chadley_chad: Also Sergey, in an earlier post you say sigma owners defend any sigma camera despite its faults; and finish your 'analysis' of the camera and it's owners by summarising there can be no joy in a such an expensive system with its limitations. Like any high performance sports car owner who pays a fortune for what is in esense a car, and who also probably also spends the same amount again on maintance and repairs ... And has to put up with uncomfortable driving positions, poor gear changes, lack of refinement in some cases etc etc, they do it because of the joy the car delivers which completely overrides all the negatives. As I write my Porsche is in the garage 'again' and all my friends laugh ... but I ignore them all because I know their opinions mean absolutely nothing ... How can they coment on the lack of joy my car must bring when they've never owned one themselves!
As usual then, DP full of people with no experience giving opinions not based on fact. Please be quiet.
When I drive Lamborghini Murcielago, the speeds up to 150 mph are extremely uncomfortable. But above this speed, the car absolutely rocks! Driving above 200mph in a curve and the car is just glued to the road - what an amazing feeling! However, the maintenance is hell, a simple part exchange costs a plenty of money, it consumes way too much fuel, the taxes are ridiculous... All in all, there is only one thing this car excels at, and it's worth it! (I live in Germany, so you can go as fast as it gets)
Sigma is similar - the photography process is very basic and uncomfortable, however the results you can achieve in the areas it excels are second to none!
Cy Cheze: Foveon sensors have been under development for a long time, yet remain an unusual niche. Is it fair to say that the advantages are apparent only to pixel peepers, but don't stand out much at ordinary viewing scales, and that the costs offsets the advantage, even for persistent peepers? Is it essentially like the Concorde that competed, to no avail, against Airbus and Boeing?
That's a very interesting comparison! Some magazine named Foveon as one of the most disappointing technologies given the expectations that surrounded it while going public with X3. I think it is and will largely remain a niche sensor technology with many fans and opponents, which I find sad.
ljmac: The price goes down by more than two thirds and they say it's because of reduced sensor production costs? What a load of bull! They obviously couldn't sell any at the original asking price, and with Nikon releasing the D800, they realised they couldn't get away with claiming this was a 'cheap' medium format camera any longer.
If you ever sat in a purely sport-oriented Ferrari (not a luxurious one) such as Enzo, you might have noticed how modest and minimalist the interior is. The car is simply tuned for performance, not your comfort. The same can be said about SD1 - purely tuned to deliver Foveon quality with a modest, functionality-oriented body without redundant bells and whistles.
Do you know what are the costs of setting up a fab producing new technology? If their initial estimate was that they can only produce X-many new X3s in one cycle, while the costs of the fab was fixed, it had to translate into the final price. Now as they figured out how to produce more sensors from the same materials and their initial investments have returned from SD1 sales, they can afford to decrease the price, ramp up production and let the economy of scale work for them. They aren't SONY manufacturing sensors for everyone around, they have to bear costs of their unique technology themselves. It's like Lamborghini - each car is manufactured manually, hence the cost.
Fantastic news!!! My next Foveon camera is going to be SD1 Merrill alongside SD14 and SD15 :)))
And yes, I use also last-generation Nikon, but I am extremely frustrated whenever I zoom in the NEF file and see the sensor issues going haywire everywhere (unsharpness, low ISO noise etc.) which I never see in Foveon. Are people here so accustomed to Bayer that they don't see the problems it has even in the published D800 samples?