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pictureAngst: I'm hoping the MFT version uses different optics to this adapter, so that the focal length is retained on the smaller MFT sensor - i.e. a FF 50mm provides more or less the same angle of view on an MFT camera. Given the different aspect ratios (3:2 versus 4:3) I guess in practice this would actually mean an equivalent vertical focal length and some cropping to the horizontal focal length, but I'm not sure.
IMO the biggest advantage of this adaptor isn't the increased light gathering (although that's very nice), it's the retained shallow depth of field. There's some really nice older fast lenses out there (Nikon 50mm f1.2 AIS, Nikon 105mm f2.5 AIS, etc.) that are, for their performance, quite light and small, and very affordable.
I suspect though that the demands on the optics to shrink the image to such a degree might significantly increase the corner falloff and CA evident in the APS-C version, to an extent where it can be seen in real world images.
Time will tell.
Yes - a speed booster specially for FF on mFT would be VERY nice.
With 0.5 reduction (instead of 0.7). And on the other hand with 2 f-stops more light and DOF (instead of 1 f-stop).
A dream?
joepix: Hmm.. how many stops could be gained if they made one of these to convert medium format lenses to Micro 4/3s or even to use medium format on full frame? I'd love to use my old Hassy lenses again.
I hope they can make a version with a higher "compression" of 0.5 (instead of 0.7) and with gain of 2 stops (instead of 1). This would fit the "shrink" ratio of mFT to FX.
I would love to put my old nikkors on my pana GH without any crop factor - 1.4/35 would become 0.7/35 equivalent ... sounds crazy, ridicoulos FOV, ND filter are needed...
There are tele converters 1.4x and 2.0x.
What about a booster 0.5x - for FX lenses on mFT?
Peter Heckert2: Set a magnifying lens in front of the sensor, and you get a bigger sensor.
Set a stray lens in front of the sensor and you get a smaller sensor.
Its that easy ;-)
Ok it is not so easy to maintain the focus distances, but it is possible.
Hopefully the ridiculous urban legend about sensor size and DOF will die now.
Peter
Yes ist seems to be so easy - but vice versa:
- stray lens in a conventional tele-converter
- magnifying lens in the speed booster
Or did I get it wrong?
Richard Thornton: Well, the $179 lens shade price may be justified by the cutouts to allow unubstructed looking through the viewfinder. But wait, there IS no viewfinder! And the add on sits so high it should clear any obstruction.
Is it made of gold? Cutouts should make it cheaper...this price is ridiculous even for leica fans...
The studio test sample shows a green cast at all iso's and at iso 1600 additionally a magenta cast at the right side.
What about this, is it no "con"?? Does anybody see it?
And regarding the "pro": "Excellent video quality (and sound)" - agreed for the quality of image and sound - but I am missing a good video stabilisation while moving (like sony's "active steadyshot")! Also the AF and zooming in video could be smoother.
I am willing to order a pureview (having a 5800 and being happy with symbian + nokia navigation) , but...see above...
"to give an impression of what rich recording does for audio"
http://www.symbiantweet.com/weekend-watch-nokia-808-pureview-low-light-loud-noise-video-sample-street-dance
Look and hear minute 2:00, there's a comparison with a "normal" smartphone...
I still can't believe the sound quality coming out of this small device:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRCl7I_XFRM
It would be the definite camera gear for concerts - if it only had better video stabilisation .. nokia please..
zoranT: Actually, video IQ is not the 808s strength, it is rather average there. It s strength ist still image photography (easily comparable to enthusiast/prosumer compact cameras) and sound recording. There is nothing comparable out there in that regard, a quantum leap as the N8 has been. Still today, the N8 remains one of the best camera phones, topped only by the 808.
Sound is the best I ever heard from such a device.
Still image the best I ever seen.
But for video it definiteky needs a better stabilisatioon
TrojMacReady: For those who complain about missing vocals, here's a more vocal example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OB0n-xkvY7A#!
Sound quality is incredible!
