good as a DSLR. Priced higher than many DSLRs...
AF speed depends on the lens, like any camera. But with many m43 lenses AF speed exceeds that of many DSLRs. And CDAF is exceptionally accurate.
Certainly the E-M1 will have a sensor with better dynamic range than the recently announced Canon 70D (since the E-M5 already does this)...
Interestingness: Jumped right to page 9 and checked out image quality. Did you all see the 3200 ISO JPEG's? That would make me stop shooting RAW - WOW!
Now change it to RAW and look around - this holds it own against everything except the Canon 5D3 all the way up from there (why no ISO 6400?).
Either this or the GX7 is going to be my next camera. Availability and street price will be the deciding factors. The Olympus has the edge in IQ and in body IS - the GX7 the viewfinder. Decisions, decisions...
The future of APS-C cannot be determined by looking at present sales. It's about investment in the format. Nikon and Canon (with only a handful of exceptions) have only produced cheap kit lenses specifically for APS-C. Sony only makes four lenses for NEX that are f/2.8 or faster. The appearance of a FF NEX may well spell the end of future investment in quality APS-C NEX lenses.
The Fuji is the pixel peepers noise minimising camera. The reason for this is that the demosaicing of RAW in the Fuji results in inherent noise reduction which cannot be turned off, and therefore shows less grain. There's very little difference in IQ when NR is added to the RAW of the OM-D.
Take a look at Sony's NEX-6 compared to the E-M5 on DxoMark sometime. Even though the NEX-6 was introduced about a year after the E-M5, noise and DR are essentially the same from ISO 200 and up. APS-C is a dying format, stuck between FF and the better balance of lens size vs camera body of m43 (not to mention the superior choice of lenses for m43 over any native APS-C system.)
Just Posted: @coroander continued...
EM-5 IS a Great camera, but its mainly you zealots trying to make it more than it is and continue to create controversy by posting so much pure nonsense. Just read thru all the hype...
"" However, if you look at Flickr stats, you'll see the OM-D is being used more than the NEX7, or, in fact, any other Sony camera."
I would think Getty is a better source to compare - Photographers, - users, but I dont think the Em5 even meets the requirments (?) or just hardly no one uses it proffesionaly to take pictures that are sold there because I couldn't find it on the list to compare.
In fact on Flicker there are more than twice the number of Nex camera users, or can only compare the Nex7? Better go add them up.
Do you want to even compare just APS-C from Sony to all 43 sensors on flicker? LOL!
Total use? iIs >Canon, NIkon, Apple , Sony then Panosonic with Oly coming after that. And you can extrapulate the detail yourself.
The OM-D is the most used mirrorless IL camera on Flickr.
In terms of systems, M43 has nearly double the daily number of users as NEX on Flickr:Micro Four Thirds: 1771 (Olympus 982 + Panasonic 789)Sony NEX: 933
That's not hype, just facts.
Just Posted: @coroander
"There are no reliable sources for global sales figures of cameras. However, if you look at Flickr stats, you'll see the OM-D is being used more than the NEX7, or, in fact, any other Sony camera. On Flickr, the OM-D is being used more than any other mirrorless interchangable-lens camera from any manufacturer. And it's only been available for 8 months."
Flicker? Wow, 43 and P&S pics among iphones and..nice try, Try Getty where real pictures are actually baught and sold and see how many turn up, do let us know.
Sales? You can't find reliable sources? AMazon is the worlds largest online seller of cameras and enough has been posted to show it sure an't no Em-5.
Amazon doesn't consolidate camera kits by body, so where a camera has multiple kits it creates distortions: in the case of the OM-D: silver body only, black body only, silver kit with 14-42mm, black kit with 14-42mm, silver kit with 12-50mm, black kit with 12-50mm are all separate cameras. In addition there may be kits organised in different ways that are counted separately.
If there was only one desirable kit, then it wouldn't matter so much, but unfortunately all these kits and body only options are frequently purchased. Amazon doesn't give sales numbers so there is no way to get total sales of cameras offered in multiple colours/kits from Amazon data.
As i said, on this site, the Olympus OM-D is the highest ranked camera released in 2012 in terms of the number of images uploaded to Galleries or entered in Challenges. And we see the OM-D leads in the number of people uploading images daily (from mirrorless, interchangeable-lens cameras) to Flickr.