A 79$ upgrade price is most unfortunate considering what you actually get and that Adobe never patches the bugs in PE they just release a new version for 79$..... I normally wait a few iterations and get it on special. An upgrade from 9 or 10 should be much cheaper ..... and a lot of the time the new stuff doesn't work well.
Very Impressive phone .... when my S3 dies I have another option besides Samsung now.
If the camera is good this would be a very flexible phone because is isn't crippled with respect to storage as it has microSD.
64gb of microSD means most of us can carry our entire music collections on the road without ever syncing again so it also makes the perfect audio player. Files also transfer orders of magnitude faster when you plug the card directly into a computer VS using USB based MTP.
If it isn't wildly overpriced this phone should do very well.
Red shadow noise with low contrast detail please
For a rugged camera the LCD seems terribly exposed with no cover. One scrape against a rock and the rugged camera would be near unusable ...
Nice looking camera ...... but not 1000$ nice
zaurus: All compact cameras just got killed.
I have an S3 and I believe it has a dual core and I have yet ti find anything that slows it down, so the number of cores isn't really of that much importance until software catches up.
I wonder why Samsung would put such a low rez screen in the Zoom assuming you are correct .... that would be sad ... we will see.
As for looks, I have an S3 and I think it looks just fine for a phone and this one looks not all that different. If you are so hooked on looks perhaps you should buy the new Hass and make your statement ;)
Agreed about the lens being too slow but looks like a very interesting camera/phone:
1) It has a decent camera that's always with you because your cell is always with you
2) The Galaxy S3 and S4 have a great audio system and the ability to put in a 64GB microSD card == ~100GB == it is an IPOD killer in its own right but when you factor that its always with you because your cell is always with you, there really is no comparison. (You do have to buy good headphones as the Samsung ones aren't really good enough)
Taken together I would say this could be quite a product (if the camera lives up to the specs) == pretty much everyone else will be playing catch up.
I wonder how much carriers are going to charge for it? 10,000$ and your first born? They are going to gouge for sure.
Where is the S3 version?
As a side note the value of money is being quite deliberately destroyed and relatively soon everybody will be working for free.
The power structure is changing. It used to be that if you could make money you could have a good life. In the "everything for free model " somebody decides whether you have a good life. This is a inevitable consequence of fewer and fewer people controlling more and more and our shift to a service economy where eventually every service will be saturated and the value of work devalued to a bare minimum.
Career opportunity and not money will be the prime determinant of success by the next or next next generation.
I was an avid HTC user and would love to keep buying them BUT microSD is simply a must have feature and HTC no long supports it.
If you use your phone for music or as a picture mobile viewer for a large picture library nothing can currently replace or even remotely compete with microSD. Otherwise microSD is pretty optional.
The sad truth is that yet another stable family oriented occupation is being replaced by basically nothing because of greed on both sides of the fence. Newspaper owners want work for free and people want the news for free. A perfect death spiral evident in almost every aspect of society.
For many people like myself, newspapers have become as dispensable as the professional photographers are to the newspaper's managers.
There is a trust disconnect between much of the public and newpapers and everyone knows that pictures and video can be doctored cheaply and easily.
The photographers are only the first to go because they are the most defenseless. Any informational medium that relies solely on advertising is a compromised medium because there is a huge trust disconnect. I used to pay for a newspaper because I believed in them as an organization. I no longer do as I feel that things that need reporting are not being reported.
The whole newspaper model has been dead for quite some time. The only sources of info I still have some interest in is semi-public sites where many many real people can post their views in a semi-moderated manner. IMDB is one of the more interesting examples but slowly that is being corrupted too.
Jostian: rating the S4's LED flash better than a Xenon (Nokia 808)... mmm, what a joke, DxO ???
Brightness does not necessarily a good flash make ...
Looks like a great camera ... love my EPL2.
I don't think that it is such a problem not having a EVF. The problem is that the add on EVF costs as much as a decent camera ..... it is gouging.
With the EPL2 I sometimes miss the EVF but not enough to buy at that price.
HTC Phones do have their charms, and I really do like the build quality of the HTC One S (which I have).
The downside of HTC is that like Apple they cripple their phones with no microSD and measly storage capacities like 16GB (or 32 if you are lucky).
Also that cheap build quality you complain about Samsung has an advantage. Heavy metal phones tend to self destruct when dropped where plasticy phone bounce. You can by a huge case to protect your beautiful metal and glass phone, but then you see the same plasticy look as you would with a Samsung or nexus.
I have a One S but learned ....
No expandable memory ...... no buy (especially for such a music oriented phone)
Yes I want all my music with me .... do you really like syncing tracks? A 32 memory card isn't rocket science, it is cheap 2 year old tech as I used one in my old HTC Desire Z
After messing about with Epson products which produced excellent results but cost a fortune to run and eventually clogged, I abandoned printing photos all together.
Home ink jet printers make no sense whatsoever unless you are printing at least a couple per day. They suck ink from the tiny cartridges that cost a fortune and they clog if you don't use them often.
It is cheaper to use an dedicated LCD or just get them printed.
It may indeed be possible to make a viable ink jet but no companies are willing to do it. I have seen a hacked Epson R200 with huge external ink reservoirs that is economically viable BUT unless you print a couple a day the jets clog and the printer is toast.
Has promise and the perspective shift is real.... but the actual shift is quite limited
Why did Samsung gut the cell phone subsystem out of this camera?
The best camera is often the one you have with you, and just about everyone carries a cell these days.
Pinhole phone cameras are great, but this one might be able to do indoor shooting under natural light.
Considering that the Canon G15 has such a tiny sensor, I am surprised that the images at low ISO are so good. I compared the images between the G15 and the Oly EPL2, which I have, and for the most part the images from the G15 were sharper(almost oversharpened) but had less detail, more noise, and some natural looking gradients BUT there wasn't a whole lot of difference.
I am guessing where the G15 would fall down would be under low light shooting, but the fast lens may help a little. I am not sure whether ISO800 and the 1.8 lens would be good enough to reliably take indoor photos of people without a flash without getting grainy blurry unpleasant pictures