Zafar Kazmi: col·lage
[kuh-lahzh, koh-] Show IPA noun, verb, col·laged, col·lag·ing.
noun
1.
a technique of composing a work of art by pasting on a single surface various materials not normally associated with one another, as newspaper clippings, parts of photographs, theater tickets, and fragments of an envelope.
What is described here is image stitching/panorama, not collage.
@blackzero
I have just tried picasa for collaging. Seems to be easy arranging and rotating. But I see no option for sizing!?
Zafar Kazmi: col·lage
[kuh-lahzh, koh-] Show IPA noun, verb, col·laged, col·lag·ing.
noun
1.
a technique of composing a work of art by pasting on a single surface various materials not normally associated with one another, as newspaper clippings, parts of photographs, theater tickets, and fragments of an envelope.
What is described here is image stitching/panorama, not collage.
It is not about definitions, it is about the" look" and an appropriate description for it.
Yes it is the 21st century - but I want to have this imperfection and look of a pin board for this special purpose.
But what about the software (arranging, rotating, sizing)? PS CS, elements or free editor?
Zafar Kazmi: col·lage
[kuh-lahzh, koh-] Show IPA noun, verb, col·laged, col·lag·ing.
noun
1.
a technique of composing a work of art by pasting on a single surface various materials not normally associated with one another, as newspaper clippings, parts of photographs, theater tickets, and fragments of an envelope.
What is described here is image stitching/panorama, not collage.
True these are different thhings. Someone who wants to make collages doesn't stitch.
Which version of photoshop elemants is recommended? CS is much too expensive for me..
...or is there other software (perhaps free) which can do easily "collaging"? With easy operation of the main thing: arranging sizing and rotating the imageges
A very good article and so are the collages, thank you.
I am a fan of hockney for a long time.
What version of photoshop is needed?
Are there other (perhaps free) editors, which can do this?
plasnu: I rather want a Damien Hirst version.
I would prefer a pinkenta model:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qik-N21nYN8
The nókia seems to have many settings for the camera.
I would like to have one setting in particular - which I am missing at most compacts:
- to costumize the step of the zoom at turning on the camera!
Most if not all compacts start at full wide angle, but that is often too wide for "norma"l photography or for your personal preferency. So you always have to zoom in a little bit for a less wide angle.
And if you don't think about it, you are shooting 95% in a full wide angle where a less wide angle would be better.
The canon s90/95/100 has a control ring on front which I like for one reason: it holds the last setting, e.g. the step zoom.
Saleen1999: The problem with a 41mp camera is there is no cell phone company that is capable of allowing anyone to send such a high mp picture through picture mail. The phone would crash or it would take all night for it to go through. I have a huge problem trying to send an 8mp picture with my phone. If they keep this up, our cell phone bills will go up so high we won't be able to afford them because it takes a lot of bandwidth to send picture mail and the cell companies just don't have enough air space to accomplish this and if they buy more then guess who pays for it in the end? We the consumers do and I don't want to pay a penny more.
Aside from this, what are cell phone companies trying to accomplish in the long run by creating better camera phones??? Do they hope to accomplish beating out the compact cameras someday? I can't see that happening.
With the 808 you have a smartphone with a stable OS, with few but very useful apps - and you have a built-in camera which can replace a serious compact, which alone would cost you minimum 300 usd.
Handling also seems to be smooth and fast:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXyIw2HT8w
Damian D: Thanks everyone for some excellent comments and feedback.
I just wanted to clarify that the images we [Nokia] have captured thus far and any that you find on the net, were taken using prototype hardware with software which is not yet finalised. This is especially relevant with regards to low light which has not been optimised at all...yet. We are working actively on that area right now. It's extremely interesting to read the opinions relating to noise filtering and detail retention. Thank you.
best regards
Damian Dinning - Lead Program Manager, Imaging Experience - Nokia
For me the most important thing in video is:
STABILISATION!
Most clips from the average user are very jittery.
Dear Damien Dinning, you should use some of this awsome amount of pixels to create the first (or at least the best) built-in steadycam, if this is possible.